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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 03:01:09 (permalink)
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I think 5 or 6 screws but can't remember since I took my GPU apart for a WB installation in January.  It's really not that hard.  Would take a min or two for just swamping the slotters if that's all you're doing.  Just make sure you put the slotter in the way it came installed.
 
Take a look at this video to see what screws are removed on the bracket.  Again it's really a simple, unscrew the bracket screws only, remove bracket, install the new 2 slot bracket in the same spot and re-screw it back in place with the same screws from the previous bracket.  Done.

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You sure its this easy? I think something has to be removed in the card or the lip has to be bended?
Check out this thread https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx
 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 03:05:34 (permalink)
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You sure its this easy? I think something has to be removed in the card or the lip has to be bended?
Check out this thread https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx
 



Just watch the whole video of the waterblock installation for peace of mind.  Mind you you're only doing 1/10th of what they are doing in the video.
 
Just remember one screw has a nut so don't lose that and put it back together the same way while the rest are easy screw in or out and done.

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 03:07:06 (permalink)
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You sure its this easy? I think something has to be removed in the card or the lip has to be bended?
Check out this thread https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx
 



Just watch the whole video of the waterblock installation for peace of mind.  Mind you you're only doing 1/10th of what they are doing in the video.


Will do, thanks a lot for your support, im excited that i can vertically mount this one as well (hopefully). 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 06:47:18 (permalink)
ikeike - Read this before you purchase the 2-slot bracket from EVGA.
 
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Will doing this Void the 3 year warranty? I think so. 

 
No. 
 
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The only downside to this is that i will not mount vertically as the aircooled version is a 3 slot and my vertical mount in the case is a 2 slot.... That sux cause the aircooled version looks aesthetically more pleasing than the hybrid....cant have it all though....u win some lose some 


As GTXJackBauer mentioned, you can still vertical mount the FTW3 with tripple fan cooler. You have to swap it out with a 2 slot bracket. BUT it's not as simple as just unscrewing the old one and screwing in the new one!! I learned this the hard way.

In order to make the EVGA 2-slot bracket work on the 2.75-slot 3 fan FTW card, you have to trim off the top lip of the 2-slot bracket. You have to do this because even after you unscrew the 2.75-slot bracket, there is an additional metal plate behind it that is mounted to the black front plate of the GPU, that goes under the air cooler. This secondary metal plate gets in the way of the top lip of the 2-slot bracket, preventing you from installing it.

You could remove that secondary metal bracket, but in order to do so you'd have to completely remove the air cooler and front plate to access the 2 screws on the underside of the front plate. I found that a much simpler solution was to dremel off that top lip of the 2-slot bracket. This allowed me to properly install the GPU vertically. I ran this setup for a few weeks, issue free, before switching to the hybrid kit.

See pictures below...  

Pictures of the secondary plate, attached to the black plate that mounts under the stock air cooler:


 




Stock 2-slot bracket next to the dremeled one: (looks ugly but once installed you'd never see the dremeled part of it)
 

 
 

2080 ti FTW3 Ultra Installed vertically:





Current setup with hybrid kit (and some other setup changes like different CPU AIO, motherboard and h700i instead of h500):



 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 06:56:36 (permalink)
Thanks Snow, i thought i read this somewhere. I wouldnt wanna modify the gpu.
 
So once you flatten the lip or cut it off, is it as easy as unscrewing and screwing back on?
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 06:59:25 (permalink)
Yep! Once you remove the top lip of the 2-slot bracket it now sits perfectly flush and you simply screw in the 5 screws to secure it.
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 07:00:16 (permalink)
ez! thanks!!
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/04/02 14:25:08 (permalink)
Just know this could void your warranty if you modify any part of the original GPU but since it's modding the two slot bracket purchased separately, all should be fine.

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 17:09:39 (permalink)
hey Folks...
i did buy a Hybrid Kit for my 2080 Black... well the temps are lovely but this buzzing makes me sad... 
should i send it back to EVGA (RMA) or the best way if i wear a headphone with earplug?! 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 17:19:24 (permalink)
Most likely you’re going to get a replacement that could be worse or just a bit better.
There aren’t so many people that got lucky with a silent unit.
I ended up doing a custom loop to get it silent as much as possible

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 17:26:06 (permalink)
lovely.... :/
well i did send an email to EVGA... so we will see a few hours later...

if i can't get a better product of this otherwise i will go back to Gigabyte or Asus vga's.... that was my first time when chose an EVGA product (RTX 2080 Black)
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 17:26:54 (permalink)
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hey Folks...
i did buy a Hybrid Kit for my 2080 Black... well the temps are lovely but this buzzing makes me sad... 
should i send it back to EVGA (RMA) or the best way if i wear a headphone with earplug?! 
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Outside of RMA and a prayer, there are 2 potential solutions to help eliminate or at least reduce the pump noise. One is to open up the cooler and use a mini 4-pin to 4-pin PWM GPU fan cable and connect it to the motherboard or a fan controller in order to manually reduce the pump speed by undervolting it. The other option is to use a weak magnet placed over top of the pump which either slows the impeller or changes its position to alleviate some of the noise. 
 
The magnet trick actually works quite well provided you can find the right magnet and a way to mount it. If you use a magnet that is too strong you will just stop the impeller causing temps to rise. I use the magnet method with satisfactory results. If I was planning on using the hybrid cooler indefinitely and not replacing it with a full-cover block, I would not use the magnet method but instead would modify it to control the pump speed directly.
 
Here is a short example of what in my opinion would be the 'proper' way to do it:
 



 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 17:34:43 (permalink)
i did try both....
method #1:
i cant control the pump. maximus viii hero+ai suite.... if i plug it to the mobo and do a fan tuning the system cant see the plugged device. 

method #2:
magnet. i have to try this now somehow... What are the possible errors from use?!
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 18:27:43 (permalink)
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method #2:
magnet. i have to try this now somehow... What are the possible errors from use?!



I am just guessing here but I would assume that if anything it may reduce the lifespan of the pump..? Outside of that it's pretty obvious when you use a magnet that is too strong, you can watch the temps go up after the pump quiets down (in this case stops). Once you find a proper magnet & hot-spot on the pump the noise will fade but temps won't rise and that's where you would affix it in some way. You can test while your rig is on if you have the room in your case to do it, test at idle loads of course. EVGA would never endorse or recommend doing this either so try at your own risk. Start with very weak magnets and move up, mine is a little puck magnet about the diameter of the body of a pen. I got it off the side of our fridge , it's not very strong at all.


 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 19:02:06 (permalink)
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i did try both....
method #1:
i cant control the pump. maximus viii hero+ai suite.... if i plug it to the mobo and do a fan tuning the system cant see the plugged device. 

method #2:
magnet. i have to try this now somehow... What are the possible errors from use?!

Did you try multipal different fan connections on the motherboard?

Did you go into the bios and select monitor (I think it's called) and change the settings for that fan header? Read the label for the fan header you have it connected to. Usually settings for fan headers are dc/pwm/disable.. disable usually runs the fan at 100%. Try a setting you can fix a set speed for like 70-80%.

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/07 19:42:58 (permalink)
oops.. nope...
this maximus Viii hero has 1 pump header... i use it for CPU... any other channel fan header.. i think i cant change the header "type"...
i will check just in case...
or i have a maximus XI hero+9700k etc so.. i know this mobo has 2 pump header... lets try on it...
i did take a picture of the "pump"... i dont know what iam see... :/
Edit.
ahm.. btw this vga cooler has so "interesting" cable management ... ofc 2 fan can be controlled... 1x mosfet fan + 1x for the 120mm fan...


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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/08 05:24:04 (permalink)
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oops.. nope...
this maximus Viii hero has 1 pump header... i use it for CPU... any other channel fan header.. i think i cant change the header "type"...
i will check just in case...
or i have a maximus XI hero+9700k etc so.. i know this mobo has 2 pump header... lets try on it...
i did take a picture of the "pump"... i dont know what iam see... :/
Edit.
ahm.. btw this vga cooler has so "interesting" cable management ... ofc 2 fan can be controlled... 1x mosfet fan + 1x for the 120mm fan...




 


You shouldn't have to disassemble the pump in order to change out the cable. Check the video I posted it's a simple modification, remove one cable and add another. As for controlling the pump with mobo fan header, it should work no problem even if it's on a 3-pin non-PWM header. Go into your bios and check the fan/monitoring tab, change the relevant settings as AHowes alluded to.


 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/08 05:31:58 (permalink)
OK.. i will
now i did try the "magic magnetic" trick and working fine. no buzzing temps are the same... so...
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/08 05:36:21 (permalink)
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OK.. i will
now i did try the "magic magnetic" trick and working fine. no buzzing temps are the same... so...




Yeah it works surprisingly well, the only thing is figuring out how to affix the magnet to that spot without looking like crap, if you care about that. I ended up using a little black plastic cap that fit over the magnet, then just used adhesive putty to stick it to the shroud.


 
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/08 05:38:06 (permalink)
did u take a photo about it?! i really care where is the magnet exactly
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/05/08 06:58:24 (permalink)
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did u take a photo about it?! i really care where is the magnet exactly



I don't have a picture but I've marked pretty much exactly where mine is on my particular card. Give or take a couple millimeters:
 

 
I moved it around while listening with my ear right next to it and left it in the spot where it was most quiet. I will stress again though, that we have no idea what effect this is having on the pump and its potential lifespan. I personally don't think it'll cause issues but it's an important disclaimer to mention the risk regardless.

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/10/10 04:58:26 (permalink)
Happened to try the magnet trick with a neo whiteboard magnet outside the shroud.  Was able to easily stop the pump for a few seconds under load which quickly sends temps from around 50C to 75C.  Could find a point below the center of the pump that dramatically lowered the noise but quickly increased temps 3-5C under load, indicating that the pump was running slower.  Was not able to find a point that delivered a stable temp under load with decrease in noise.  YMMV. 
 
Since I'm already using the custom cable to MB header to control the pump speed, I went back to doing that.  Currently using 7.32V pump and 1000RPM fan at idle, controlled by MB system temp, which kicks up to 10.56V and 1800RPM at 35C system temp.  This seems to reliably lock the fan/pump at the low setting when not gaming, then kick up after a couple minutes in game with the card stabilizing around 50-55C.  There is a very faint but not obvious whine at the 7.32V pump setting, would prefer to use 6.48V which is silent but the pump would not start reliably at system boot.
 
Might be interesting to try some dynamat (non-metal backed), poster putty, duct seal or other damping material between the pump top and the shroud.
 
Just for the heck of it while I was in there I tried some 1/2" thick foam pipe insulation on the radiator hose, did a real clean job zip tieing in place, LOL. No definitive difference in temps, maybe it idled a half degree warmer and was half a degree cooler after heat soaking, but that's well within ambient variation which I was not specifically controlling for at the time.  Might try a bit of foam at the bottom of the radiator to shield it from the chipset heatsink which is right next to it in my setup.
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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/10/10 07:09:41 (permalink)
Hm, but if you place something on pump - you will obstruct airflow from vrm fan to 2nd vrm radiator and back exit...
My solution is to set starting voltage in bios and control pump voltage in software as system loads.

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Re: Installed EVGA Hybrid Cooler - Getting Buzzing 2019/10/11 08:36:08 (permalink)
So have the GPU mounted like a typical tower case with the radiator front mount.  Previously I had the hoses from the card going down then up to the sideways rad.  I spread the hoses so the hot side was going up-down above the back of the card and the cool side down-up below the front of the card.  I could be losing my mind, but I think it actually got quieter, there is a bit of a drop in the whine noise and a significant drop in the crickets noise.  7.32V on the pump is now very reasonably quiet, can't really audibly notice the pump above A12's at 1000rpm and VRM fan at 40%.  Still idles the same 26C.
 
(Removed the pipe insulation from my previous post.  The chipset heatsink is under the card but well away from the rad so I'm not going to worry about that.)
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