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I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot

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2022/06/07 20:49:33 (permalink)
I am running a dual RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING set up with 6 displays. The main gaming/rendering monitor runs on the primary GPU and the other displays are all connected to the secondary GPU and the motherboards Igpu.
 
I recently had a BSoD loop caused by nvlddmkm.sys It created a boot crash loop that not even windows recovery could fix. I ended up having to remove both my GPUs and boot into safe mode. I was then able to uninstall all NVidia software and drivers, reassemble everything and boot normally.
 
The problem now is that every time I reboot the PC the monitors attached to the second GPU do not turn on. Windows and Nvidia control panel see that they are there but they are listed as Generic monitors with all options grayed out. I go into Device Manager and manually disable then enable the GPU and everything works then perfectly. The GPU functions normally the entire time, all rendering software sees and uses it, games will even use it as a physicx accelerator, heck even excavator sees and uses it. But it will not output any video to the displays until being disabled/reenabled.
 
Both GPUs work normally by themselves but as soon as they are both installed this occurs.
 
I have the latest drivers, firmware, and all updates installed. I'm not sure what triggered the original BSoD but I suspect it was a windows or Nvidia update that went off on its own. (it has worked perfectly for over two months)

Any help or ideas would be great, I have tried everything I can think of. I really DON'T want to have to do a full windows reinstall so I'm hoping someone has a better solution.
 
The specific cards are:
24G-P5-3987-KR (Primary)
24G-P5-3987-RX (Secondary)
 
PSU:
220-GP-1600-X1
EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G+
 
Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200
 
CPU:
Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core
 
 
 
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    Sajin
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/08 01:32:26 (permalink)
    Have you tried running display driver uninstaller to clean out your current drivers, and then install clean with the latest drivers afterwards? If no, try that.
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/08 11:01:54 (permalink)
    Sounds like a pretty funky issue. Just a few thoughts. Good luck….

    Have you tried switching the primary and secondary card PCIE slot order on the mobo just to see if you can get signal to those displays? Worth a try for ****s and giggles for some kind of hardware conflict

    Do you have this issue on regular boot or just reboot or all circumstances?

    Have you tried eliminating the simultaneous use of iGPU and discrete gpu?

    Did you do any mb or gpu bios flashes recently?

    Do you have any windows rollbacks available from the approx time the problem began? (Maybe indicator of windows update causing an obscure display issue ?)
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/08 22:52:52 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Have you tried running display driver uninstaller to clean out your current drivers, and then install clean with the latest drivers afterwards? If no, try that.


    I have not tried that, ill give it a whirl and see if it helps.
     
    redteamgo
    Sounds like a pretty funky issue. Just a few thoughts. Good luck….

    Have you tried switching the primary and secondary card PCIE slot order on the mobo just to see if you can get signal to those displays? Worth a try for ****s and giggles for some kind of hardware conflict

    Do you have this issue on regular boot or just reboot or all circumstances?

    Have you tried eliminating the simultaneous use of iGPU and discrete gpu?

    Did you do any mb or gpu bios flashes recently?

    Do you have any windows rollbacks available from the approx time the problem began? (Maybe indicator of windows update causing an obscure display issue ?)

    I have not tried physically reversing the ports the cards are connected to. Not a bad idea.
    It happens any time the computer is "shut down" sleep/hibernate do not cause the problem. Only complete reboots and power downs. 
    I DID try the elimination of the IGPU and it still happens. (Only when BOTH RTX cards are connected) 
    I did update the bios on both cards AFTER this started as an attempt to solve the problem but it persists with the new bios. MB bios is up to date.
    There are several system restore points available going back almost 4 months, but they ALL fail to apply and revert to nthis broken state. (I suspect it is a windows problem but it was triggered by nvlddmkm.sys which is part of the Nvidia Driver software)
     
    Its a very strange glitch.
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/18 14:42:14 (permalink)
    In retrospect, it appears my Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING motherboard was simply dying. After trying all of the above suggestions with no improvement, I even did a fresh windows install and the bug persisted. 
     
    After deciding to just live with it, 3 days later the mother board just died, no errors, no post, nothing, it just wont power on. Pretty sad seeing it is less than a year old.
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/18 16:14:28 (permalink)
    ocstagetech
    In retrospect, it appears my Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING motherboard was simply dying. After trying all of the above suggestions with no improvement, I even did a fresh windows install and the bug persisted. 
     
    After deciding to just live with it, 3 days later the mother board just died, no errors, no post, nothing, it just wont power on. Pretty sad seeing it is less than a year old.


    How rude of it !
    Send it to the Moon, or ASUS ...
     
    post edited by cotter32 - 2022/06/18 16:29:31
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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/24 08:25:58 (permalink)
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    I am running a dual RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING set up with 6 displays. The main gaming/rendering monitor runs on the primary GPU and the other displays are all connected to the secondary GPU and the motherboards Igpu.
     
    I recently had a BSoD loop caused by nvlddmkm.sys It created a boot crash loop that not even windows recovery could fix. I ended up having to remove both my GPUs and boot into safe mode. I was then able to uninstall all NVidia software and drivers, reassemble everything and boot normally.
     
    The problem now is that every time I reboot the PC the monitors attached to the second GPU do not turn on. Windows and Nvidia control panel see that they are there but they are listed as Generic monitors with all options grayed out. I go into Device Manager and manually disable then enable the GPU and everything works then perfectly. The GPU functions normally the entire time, all rendering software sees and uses it, games will even use it as a physicx accelerator, heck even excavator sees and uses it. But it will not output any video to the displays until being disabled/reenabled.
     
    Both GPUs work normally by themselves but as soon as they are both installed this occurs.
     
    I have the latest drivers, firmware, and all updates installed. I'm not sure what triggered the original BSoD but I suspect it was a windows or Nvidia update that went off on its own. (it has worked perfectly for over two months)

    Any help or ideas would be great, I have tried everything I can think of. I really DON'T want to have to do a full windows reinstall so I'm hoping someone has a better solution.
     
    The specific cards are:
    24G-P5-3987-KR (Primary)
    24G-P5-3987-RX (Secondary)
     
    PSU:
    220-GP-1600-X1
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G+

    Motherboard:
    Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200
     
    CPU:
    Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core
     
     
     




    Sorry but i have to point out your motherboard unfortunately, you experiencing in my opinion a lack of power from the PCI-E slot and make those BSOD or failed to initiate properly your second RTX 3090.  You should ask Asus Engineers they might have a way to make it work... 

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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/06/24 08:54:29 (permalink)
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    I am running a dual RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING set up with 6 displays. The main gaming/rendering monitor runs on the primary GPU and the other displays are all connected to the secondary GPU and the motherboards Igpu.
     
    I recently had a BSoD loop caused by nvlddmkm.sys It created a boot crash loop that not even windows recovery could fix. I ended up having to remove both my GPUs and boot into safe mode. I was then able to uninstall all NVidia software and drivers, reassemble everything and boot normally.
     
    The problem now is that every time I reboot the PC the monitors attached to the second GPU do not turn on. Windows and Nvidia control panel see that they are there but they are listed as Generic monitors with all options grayed out. I go into Device Manager and manually disable then enable the GPU and everything works then perfectly. The GPU functions normally the entire time, all rendering software sees and uses it, games will even use it as a physicx accelerator, heck even excavator sees and uses it. But it will not output any video to the displays until being disabled/reenabled.
     
    Both GPUs work normally by themselves but as soon as they are both installed this occurs.
     
    I have the latest drivers, firmware, and all updates installed. I'm not sure what triggered the original BSoD but I suspect it was a windows or Nvidia update that went off on its own. (it has worked perfectly for over two months)

    Any help or ideas would be great, I have tried everything I can think of. I really DON'T want to have to do a full windows reinstall so I'm hoping someone has a better solution.
     
    The specific cards are:
    24G-P5-3987-KR (Primary)
    24G-P5-3987-RX (Secondary)
     
    PSU:
    220-GP-1600-X1
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G+

    Motherboard:
    Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200
     
    CPU:
    Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core
     
     
     




    Sorry but i have to point out your motherboard unfortunately, you experiencing in my opinion a lack of power from the PCI-E slot and make those BSOD or failed to initiate properly your second RTX 3090.  You should ask Asus Engineers they might have a way to make it work... 


    Nice catch!

    Evga back when made and sold a product to fix this issue called the power boost.

    https://www.evga.com/arti...hive/00600/default.asp

    Can grab one cheap from amazon. https://www.amazon.com/EV...2Caps%2C162&sr=8-3

    Try that or maybe better a more expensive motherboard with an extra pcie power connector.. I know my Asus z690 Extreme uses a 6 pin pcie cable for pcie power.. other boards may just use a 4 pin molex connector for it.
    post edited by AHowes - 2022/06/24 09:00:56

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    Re: I have to Disable then reenable my GPU after every reboot 2022/07/18 23:11:36 (permalink)
    TLDR Clean install of windows with a full format fixed the problem.

    Thanks for the suggestions, unfortunately none of them worked. 
    The motherboard actually did end up dying and being replaced by ASUS under warrantee, however the problem continued with the new Mother Board.
     
    Although it is a good suggestion to look into, for the record ASUS ROG Strix boards can deliver 90+ watts to all PCIe slots simultaneously with no problem so, its not a power issue. 

    After the problem continued to the new motherboard, and display driver uninstaller followed by a clean driver install did not fix it, I tried moving to windows 11, and it continued.
     
    I finally broke down and formatted the hard drive and did a clean install of windows 11. Boom bug is fixed. I can only assume that SOMETHING was corrupted within windows that was not detectable by the windows diagnostics, and not fixable by a clean driver install.
     
    So on the off chance anyone else has the "monitors wont turn on" bug, clean windows install is your friend.
     
    Now its just on to re downloading 4Tb worth of games. 
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