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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 18:56:50 (permalink)
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Since either am in the military, and we have a ton of HVAC guys right next door, I may see if I can hire one for a case of beer and cost of equipment to do the repair for me. If I can, no harm no foul (post repair....)..  I honestly am glad I pulled all of the insulation off, because it was barely held on.  There was condensation about 5" above the actual case.. If I can get it repaired, I am going to push the tube in there, and seal it extremely well all the way back to the case in hopes of avoiding this issue.
 

 
That would be Great if you could get it repaired and continue your endeavors in Phase Change Cooling and not let this setback get to you.
If I had stopped Years ago when I encountered my first Major Component Meltdown, I wouldn't be still posting on this Forum Today.
 
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but, until then, let me see if I can break something else:
 





LOL, I'll be right behind you (I Guess We'll Never Learn.........)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 18:58:28 (permalink)
So, should I slap in the 780.. the 780ti.. or a 980K|ngp|n?


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 19:08:36 (permalink)
Looking at your struggles around the insulation + head....why not use 2" heatshrink tubing?  McMaster sells "Moisture-Seal Heat-Shrink Tubing" that has a sappy sort of material on the inside that melts when you heat it up.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 19:40:23 (permalink)
I couldn't get the mount off, as you may have missed, so there would been no betting heat sink tubing on anything unfortunately. If I have to tear it down, I will look into that though.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/03 04:51:42 (permalink)
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So, should I slap in the 780.. the 780ti.. or a 980K|ngp|n?




I would Test with the 780 first (or any older graphics card you may have) until you are sure everything is working well with the CPU LN2 Pot and there is No visible condensation that appears.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/03 05:06:14 (permalink)
That was my thought process as well :-D. I have the two 780 classifieds, and I know some say to use Petroleum only, but I went back to something I know works, and sealed around most of the exposed Electronics with clear fingernail polish, as I noticed many amateur overclock Era do until they get everything correct.

The one thing I didn't account for was the backplate on the cpu block. It sits just under the lip of the test bench motherboard opening for the backplate, making it so that I can not screw the motherboard down, so I am probably going to remove the test bench from the equation (until I can modify the opening for the backplate) and just have it lying on the original box for testing.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/03 06:12:38 (permalink)
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The one thing I didn't account for was the backplate on the cpu block. It sits just under the lip of the test bench motherboard opening for the backplate, making it so that I can not screw the motherboard down, so I am probably going to remove the test bench from the equation (until I can modify the opening for the backplate) and just have it lying on the original box for testing.



I used eight of these extended stand-offs (1") to raise the MB from the mounting frame for additional clearance. 
 
http://comingsoon.radioshack.com/metal-standoffs-with-screws-4-pack/2760195.html#.VW78BGdFAdU
 
 
You could also use another set of standard MB standoffs screwed together two at a time for additional space.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/03 20:52:26 (permalink)
One of these days when money flows better I will be doing all of this. Even if the tech is ancient. 
I currently feel like a junky going through withdraw.
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/03 21:59:20 (permalink)
Wow! Just one bad break after another...
 
Well, since it's sort of broken. I would take it all off and redo it. That way you will know for sure it's fixed and you can repair it if need be.
As to your cpu backplate. See if you can find someone who has a rampage board. They give you two types of backplate mounts. (I took my big one off to put the small one on instead.) The smaller one fits with just about everything.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/05 20:52:05 (permalink)
Ok, so strange kicker now... The scrap Heap is an ice box (wink)... I get completely booted into Windows and if there is a vga driver loaded, I get "no signal detected". I have narrowed it to the driver, I am all the way back to 337.xx and still getting no signal after the driver loads..

If I boot into safe mode, I can remove the driver and boot into Windows just fine... What am I doing wrong here?

I used the evbot to bump the voltage up, and the cpu is stable, but I can't figure out what is causing the vga driver glitch. Using the dvi to RGB adapter also.








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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 09:32:35 (permalink)
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Ok, so strange kicker now... The scrap Heap is an ice box (wink)... I get completely booted into Windows and if there is a vga driver loaded, I get "no signal detected". I have narrowed it to the driver, I am all the way back to 337.xx and still getting no signal after the driver loads..

If I boot into safe mode, I can remove the driver and boot into Windows just fine... What am I doing wrong here?

I used the evbot to bump the voltage up, and the cpu is stable, but I can't figure out what is causing the vga driver glitch. Using the dvi to RGB adapter also.










Been Busy and Just now saw your post today on your DICE project.
Looking Good, Did you ever get it up and running yet?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 09:36:53 (permalink)
Well, I Sold my single Titan X and decided to go ahead (Once again) and purchase four EVGA 980Ti SC+'s.
Here's a Screen Shot of the First Run so far in Fire Strike.
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 10:13:37 (permalink)
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Well, I Sold my single Titan X and decided to go ahead (Once again) and purchase four EVGA 980Ti SC+'s.
Here's a Screen Shot of the First Run so far in Fire Strike.
 





 
Can't wait to see more results.  That looks like a pretty good start to the fun.
 
I never could get past the driver failure, and it only happened when a driver was loaded.  Once I let everything warm up, I was able to boot just fine, so I guess it was a cold bug, but I have no clue as a complete and total newb how to bypass it.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 10:59:28 (permalink)
Thanks, and don't feel like the Lone Ranger, I had even more disastrous results the first time I tried DICE cooling on just the CPU when it totally failed at about -62.5C!
 
Ever since then I have been just staying with Phase Change/Chilled water cooling as in the past without any problems.





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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 11:38:16 (permalink)
The cpu did run ok. I only went to 5.3 with it so far and ran a couple of benches but didn't save anything in the frustration of the gpu.

The condensation was absolutely minimal on the cpu pot.. Only where I forgot to cover. It worked like a charm.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 11:48:31 (permalink)
You could try installing your "other" 780 with just air cooling with the CPU on DICE to check the System out in that setup and post some scores.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/13 11:50:42 (permalink)
I may try the other K|ngp|n when it arrives. I tested the system warn, with blocks still installed, and it worked wonderful. Even with the drivers installed. Not sure what causes the cold error though.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 05:14:25 (permalink)
Made #11 HOF in Fire Strike Extreme...
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 05:15:40 (permalink)
Very nice!


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 05:16:01 (permalink)
Made #6 HOF in Fire Strike Ultra.
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 06:48:30 (permalink)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 07:15:00 (permalink)
Made #4 HOF in Mark11 Extreme.
 
I wish Nvidia would put out another GeForce Driver besides 353.06, Which is the ONLY driver you can use for any of the New 980 Ti Cards. Nothing Else Below this can be installed, and it doesn't really work well running in Windows 7, But c'est la vie (That's Life).
 

 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 07:36:40 (permalink)
Get it! How close to #1? I say... A little... Shove... Would be good.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 08:55:56 (permalink)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 08:58:40 (permalink)
Good lord... My hopes and dreams over taking over the boards are gone... Lol!


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 09:26:59 (permalink)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 10:37:07 (permalink)
OK Folks, It's 95F outside here in Florida and getting Hotter! 
Time to let the House & PC Cool Down, Maybe take a little Cruise in the Cobra (With the A/C & Stereo on) and check out the Beach Scene.

 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 11:01:06 (permalink)
Looking good Hallowen!
 
Looks like Ill have to pass on testing these out though since they are not better than the Titan X, but sure are better on price though.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 11:13:47 (permalink)
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Looking good Hallowen!
 
Looks like Ill have to pass on testing these out though since they are not better than the Titan X, but sure are better on price though.


Thanks John, I kind of figured since they have a "lower spec" GM200 Chip & Less memory they may/may not reach comparable Titan X scores, But I'd sure like to see more than one new driver available from Nvidia since None of the older drivers (especially 350.12) won't work.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/15 11:34:11 (permalink)
When you say they won't work...What do you mean exactly?

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