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I don't know what it is but I can't even overclock my Intel Core i7 860 2.80 GHz CPU with EVGA P55 FTW motherboard past stock speeds, whatever I do, whatever voltages I set it to it just doesn't boot. If I go too high I get a d0 error code, if it isn't that it's some f6 error, if it isn't that then it's windows starting the splash screen and simply sitting there. I've come to terms with the fact that I might not be able to get a 4.0 GHz overclock and I'm perfectly content with that but I just can't believe I can't even get a 3.0 GHz overclock. Is this even possible? Could my CPU be THAT bad? I don't know if anyone can help me or not but I've looked at numerous guides and followed them all with no luck. This is a random set of values I tried for the hell of it; Hopefully this may help diagnose the problem? Anyway my PC specs are as follows; Motherboard: EVGA P55 FTW CPU: Intel i7 860 2.80 GHz GPU: EVGA GTX 260 RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR3 XMS 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24, 1.65V Powersupply: Corsair 750W Any help would be greatly appreciated! EDIT: Pictures are a little blurry, CPU VCORE was 1.375 somewhere around that area. VTT was 1.2, if you guys need anything else lemme' know!
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/01 20:24:16
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Well here's one thing I noticed off the bat. Your RAM timings are set to be extremely tight. Manually set them to what your RAM is supposed to be running at - 9 tCl, 9 tRCD, 9 tRP, and 24 tRAS. Then try overclocking again. DRAM Voltage should also be manually set to 1.65V.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/01 20:29:20
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When I set the 9 in those slots it still has the 7 in parenthesis so it looks like 9 (7) is that normal? I'm getting an 6F error when I tried booting up, any idea what that is? I'll try booting up with 9 (7) in a second.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/01 20:43:58
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Yeah. Just save it and quit BIOS. The parentheses indicate the previous value for your RAM timings. Hopefully when you do this, and have your DRAM voltage set manually, you should have no further problems.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/01 20:50:04
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I set it all as such, RAM voltage was set to 1.65. CPU core 3.25 (something like that lol) VTT: 1.4 (I also tried 1.2) BCLK was 21 x 200 I tried the RAM at 1600 MHz and a lower speed and the end result has been the same! 6F!!!!!! This post code is driving me mad, what does it mean?! Are there other values I should be setting manually that are actually on auto? Which do you think should be manually entered off the top of your head? So many options, so many possibilities, so darn confusing. I appreciate the help by the way, it means a lot!
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/01 21:07:10
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Of course! Let's see... can you at least boot with Auto VCore, Auto VTT, and stock frequencies? If so, then we'll take this one step at a time. Some nice arbitrary values for a mild overclock to say, 3.4 ghz, would be 1.25 VCore, 1.25VTT, and 160*21. You could try that, and see if it works for you. Any higher, and you'll need to be overclocking on your own. Miahallen has a great guide stickied here in the P55 forums that you should definitely read over. You'll want to read the one on overclocking Lynnfield processors.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 05:05:04
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Ill be sure to try it when I get home, I've seen a lot of guides of the topic. Including the one on that techreaction website. Didn't seem to work, that is when I first got the d0 error which seems to be a memory error. I fixed that and everytime I try and overclock rather high it doesn't boot and has the 6F error code. I tried booting with a lower overclock but it then simply started the windows splash screen and didn't move. I didn't try your settings though, when I'm editing the RAM frequency do I need to keep it the target frequency at 1600 MHz? Does it matter what speed I boot with or will it work as long as it is lower than the rated 1600 MHz? Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions. <3
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 05:07:01
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It's fine! You should try to keep your RAM speed at its rated speed or lower. If it is in fact a good kit of memory that you have, you should be able to run it at its rated timings and voltage with no problem at all. If we still can't get this to work, I'm going to suggest that we run Memtest to see if one or both of your sticks are bad.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 05:12:31
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I have Corsair XMS3 sticks, 2 x 4GB running in dual channel. I actually have 8GB of RAM total but I removed the sticks because thy are three different types. Two are corsair, one is crucial and one is OCZ (I do a lot of video editing and rendering so RAM is big for me lol).
But yeah I'll definitely try it as soon as I get home if it doesn't work we'll run the memtest as you said.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 08:56:03
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 11:10:14
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I did my overclock in accordance to those guides, maybe there are other elements in the BIOS that I need to disable? All C-States I've disabled so it isn't that, I don't remember the exact name but it's a couple slots above the CPU Vcore settings. I'll try and get the exact name when I get home, 20 more minutes! A better question to ask though is which options you guys left default or actually enabled/disabled, I have the latest BIOS so I'm not sure what you guys are running so I may have a couple of extra options maybe?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 12:54:52
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Alright I tried it out and no go, I tried Dummy OC which got me to 3.3 GHz overclock. It seems like everything I try doesn't work. I wanted to ask you guys, do I touch things like PCH, CPU PLL, CPU PWR Frequency, VTT PWR Frequency, DDR PWR Frequency, PCI-E frequency settings, QPI Frequency selection, MCH Strap? Also what about VDroop on/off and hyperthreading on/off?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 13:28:42
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Hyperthreading you keep on. That allows you to use 8 threads with 4 cores on your i7. Your Vdroop option should be set to "Without Vdroop" for best results. The rest of that stuff taht you're talking about, I leave on Auto; I've only tweaked my Vcore and my VTT voltages. At this point, I'm wondering if it's your RAM that's the problem here. Are you familiar with how to run Memtest?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 14:16:23
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No, I've never ran Memtest but I'll do some google researching, at this time I enabled Dummy Overclock with 6GB of RAM all set to 9-9-9-24. 2 x 4GB of the Corsair and 1 x 2GB of the Crucial. EDIT: Upon researching I've stumbled across a couple download links that lead me to different programs, if you have a link for Memtest I would really appreciate. Any pointers or tips would also be of great help.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 15:00:00
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Run only your two Corsair sticks for the best amount of stability. Things usually don't end well for stability when you're mixing and matching vendors on the same board. And you're using the two Corsair sticks in the two gray slots, correct? The link for Memtest86+ is here: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso Download the pre-compiled ISO, and burn the the ISO to a disc so that you can boot off of it. Plop that disc into your disc drive, restart, then boot of of the disc. Preferably, have Memtest run overnight or while you're at work so that it gets several good passes in. If it shows up with no errors, then we'll continue from there. Otherwise, RMA time for your memory. Before we even do that actually, see if you can't overclock with just one stick of memory in your rig. Put just stick total into the gray slot closest to the CPU socket, and try overclocking. See how that works.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 15:25:58
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I'm at work right now but I found an .exe for memtest that I think is the right program, when I start it, it asks me to enter the amount of memory I wan to test . I threw in 2000mb I did it all fairly quick since I had to go to work. I'm currently at work so I'll try and test everythin when I get home. Hopefully it is just a memory issue and not my CPU just being genuinely bad.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 15:56:02
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It's best to run it booted off of a CD instead of in Windows. That way, all of your RAM will be tested, and the RAM that would normally be consumed by Windows would be looked over as well.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 16:50:32
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I'm at work right now but I found an .exe for memtest that I think is the right program, when I start it, it asks me to enter the amount of memory I wan to test . I threw in 2000mb I did it all fairly quick since I had to go to work. I'm currently at work so I'll try and test everythin when I get home. Hopefully it is just a memory issue and not my CPU just being genuinely bad.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 16:52:25
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Weird double post but understood, I've never downloaded an iso file onto a disc. Do I simply burn it on the disc and throw the disc in when I first start the computer?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 16:53:54
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Weird double post but understood, I've never downloaded an iso file onto a disc. Do I simply burn it on the disc and throw the disc in when I first start the computer?
EDIT: wow again, I guess my iPhone doesn't like the evga forums :x
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 17:27:23
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/02 21:49:37
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I got it all downloaded, it's really late so I won't be able to do things tonight. First thing tomorrow after class I'll get all of this set, I appreciate the help once again! I hope all goes well.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 20:45:32
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Alright well I didn't run the memtest but I tried overclocking with one stick and managed to get a different error code other than 6F I got a 2C. This post code is in the manual but I don't know what it means exactly but I'm getting better results with just having this one stick of ram in lol. Still having some trouble booting up so I'll continue playing with it but I also noticed this ram is rated for 1.80v and I kept putting in 1.65 maybe that was the problem?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 20:53:33
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Alright well I didn't run the memtest but I tried overclocking with one stick and managed to get a different error code other than 6F I got a 2C. This post code is in the manual but I don't know what it means exactly but I'm getting better results with just having this one stick of ram in lol. Still having some trouble booting up so I'll continue playing with it but I also noticed this ram is rated for 1.80v and I kept putting in 1.65 maybe that was the problem?
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 21:24:11
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Not sure if this means anything but when I try and overclock with certain settings it looks like it's goin to work, it then stalls and the three beeps repeat. It continues this cycle and won't boot into windows but my monitor recognizes a signal (it turns off if it doesn't).
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 21:30:38
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1.8v RAM is not right for that board. That's probably your problem as it's not meant to run any higher than 1.65v RAM. That doesn't mean you couldn't try to set the voltage to that (not sure if it actually goes that high), but trying to run RAM that wants 1.8v stock is definitely going to be a problem.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 21:59:00
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Well there's your problem! Flynion is absolutely correct. You cannot run those sticks at their rated speeds and voltage, because your RAM can't run at a voltage that low! 1.65V is the maximum RAM voltage that you should be running through a P55 board; DDR3 from the previous generation that runs from 1.8V-2.1V is not compatible with P55 boards. You'll need sticks that can run at 1.65V or under.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 22:08:15
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 22:13:20
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It will indeed work, according to EVGA's RAM compatibility list: http://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/ The one EVGA has listed is F3-12800CL7D- 4GBRH. The one you have chosen is F3-12800CL7D- 8GBRH, denoting it as the 8GB variant of its compatible cousin. It fits all the specs required of P55 RAM, so it will work. Just remember, when you get it, to manually set the voltage to 1.6V (what this kit is rated for), and your timings to 7-8-7-24. Edit for your edit: Either of those three kits will work just fine! My little analysis is for the first one you linked.
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Re:I just can't do it.
2011/05/03 22:16:44
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Overall which of the three do you think will give me the best bang for my buck? I'm leaning towards my first choice (kind of because they're black LOL) but then again the ones listed on Ebay aren't bad either. For $90 it's pretty solid in my opinion, I'm just very undecisive at this point because I'm worried that even if I get this new RAM I'll STILL have no luck overclocking this thing. Paranoia for the loss. :/ EDIT: Upon further inspection the ones listed on Ebay aren't exactly designed for the P55 chipset, in which case I guess I'll just go with the black ones. I really hope the overclock is possibly after this. :/
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