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Hi, do you guys think the z77 / ivy bride is enough to support these beasts or do I need to go for the 78/ sandy E? Right now these are pushing my i7 950 hard and Im only getting 95fps on heaven bench with cpu twmp at 66... And with ulta hd monitor.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 17:44:57
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Sandy E for the win!! get the regular x79 sli because you wont need all of the extra PCI-E slots the classy and ftw have, coupled with the 3930k @ 5ghz you will be on cloud nine.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 17:59:37
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Put it this way, if you put the card in a full x16 slot, then you never have to worry about having enough lanes or bandwidth for GTX690 or any single future PCIe 3.0 graphics card upgrade.
Some Z77's can have a single x16 (depending on configuration) while all X79's have two full x16's.
Its the boards that have multiple x8's that will eventually get in your way. Modern games at modern resolutions don't really show difference with early PCIe 3.0 cards, but who knows in a few years what new monitors you get into in which the resolution is so high that you may have benefited with more lanes from the get go.
The configuation doesn't really matter, just get a board where if you install one graphics card, you get x16 in it. Some Z77's will allow that with on card present, but when you use two cards, it defaults to dual x8's. In that case, X79 is better because you get two full x16's by default that don't change in configuration.
Just so you know, LGA1155 processors have 16 PCIe lanes distributed over whatever PCIe slots in use, whie LGA2011 has 40 PCIe lanes available. X79 is more future-proof in terms of getting more than you need now, but it is up to you.
Luckily for you, both platforms have quad-core options that cost and overclock to about the same frequencies, so it comes down to how much you want to spend on the board. Typical Z77 would be $100-150, while typical X79 is betwwen $225-$300.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 18:12:48
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I personally would not spend $2,000 on the latest and greatest consumer graphics cards only to put the poor things in effective 8x slots. Instead I would go with an X79 motherboard and Intel 3820 processor. The Intel 3820 has 40 PCI-E 3.0 lanes which is 24 over what the Ivy Bridge socket 1155 processors have. Grab yourself an x79 board that has two or more 16x slots directly connected to the CPU without any PEX chips or other stuff in the middle. Enable PCI-E 3.0 in the registry and then enjoy you cards knowing that the GPUs have as much bandwidth as possible available for use and minimal possible latency. Pricewise, the Intel 3820 and a middle-range motherboard should not cost that much more than a Z77 and Intel 3770K. You will pay more for the board but less for the CPU.
Best of luck with your build.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 18:15:36
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My Z77 ASUS has 2 16x 16x and both 3.0 PCIe with 2 more 8x's I might get Ivy bridge or a Sandy, don't know foresure yet. The MB I got is on the Bottom with the Link if you want to look at it. It was 244 something dollars with the 1155 socket in it. It can also handle other CPUs to.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 18:17:38
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So does the Z77 FTW, you DO get 16 X by using slots 2 and 4 http://www.evga.com/articles/00677/ Chipset and Bus The EVGA Z77 FTW uses the Intel Z77 Express Chipset. This chipset has native USB 3.0 and native SATA 6G support directly off the controller for the best performance, support and stability today. The EVGA Z77 FTW motherboard supports PCI-E 3.0 performance via a PLX 8747 PCI-E 3.0 certified bridge chip. This allows the EVGA Z77 FTW to populate all PCI-E 3.0 slots at the maximum bandwidth possible. The PCI-E lane configuration is as follows: - 1 Card: x16
- 2 Cards: x16 – x16 (Slot 2 & Slot 4)
- 3 Cards: x8 - x16 - x16
- 4 Cards: x8 - x16 - x8 - x8
Don't misunderstand not getting 16X duel slots by just using X79 Z77 FTW would be an ideal situation of you are coming from an older board and want to go with an Ivy bridge CPU. Granted its 10-15% faster than Sandybridge, It's still an option.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 18:23:30
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So does the Z77 FTW, you DO get 16 X by using slots 2 and 4
http://www.evga.com/articles/00677/
Chipset and Bus The EVGA Z77 FTW uses the Intel Z77 Express Chipset. This chipset has native USB 3.0 and native SATA 6G support directly off the controller for the best performance, support and stability today.
The EVGA Z77 FTW motherboard supports PCI-E 3.0 performance via a PLX 8747 PCI-E 3.0 certified bridge chip. This allows the EVGA Z77 FTW to populate all PCI-E 3.0 slots at the maximum bandwidth possible. The PCI-E lane configuration is as follows:
- 1 Card: x16
- 2 Cards: x16 – x16 (Slot 2 & Slot 4)
- 3 Cards: x8 - x16 - x16
- 4 Cards: x8 - x16 - x8 - x8
Don't misunderstand not getting 16X duel slots by just using X79
Mine is also the same but might be 16x by 16x and then 8x 8x withe the 16x's being 3.0 which i can't wait to get all my parts and be able to use my 680s in December hopefully in full 3.0 mode which is 10x faster than 2.0 I'd say study up on what the Motherboards have for futureproofing as much as possible. Me I got what was too much money, but the MB will last awhile and has SATAs to which is good, and always go over ppls feedback, u have to look at that for any Mb u get. If u can't get the feedback on 1 site then go to another like Newegg.com. I should tell you that their will probably always be a cpl minor problems when u set up ur new rig connecting everything. But as long as u can fix what could be wrong and won't happen again then u might have a good MB. But look at MBs probably from Newegg and see what features u have and what ur pocket size is for getting a good MB and always look at the feedback. What I did is look at the feedback from Newegg for what MB I was going to choose, then bought it from Amazon.com because they're cheaper, or will match the competitions price. GL finding a good MB whatever brand it is, and make sure there is plenty of 3.0 connections along with the 2.0 connectors you'll need for ur Mouse and Keyboard that might not be compliant with the 3.0 USBs yet.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 18:51:24
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Sadly, the Z77 FTW doesn't even exist yet :(
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:33:11
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Get an ASUS RIVE with a 3930k cpu and never look back. 
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:35:21
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I personally would not spend $2,000 on the latest and greatest consumer graphics cards only to put the poor things in effective 8x slots. Instead I would go with an X79 motherboard and Intel 3820 processor. The Intel 3820 has 40 PCI-E 3.0 lanes which is 24 over what the Ivy Bridge socket 1155 processors have. Grab yourself an x79 board that has two or more 16x slots directly connected to the CPU without any PEX chips or other stuff in the middle. Enable PCI-E 3.0 in the registry and then enjoy you cards knowing that the GPUs have as much bandwidth as possible available for use and minimal possible latency. Pricewise, the Intel 3820 and a middle-range motherboard should not cost that much more than a Z77 and Intel 3770K. You will pay more for the board but less for the CPU.
Best of luck with your build.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:35:36
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Thankyou all for your help. I guess its z77 ftw with ivy, I cant spend much more for a x79 and sandy e processors are expensive.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:38:24
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Thankyou all for your help. I guess its z77 ftw with ivy, I cant spend much more for a x79 and sandy e processors are expensive.
Wait a second. You want to run dual 690's, but can't afford to go x79 with a 3930k...? Odd. Go the x79 route and pick up 3 680's instead. Better combination.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:41:56
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Lol, two 690s and there's not much left to spend!
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 19:48:09
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If you are buying two 690's just go ahead and go x79.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 20:25:38
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I'll probably wished that I would've gone for that Intel board ur talking about, but I think it would've been too pricey for me and I never saw a Mb with more than 2 16x16x 3.0, so must've gotten' something HOT.
For the third slot, I was thinking of those boards that have the extra slot x16 slot set at x8. The board would have x16/x8/x16 for example for 40 total. Although in the case of the dual 690s, only two slots at x16 are needed unless one plans to run an additional card for PhysX, RAID, or something else. Like Kram said, the RIVE is a great choice overall. The RIV Formula is another good choice that has most of the same functionality as the RIVE and is less expensive. Even a board like the Intel DX79SI can do x16/x8/x16 and is available for $265. The reviews I have read indicated that this board is a decent overclocker. There are quite a few choices out there to consider in the x79 realm.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/18 22:08:24
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warrior10
I'll probably wished that I would've gone for that Intel board ur talking about, but I think it would've been too pricey for me and I never saw a Mb with more than 2 16x16x 3.0, so must've gotten' something HOT.
For the third slot, I was thinking of those boards that have the extra slot x16 slot set at x8. The board would have x16/x8/x16 for example for 40 total. Although in the case of the dual 690s, only two slots at x16 are needed unless one plans to run an additional card for PhysX, RAID, or something else. Like Kram said, the RIVE is a great choice overall. The RIV Formula is another good choice that has most of the same functionality as the RIVE and is less expensive. Even a board like the Intel DX79SI can do x16/x8/x16 and is available for $265. The reviews I have read indicated that this board is a decent overclocker. There are quite a few choices out there to consider in the x79 realm.
Yeah I just got My ASUS Z77 as i have it on the link below, and has all the nice overclocking and Turbo boost on it with Flash BIOS which seems good. My MB was I think 274 dollars or lesss since I bought it from Amazon, but I checked a lot of ppls feedback and of course there are some ppl that have had problems either RMA'd the MB or learned how to fix the problems, and has 4 Eggs out of 5. It's the P877-v Deluxe 1155 Socket, so I can't wait to get more of my computer built. Bad thing is I won't probably be able to get my Step-up 680s for at least 4 months, but doesn't bother me that much as I have a lot of building to do, though i'd love to see how they are on my current computer. But I have ptience and the 680s may not come til' Christmas to since i'm at the high 700s Ques.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 04:57:19
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Ok, so I have a ivy bridge 3770K thats unused and im waiting for the motherboard, 2X GTX 690 and a revo 3 X2 (raid SSD) and now after all your advice I am considering the x79 rampage extreme, but is it better to return the 3770k and go for the sandy bridge E processor? or will the 3770K be compatible with the rampage extreme and handle the 2 GTX 690 with a revo 3 X2 (240GB raid SSD)? OR should I still wait for the Z77 FTW?
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 06:33:43
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X79 is LGA 2011
Z77 is LGA 1155
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 08:41:33
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Warrior: that asus z77 board is 8x/8x when in sli mode. not 16/16.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 09:19:10
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me, I'd sell one of or both 690s and get.... 3 x 680's or add 2nd 690 later, after you have mobo and proc that will hold its own and last a couple years.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 09:55:48
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Ok, so I have a ivy bridge 3770K thats unused and im waiting for the motherboard, 2X GTX 690 and a revo 3 X2 (raid SSD) and now after all your advice I am considering the x79 rampage extreme, but is it better to return the 3770k and go for the sandy bridge E processor? or will the 3770K be compatible with the rampage extreme and handle the 2 GTX 690 with a revo 3 X2 (240GB raid SSD)? OR should I still wait for the Z77 FTW?
You certainly won't be disappointed with the 3770K and a Z77 board... though if you are still within return timeframe I'd pick up a Rampage IV Extreme and a 3930k. Just my two cents... the board is fabulous in every regard.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 16:38:15
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Yeah I just got My ASUS Z77 as i have it on the link below, and has all the nice overclocking and Turbo boost on it with Flash BIOS which seems good. My MB was I think 274 dollars or lesss since I bought it from Amazon, but I checked a lot of ppls feedback and of course there are some ppl that have had problems either RMA'd the MB or learned how to fix the problems, and has 4 Eggs out of 5. It's the P877-v Deluxe 1155 Socket, so I can't wait to get more of my computer built.
Bad thing is I won't probably be able to get my Step-up 680s for at least 4 months, but doesn't bother me that much as I have a lot of building to do, though i'd love to see how they are on my current computer. But I have ptience and the 680s may not come til' Christmas to since i'm at the high 700s Ques.
I think you made a good choice for the Asus Z77 board as Asus appears to be working hard on improving overclocking support for their Z77 boards similar to what they have done for their x79 boards. Here is a good thread to look at for the Z77 boards: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280418-ASUS-Z77-Motherboards-Official-Support-Thread
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/19 16:45:43
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If you are going quad sli, I'd seriously consider the available PCIe slots you need on the smaller Z77 boards?...doesn't leave much for sound cards, raid cards and maybe a PCIe slot for a PCIe SSD
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 06:58:03
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I read up on the x79 compatibility of the PCIE 3.0 with the drivers of the gtx 690 in quad SLI. It seems that the drivers disable the native PCIE 3.0 on the motherboard and that it is only available in Ivy bridge Z77. Man this is so frustrating.... I was just about to get a x79 and a 3930K processor too.... Should I go for it and wait for the updated drivers? do the hack where you edit the registry to manually enable PCIE 3.0 on the x79 or wait for the Z77 FTW?.... thanks
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 07:21:00
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Clearly you need X89 <g> Some are buying 3770's with the intention of replacing later with newer processors.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 11:22:45
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Rampage Extreme IV & 3960x.............
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 12:13:22
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Is it me or should intel release a new CPU that is not a core i7. I know the tick, tock, but all 3 generation of core cpus are almost identical. More like tick,tick,tick... Gues we can thank AMD for that
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 12:20:06
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anlicai
I read up on the x79 compatibility of the PCIE 3.0 with the drivers of the gtx 690 in quad SLI. It seems that the drivers disable the native PCIE 3.0 on the motherboard and that it is only available in Ivy bridge Z77. Man this is so frustrating.... I was just about to get a x79 and a 3930K processor too.... Should I go for it and wait for the updated drivers? do the hack where you edit the registry to manually enable PCIE 3.0 on the x79 or wait for the Z77 FTW?.... thanks
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 15:08:22
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index.php?showtopic=226569&st=60 Im not sure if it works with gtx 690 but the nvidia drivers have issues with pci e 3.0 with gtx 680s and the x79 chipset?... Although there is a modification you can do to the registry that can enable pcie 3.0 manually.
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Re:Ideal motherboard/cpu combo for gtx 690 quad sli?
2012/05/21 15:18:42
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Sorry here is the link: forums.nvidia.com/ index.php?showtopic=226569&st=60
post edited by anlicai - 2012/05/21 15:20:43
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