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I was lucky enough to score a Hybrid Kit for my 3090 FTW3 Ultra yesterday and have a number of questions that I can't seem to find answers to in documentation or other posts/forums. I've had EVGA cards for many generations but never had a hybrid/installed a kit. If anyone with more experience could help me out with these, it would be most appreciated! - After I install the kit, what will the card's BIOS situation be? Should I install the Hybrid XOC bios from Jacob's XOC thread?
- How will X1 handle the adapted card?
- I use iCUE to control my H115i Plat and a Commander Pro to control a load of LL120's (as well as a combination of fan hubs and lighting nodes). Would it be possible to use Corsair ML120 RGB's on the hybrid kit's radiator, plug the fan headers into the card as per the installation instructions, and plug the RGB leads from the fans into a Node to control the RGBz in iCUE?
Update: eg1122 confirmed that this is how they have their hybrid AIO configured, and this is how I plan to configure mine once I get my kit installed. - I control my H115i's rad fan curves based on coolant temp rather than CPU temp. Does anyone know if the hybrid's coolant temp would be available in iCUE as a sensor to create curves from? If so, then I would just want to control the hybrid's rad fans entirely with iCUE - curves + RGB. That would be awesome but might be a stretch.
Update: the hybrid GPU's AIO coolant temp is NOT available in iCUE, so this does not seem to be possible. Thanks to eg1122 for confirming this. - Alternatively, is it possible to create curves in PX1 based on the gpu AIO's coolant temp instead of the gpu temp?
Update: eg1122 confirmed that it is NOT possible to create curves in X1 based on coolant temp - only based on GPU temp.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 07:32:42
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still waiting on queue. Does the water block come with pre-coating thermal grease?
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 14:44:48
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Hi same here. Now my card is hybrid cooler but FTW3 bios. It seems that there is no clear answer yet. And I noticed that the performance of these two fans on radiator are strange. They barely run and just leave GPU temp go above 60C and a Hot radiator.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 14:48:11
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I sure would love it if the hybrid kit's AIO coolant reading was available to iCUE to create a curve [in iCUE] based on it. I asked someone on reddit who just got the xc3 hybrid if they can see the GPU AIO coolant temp in icue and will report back here with the answer. Edit: my kit will be here on Thursday so I'll do some science then and will keep the OP updated with whatever I manage figure out.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 14:56:20
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Just checked, no coolant temp just gpu temp.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 15:01:39
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eg1122 Just checked, no coolant temp just gpu temp.
Booooo. Thanks a lot for checking and posting. Guess it'll all just have to go through PX1 with the included fans. I think using iCUE to create curves based on the GPU temp could cause erratic spin ups / spin downs which would be pretty irritating (I'm very finicky). Maybe it wouldn't be as bad as doing that for a CPU, though...
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 15:03:04
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CPU: Intel i9-11900K Cooling: Corsair iCue H150i RGB Pro XT Fans: 6x Corsair LL120, 4x Corsair ML120 RGB (Capellix), 4x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB Mother Board: MSI MEG Z590 Ace GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid RAM: 4x 8GB CORSAIR Vengeance @XMP 3600mhz SSDs(NVME): 1x WD Black SN850 1TB, 1x WD Black SN750 1TB, 1x WD Blue SN550 2TB Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X3 Case: Corsair Crystal Series 680x PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G2 Monitor: Asus Strix XG32VQ (144hz) Keyboard: Corsair K100 - Cherry MX Mouse: Logitech MX Master OS: Windows 10 pro 64bit
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 15:31:11
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eg1122 I am using ml120s in push pull on it. Fans connected to gpu and rgb to icue node.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mMTLJayW2pmoebq49
Thanks a lot, this is super helpful. Especially appreciate the photos. I'll update the OP with this info, it's answering my third bullet/question. Just to be sure - so you use PX1 to control the curve for the ML120's, and iCUE to control their lighting?
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 15:31:56
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eg1122 I am using ml120s in push pull on it. Fans connected to gpu and rgb to icue node.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mMTLJayW2pmoebq49
Thanks a lot, this is super helpful. Especially appreciate the photos. I'll update the OP with this info, it's answering my third bullet/question. Just to be sure - so you use PX1 to control the curve for the ML120's, and iCUE to control their lighting?
Yes, the curve is set to gpu temp in PX1...no coolant temp options.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 18:13:43
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eg1122 I am using ml120s in push pull on it. Fans connected to gpu and rgb to icue node.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mMTLJayW2pmoebq49
Hi there what do you mean by push pull sorry for newbie question. I only know term or exhaust and intake for fans. So does the fan set up in the kit as Intake taking air in or exhaust taking air out? Thanks.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 18:23:03
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eg1122 I am using ml120s in push pull on it. Fans connected to gpu and rgb to icue node.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mMTLJayW2pmoebq49
Hi there what do you mean by push pull sorry for newbie question. I only know term or exhaust and intake for fans. So does the fan set up in the kit as Intake taking air in or exhaust taking air out? Thanks.
Push-pull refers to a radiator sandwiched between 2 sets of fans blowing air in the same direction. See the pictures. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vp3tvk1xtXKvPzUZ7
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/11 18:29:19
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eg1122 I am using ml120s in push pull on it. Fans connected to gpu and rgb to icue node.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mMTLJayW2pmoebq49
Hi there what do you mean by push pull sorry for newbie question. I only know term or exhaust and intake for fans. So does the fan set up in the kit as Intake taking air in or exhaust taking air out? Thanks.
Push-pull refers to a radiator sandwiched between 2 sets of fans blowing air in the same direction. See the pictures.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vp3tvk1xtXKvPzUZ7
Oh okay I think I get it so they all are pushing out air all 4 fans and radiator sandwich between them. Cool thanks!
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 14:55:01
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Did you find out if we need to change from the FTW3 Air XOC Beta Bios to the FTW3 Hybrid XOC Beta Bios? My hybrid kit comes tomorrow hopefully and I'm still not sure. I was told that precision would tell it to update the bios but that makes no sense because as far as precision is concerned, it's the same hardware.. I can't think of a reason why it would suddenly know I've added the hybrid kit. Hmmmm
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 16:57:34
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green4191 Did you find out if we need to change from the FTW3 Air XOC Beta Bios to the FTW3 Hybrid XOC Beta Bios? My hybrid kit comes tomorrow hopefully and I'm still not sure. I was told that precision would tell it to update the bios but that makes no sense because as far as precision is concerned, it's the same hardware.. I can't think of a reason why it would suddenly know I've added the hybrid kit. Hmmmm
I haven't found a conclusive or official answer, but KingEngineRevUp posted in his awesome thread that he did flash the XOC one to his converted card (pretty sure he meant that he flashed the Hybrid XOC Bios to his card). I'm not sure if or how anything changes there with today's release of a new version of PX1 v1.1.3.0 and the new firmwares It really would be awesome if EVGA had info on this in the instructions or on the hybrid kit page. That + the VRM heatsink question are some pretty significant loose ends for the kit IMO. I tweeted the BIOS question to Jacob but he hasn't responded yet (which is understandable, he has been on full 24/7 blast on twitter).
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 17:16:28
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Yeah I've not gotten a solid answer and aside from myself I've seen it asked a ton of times. Even on evga weekly. When I did the precision update today it did flash my bios for whatever reason but I see no difference in power draw or 3d mark scores in any test. I did a restart and I did a shutdown and unplugged power for awhile. No change i can see. I may just flash it to the hybrid bios and see what the power draw acts like. I'm assuming you don't have any pump speed control even in the hybrid bios?
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 18:32:30
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green4191 Yeah I've not gotten a solid answer and aside from myself I've seen it asked a ton of times. Even on evga weekly. When I did the precision update today it did flash my bios for whatever reason but I see no difference in power draw or 3d mark scores in any test. I did a restart and I did a shutdown and unplugged power for awhile. No change i can see. I may just flash it to the hybrid bios and see what the power draw acts like. I'm assuming you don't have any pump speed control even in the hybrid bios?
I haven't heard of there being any pump control, even with the hybrid bios. My kit should be here Thursday, and on one hand I'm excited to start doing science, but on the other I'm nervous to install it because of these unknowns. eg1122 confirmed earlier in this thread that there is no apparent way to create fan curves based on the hybrid coolant temp (just gpu temp), so I'm kind of worried that the rad fans will thrash up and down based on gpu temp spikes, but I'm getting ahead of myself a bit since I don't even have the kit yet. That might not be an issue unless alt tabbing out a lot, I don't really know. Regardless, I might wait a little while to install it (who am I kidding, it will be installed immediately because I still can't wait to get it).
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 18:38:02
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Yeah I'm going to workaround that fan problem and do a push pull with corsair ll 120 fans. I can't stand hearing my fans ramp up and down constantly and I usually just set a custom rpm in iCue software. I may use their two fans if I can set them to a custom speed but I've never used their fans so I'm not sure on that.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 18:53:50
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green4191 Yeah I'm going to workaround that fan problem and do a push pull with corsair ll 120 fans. I can't stand hearing my fans ramp up and down constantly and I usually just set a custom rpm in iCue software. I may use their two fans if I can set them to a custom speed but I've never used their fans so I'm not sure on that.
I'm going to try the EVGA ones that come with the kit to start, I think. I'm leaning towards using my LL's in a similar way and controlling curves + RGB in iCUE. Or, I might buy 2x normal 2400RPM MLs for the push side and 2x H110i 2400RPM 4-LED MLs for the pull side. It'd be perfect if the GPU coolant temp was available in iCUE to curve off of like you can with the Corsair CPU AOI coolant temp but I think we're stuck with GPU core temp only there.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2020/12/14 20:15:19
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green4191 Yeah I'm going to workaround that fan problem and do a push pull with corsair ll 120 fans. I can't stand hearing my fans ramp up and down constantly and I usually just set a custom rpm in iCue software. I may use their two fans if I can set them to a custom speed but I've never used their fans so I'm not sure on that.
I'm going to try the EVGA ones that come with the kit to start, I think. I'm leaning towards using my LL's in a similar way and controlling curves + RGB in iCUE. Or, I might buy 2x normal 2400RPM MLs for the push side and 2x H110i 2400RPM 4-LED MLs for the pull side. It'd be perfect if the GPU coolant temp was available in iCUE to curve off of like you can with the Corsair CPU AOI coolant temp but I think we're stuck with GPU core temp only there.
I did just that, ML140s https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspxAnd here are test for this configuration https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspxThe ML140 RGBs I have are from the Elite H150i though, they have 8 rgbs, not 4.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
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green4191 Yeah I'm going to workaround that fan problem and do a push pull with corsair ll 120 fans. I can't stand hearing my fans ramp up and down constantly and I usually just set a custom rpm in iCue software. I may use their two fans if I can set them to a custom speed but I've never used their fans so I'm not sure on that.
I'm going to try the EVGA ones that come with the kit to start, I think. I'm leaning towards using my LL's in a similar way and controlling curves + RGB in iCUE. Or, I might buy 2x normal 2400RPM MLs for the push side and 2x H110i 2400RPM 4-LED MLs for the pull side. It'd be perfect if the GPU coolant temp was available in iCUE to curve off of like you can with the Corsair CPU AOI coolant temp but I think we're stuck with GPU core temp only there.
I did just that, ML140s
https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspx
And here are test for this configuration
https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspx
The ML140 RGBs I have are from the Elite H150i though, they have 8 rgbs, not 4.
King, I'm late to the party - just got my Hybrid kit but would like to swap the fans for some better Corsair RGBs such as the QL140 (or ML140). Your links above no longer seem to work properly - can you please point me to your setup or add the info here?
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2021/08/28 20:10:49
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green4191 Yeah I'm going to workaround that fan problem and do a push pull with corsair ll 120 fans. I can't stand hearing my fans ramp up and down constantly and I usually just set a custom rpm in iCue software. I may use their two fans if I can set them to a custom speed but I've never used their fans so I'm not sure on that.
I'm going to try the EVGA ones that come with the kit to start, I think. I'm leaning towards using my LL's in a similar way and controlling curves + RGB in iCUE. Or, I might buy 2x normal 2400RPM MLs for the push side and 2x H110i 2400RPM 4-LED MLs for the pull side. It'd be perfect if the GPU coolant temp was available in iCUE to curve off of like you can with the Corsair CPU AOI coolant temp but I think we're stuck with GPU core temp only there.
I did just that, ML140s
https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspx
And here are test for this configuration
https://forums.evga.com/N...ss-m3108092-p1520.aspx
The ML140 RGBs I have are from the Elite H150i though, they have 8 rgbs, not 4.
King, I'm late to the party - just got my Hybrid kit but would like to swap the fans for some better Corsair RGBs such as the QL140 (or ML140). Your links above no longer seem to work properly - can you please point me to your setup or add the info here?
I apologize, it in is the ML120, not 140. If you want RGB, the ML120 2400 RPM are good. Of you want even better RGB, the Capellix version are even nicer but they aren't sold in store and on the Corsair website. They've also been sold out for a long time. You can still get the 4 led version. They're not that quiet though, but any 2000 RPM fan won't be quiet.
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2021/08/29 15:48:01
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Thanks King, Tobincake! Took me a while to figure out the Corsair fan hub configuration I needed - new to the RGB controllers and ARGB. Funny that EVGA makes NO mention whatsoever of how/where to plug in their Hybrid fan ARGB plugs. I know now, but it would have been helpful if they had described it. Oh - heh, I had 140mm on the brain because I'm also looking at swapping my Corsair H115i Pro fans (2x140mm). The H115i is advertised as "RGB" but it's only the pump, not the fans. False advertising IMO! So I just ordered the QL140 2-pack and QL120 3-pack along with the Lighting hub pro to control it all and add some LED strips to my rather dark case. I know the QL doesn't have as good static pressure, but I've got great airflow in my case and I don't expect I'll be losing all that much - even Jayz2cents has a build with the QLs on all the radiators and it seems to be fine (not optimal, but fine). So my rear exhaust will now be swapped to a QL120, swapping the EVGA Hybrid fans for 2xQL120, and swapping the fans on my H115i for 2xQL140. Now I just need to find room for the hub controllers and all these !$%@^!& new wires! ;-P Side question - does anyone know how to sync your RAM LEDs with the Corsair iCue SW? Or iCue with AuraSync?
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Re: Hybrid Kit for 3080/3090 FTW3 BIOS and Corsair Fan Questions
2021/08/29 19:08:41
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mbrown9764 Thanks King, Tobincake! Took me a while to figure out the Corsair fan hub configuration I needed - new to the RGB controllers and ARGB. Funny that EVGA makes NO mention whatsoever of how/where to plug in their Hybrid fan ARGB plugs. I know now, but it would have been helpful if they had described it. Oh - heh, I had 140mm on the brain because I'm also looking at swapping my Corsair H115i Pro fans (2x140mm). The H115i is advertised as "RGB" but it's only the pump, not the fans. False advertising IMO! So I just ordered the QL140 2-pack and QL120 3-pack along with the Lighting hub pro to control it all and add some LED strips to my rather dark case. I know the QL doesn't have as good static pressure, but I've got great airflow in my case and I don't expect I'll be losing all that much - even Jayz2cents has a build with the QLs on all the radiators and it seems to be fine (not optimal, but fine). So my rear exhaust will now be swapped to a QL120, swapping the EVGA Hybrid fans for 2xQL120, and swapping the fans on my H115i for 2xQL140. Now I just need to find room for the hub controllers and all these !$%@^!& new wires! ;-P Side question - does anyone know how to sync your RAM LEDs with the Corsair iCue SW? Or iCue with AuraSync?
There are a few H115i. What you should have got was the H115i Platinum or Elite Capellix. I think you bought the Pro. As for the RGB on the name, it's because the AIO itself is RGB.
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mbrown9764 Thanks King, Tobincake! Took me a while to figure out the Corsair fan hub configuration I needed - new to the RGB controllers and ARGB. Funny that EVGA makes NO mention whatsoever of how/where to plug in their Hybrid fan ARGB plugs. I know now, but it would have been helpful if they had described it. Oh - heh, I had 140mm on the brain because I'm also looking at swapping my Corsair H115i Pro fans (2x140mm). The H115i is advertised as "RGB" but it's only the pump, not the fans. False advertising IMO! So I just ordered the QL140 2-pack and QL120 3-pack along with the Lighting hub pro to control it all and add some LED strips to my rather dark case. I know the QL doesn't have as good static pressure, but I've got great airflow in my case and I don't expect I'll be losing all that much - even Jayz2cents has a build with the QLs on all the radiators and it seems to be fine (not optimal, but fine). So my rear exhaust will now be swapped to a QL120, swapping the EVGA Hybrid fans for 2xQL120, and swapping the fans on my H115i for 2xQL140. Now I just need to find room for the hub controllers and all these !$%@^!& new wires! ;-P Side question - does anyone know how to sync your RAM LEDs with the Corsair iCue SW? Or iCue with AuraSync?
There are a few H115i. What you should have got was the H115i Platinum or Elite Capellix. I think you bought the Pro.
As for the RGB on the name, it's because the AIO itself is RGB.
Yep, I got the Pro. Their pictures were deceptive too, though, never showing the fans in a running system and what you could see was *LIT* by other LED strips in the case (out of view). In any case I bought it 2 years ago, before the Capellix even existed (maybe even the Elite too). But anyway - new fans arrive tomorrow so I can rip everything out, replace all the fans, and run a bunch of wires. :) Just finished swapping the Hybrid cooler onto my 3080ti FTW - not really too hard, but nerve wracking when you're messing with such an expensive card (that I've had all of 2 weeks)! Took me a grand total of oh, 2-3 hours I think.
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