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https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-3090-ti-graphics-cards-are-bundled-with-3x8-pin-to-pcie-gen5-16-pin-power-adapters According to the leaks, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti has a TDP of 450W. With such a high power input, even two 8-pin PCIe power are not sufficient, such configuration can only sustain 300W of power. This is a major difference between the RTX 3090 and RTX 3090 Ti cards. The Founders Edition of the former flagship SKU released in 2020 features a 12-pin connector (basically the same cable but without the ‘sense’ pins). It shipped with dual 8-pin to 12-pin power adapter. This is obviously enough for the 350W TDP because the card still has access to 75W of power through the PCIe interface. The RTX 3090 Ti with 100W higher TDP will need three 8-pin power cables or a native implementation of the 12VHPWR (12+4 or 16-pin) PCIe Gen5. However, the power supplies with the native cable will not be available in time for RTX 3090 Ti, which launches on March 29th. For this reason, the adapter is required. The adapter will provide 450W of power alone and a total of 525W with the PCIe interface. One should expect a number of custom RTX 3090 TI designs to reach 500W of maximum TDP. The RTX 3090 Ti features a GA102-350 GPU with all 10752 CUDA cores enabled. This is NVIDIA’s first RTX model with 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory and new power connector. The RTX 3090 Ti should be the last flagship Ampere SKUs to launch before NVIDIA unleashes its Ada GPUs later this year. That is a lot of power. I think a beefy PSU will also be needed.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/24 11:24:08
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Here come the burned wires...
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/24 11:25:41
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Three 8-pins can do 600+ watts. I've already done so with a 3090 kingpin. This adapter will allow over 525w since it connects to three 8-pins.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 00:21:29
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Isn't the Kingpin supposed to have two of the PCIe gen5 power connectors, so then it'll need two of these adapters? That'll mean it can take up to six of the 8-pin power cables.. lmao
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 02:57:20
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Gonna admit all these new W specs and new psu connectors are confusing me! can already see psus with tons of cables! all i know is energy demand is increasing for gfx cards and its ridiculous! electricity is super expensive!
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 04:36:06
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Miguell Gonna admit all these new W specs and new psu connectors are confusing me! can already see psus with tons of cables! all i know is energy demand is increasing for gfx cards and its ridiculous! electricity is super expensive!
Just by an electric car! That will solve all your problems.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 05:33:57
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firerain
Miguell Gonna admit all these new W specs and new psu connectors are confusing me! can already see psus with tons of cables! all i know is energy demand is increasing for gfx cards and its ridiculous! electricity is super expensive!
Just by an electric car! That will solve all your problems.
On the plus side, lithium stocks have been fun.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 07:09:07
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firerain
Miguell Gonna admit all these new W specs and new psu connectors are confusing me! can already see psus with tons of cables! all i know is energy demand is increasing for gfx cards and its ridiculous! electricity is super expensive!
Just by an electric car! That will solve all your problems.
why on earth would an eletric car solve my problems? i have Diesel and it will be for as long as i can. what has an eletric car TO DO to do with this 3090Ti PSU topic?
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 07:13:41
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Miguell Gonna admit all these new W specs and new psu connectors are confusing me! can already see psus with tons of cables! all i know is energy demand is increasing for gfx cards and its ridiculous! electricity is super expensive!
Just by an electric car! That will solve all your problems.
why on earth would an eletric car solve my problems? i have Diesel and it will be for as long as i can. what has an eletric car TO DO to do with this 3090Ti PSU topic?
I believe it was sarcasm.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 08:48:46
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Sajin Three 8-pins can do 600+ watts. I've already done so with a 3090 kingpin. This adapter will allow over 525w since it connects to three 8-pins.
Vince “K|ngp|n Lucido has pulled near 1000w from three 8 pin connectors without the world burning to the ground. These “specs” are just silly at this point. I am betting if the adapters are torn down, most of the cables dead end and don’t connect to anything. Buying dual 8 pin to 12 pin adapter for the 3070-3090 founders had the sense cables missing from the connector, so it was just two 6 pin cables with two dead end cables next to them. Buying a 3070 founders used only a single 8 pin adapter to 12 pin, and only 6 cables were used to the 12 pin, with 6 dead end cables next to them and no pins in the adapter. The spec is just to push a better terminal on the GPU, and the wattage is just a safety catch all for when someone burns their house down.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 09:11:28
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Sajin Three 8-pins can do 600+ watts. I've already done so with a 3090 kingpin. This adapter will allow over 525w since it connects to three 8-pins.
Vince “K|ngp|n Lucido has pulled near 1000w from three 8 pin connectors without the world burning to the ground. These “specs” are just silly at this point.
I am betting if the adapters are torn down, most of the cables dead end and don’t connect to anything.
Buying dual 8 pin to 12 pin adapter for the 3070-3090 founders had the sense cables missing from the connector, so it was just two 6 pin cables with two dead end cables next to them.
Buying a 3070 founders used only a single 8 pin adapter to 12 pin, and only 6 cables were used to the 12 pin, with 6 dead end cables next to them and no pins in the adapter.
The spec is just to push a better terminal on the GPU, and the wattage is just a safety catch all for when someone burns their house down.
It's a little like the 3090 FTW3 Ultra is rated at 1800MHz boost and nothing above that is guaranteed, but it's not unusual to run them at 2200MHz overclock without issue. Same goes for cables; rated at 150W, but you can probably pump a lot more juice through them, just no guarantees. NVidia likely have certain safety tolerances that have been set after discussion between their techs and their lawyers, and they will always err on the side of caution.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 10:23:10
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Miguell why on earth would an eletric car solve my problems? i have Diesel and it will be for as long as i can. what has an eletric car TO DO to do with this 3090Ti PSU topic?
Its a joke. A lot of elite type folks are putting out statements to buy a electric cars if they can't afforded to pay for power/gas and other things.
yeah... did not find it funny.. i didn't get it actually 1! :D here in Portugal there are already creating monthly electric plans (or fees if you will ) just for the purpose of charging cars.. so.... here electricity is very expensive! i have no clue how much it costs more per month with a regular charging of an electrical car.. and the gods forbid me if i know how much it will be with these new wattage gpu specs.. cause i run my pc all day long!! and sure thing electricity wont be cheaper in the future! i feel its all a trap we are getting into.. electric cars.. more electronics and same time more power hungry electronics... the future is electrical sure.. and costly!
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 11:56:49
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Miguell why on earth would an eletric car solve my problems? i have Diesel and it will be for as long as i can. what has an eletric car TO DO to do with this 3090Ti PSU topic?
Its a joke. A lot of elite type folks are putting out statements to buy a electric cars if they can't afforded to pay for power/gas and other things.
yeah... did not find it funny.. i didn't get it actually 1! :D here in Portugal there are already creating monthly electric plans (or fees if you will ) just for the purpose of charging cars.. so.... here electricity is very expensive! i have no clue how much it costs more per month with a regular charging of an electrical car.. and the gods forbid me if i know how much it will be with these new wattage gpu specs.. cause i run my pc all day long!! and sure thing electricity wont be cheaper in the future! i feel its all a trap we are getting into.. electric cars.. more electronics and same time more power hungry electronics... the future is electrical sure.. and costly!
I always forget this is multi national forum. We have a huge inflation problem here in the USA and with sanctions and other stuff ,our gas which is less expensive then lots of places has gone up. Making people mad, and also further trickling down and increasing prices on other goods. The fatcats in control laugh at the peasants and tell them to buy electric cars. Which is just more salt on the wound. Your accurate statement about energy prices triggered a cognitive connection in the brain that led to some unpleasant thoughts that where turned into sarcasm. Hence my post.
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Re: GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics cards are bundled with 3×8-pin to PCIe Gen5 (16-pin) powe
2022/03/25 12:41:31
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the_Scarlet_one Vince “K|ngp|n Lucido has pulled near 1000w from three 8 pin connectors without the world burning to the ground. These “specs” are just silly at this point.
I am betting if the adapters are torn down, most of the cables dead end and don’t connect to anything.
Buying dual 8 pin to 12 pin adapter for the 3070-3090 founders had the sense cables missing from the connector, so it was just two 6 pin cables with two dead end cables next to them.
Buying a 3070 founders used only a single 8 pin adapter to 12 pin, and only 6 cables were used to the 12 pin, with 6 dead end cables next to them and no pins in the adapter.
The spec is just to push a better terminal on the GPU, and the wattage is just a safety catch all for when someone burns their house down.
The thing is, results can vary greatly depending on the PSU PCI-E cables and terminals. Some can do about 12-13 amps per wire, some can "only" do 8-9 amps. Some have one connector per cable, some have two. Two 8-pin connectors on the same cable were not within spec last time I checked the PCI-E documentation either. It was either one connector per cable, or two connectors per cable with only one of them being an 8-pin max (so you had one 6-pin plus one 8-pin, or two 6-pin connectors per cable, but not two 8-pin ones). Add to that the wear and tear (loose female terminals, oxidation, etc,) and current capabilities drop even more. You end up with a 20-25% reduction in current capabilities after a few years. It is a bit messy as it is. The new connector can make things better, in theory at least.
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