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Hi guys, thought i'd start a folding thread for those folding on 780's. Would be nice to see who is getting what WU give what ppd and also give a idea to those purchasing these cards how ppd they can get. Let me start of by showing what i'm currently getting on my 780 SC ACX at the time of writing this: Folding 2 7624 Wu's and each card out putting about 61000 PPD 
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 08:53:18
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With the beta flag, I'm pulling 130k ppd on the 8900 WU with a GTX 780, with 980Mhz Boost.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 09:39:55
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130k wow, is that just one 780?
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 09:55:09
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Yes, just one, here's a screenshot:  You should use the beta flags, you should get 260K ppd on this WU's with your GTX 780's, just remember that the beta WU's on the gpu needs some cpu resources, because of that, I'm running smp 7 on my i7, leaving one core free for the GTX780..
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 10:05:44
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I'll give this a try once the current WU finish. Which flag do i need to enter for the GPU's to get beta WU?
Also i'm not folding on my q9550 so i guess it will be ok
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 10:53:37
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I believe that you can add a flag even if you are folding a WU, the flag should take effect on the next WU. On your client: click Configure-->Slots-->Select the "gpu" slot-->Edit-->Scroll down to "Extra slot options" clik Add. You should be seeing something like this:  Fill the "Name" with client type, and the "Value" with beta, just like the screenshot. And you should pick beta WU's. Post the results, or any issue.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 11:00:59
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dipzy_v
I'll give this a try once the current WU finish. Which flag do i need to enter for the GPU's to get beta WU?
Also i'm not folding on my q9550 so i guess it will be ok
You will need a passkey to get those bonus points http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py and must complete 10 work units also, then bonus points will start.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 11:09:36
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I've got the passkey.
Isn't the bonus points only for cpu folding or do GPU have them as well because i have done more than 10 on my previous cards which were 670's
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 11:21:50
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The projects that go with this new beta core are the first bonus-eligible GPU projects. Only bonus-eligible WUs count towards bonus eligibility, so if all you've ever folded are GPU WUs then you'll need to complete 10 of these new ones before seeing bonus points.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 11:58:18
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My 780 step up will not be here for like a 1 1/2 - 2 weeks. they should get my 670 ftw wed and then i don't know how long it takes em to turn it around.
But i'll break it in folding it a few days at least in the evenings. Its into the upper 90's down here already so heavy daytime folding will heat the house up too much.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 12:06:57
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Something others maybe interested in knowing. "Quisarious"I was able to OC my titans pretty significantly in Windows, while I could barely get over stock settings in Linux. I have no idea if this is something particular to titans (or maybe GPU-boost2), or something more generally related to the Nvidia drivers. I have had a couple errors in Linux on one card using the stock bios (I have EVGA SC versions, so there is a factory over clock). I have not seen any errors on the 'problem' titan since flashing to the EVGA standard edition bios. It's also worth noting that the titan I had to flash to a non-factory over clocked bios to get stability in Linux, ran 8900s in Windows without errors with a 200Mhz overclock.
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GPU-boost2 works fine in linux.
The only way to OC in linux is via a BIOS flash (and it's not the adjusted bios that is causing the Linux instability, I ran the same modified bios in Windows, in addition to stock bios in both)
Clock for clock the titans are ~5secs faster in Linux.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 13:11:00
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Regarding the overclock, If I OC my 780, I get errors on folding the 8900, but I was also getting errors when I OC'ed my 570, all with the 8900, but with the 7663, my 570 was overclocked to hell and no errors at all.. since the first problem with the 8900 and OC, I just left the cards at stock clocks, this applies to the 570 and the 780, the temps with the 8900 are lower than the 7663, so I run my card at stock clocks.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 13:14:16
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I have applied the flags to both cards, just have to wait until the cards finish their current wu
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 15:02:48
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One card has now started a beta WU and the other will once its current wu is done
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/15 16:13:49
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 01:44:11
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These cards have a crazy amount of PPD when there's beta units o.O
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 02:29:22
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jits_h
These cards have a crazy amount of PPD when there's beta units o.O
yup they do, in an hour the 2nd card should start a beta WU then ppd will be insane 
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 14:21:51
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Hi there.
I am new to this forum and relatively new to folding as well.
Started with folding a few weeks ago and do mostly folding with GPUs. (Will hit 50m points today)
I do have one system running with 2x GTX 780, the others are with Titans and 7970s.
The GTX 780 is an admirable performer, delivering about 14% slower TPF than the Titan for folding. This is based on the 12 vs 14 SMX engines activated in the respective GPUs. As core17 adds a QRB, the daily ppd difference is approx 25%.
Over the course of 2 weeks, the GTX780s delivered in the range of 140-150k ppd. Please note, that my cards are slightly OC (1097 MHz @boost freq, +100 MHz).
Within core17, WU 8900 is more demanding than WU7663, so a OC setting fine for 7663 might be too aggressive for 8900, reducing system stability. You need to check your system.
Energy efficiency (ppd/watt) for the GTX780 is better than for the 7970 GHz ed., but a bit lower than for the Titans (due to QRB).
In my setups (identical base systems for respective dual GPU setups), the total cost of permanently folding for 3 years (purchase+energy) the GTX 780 leads the 3 cards. (Please note: this is with prices in my country, yours might be slightly different)
Keep on folding, the GTX 780 is a great performer with current WUs,
Andy
PS: please consider that points and bonus per WU might change when the beta period is over and this project moves to regular delivery.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 14:37:50
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AndyE
Hi there.
I am new to this forum and relatively new to folding as well.
Started with folding a few weeks ago and do mostly folding with GPUs. (Will hit 50m points today)
I do have one system running with 2x GTX 780, the others are with Titans and 7970s.
The GTX 780 is an admirable performer, delivering about 14% slower TPF than the Titan for folding. This is based on the 12 vs 14 SMX engines activated in the respective GPUs. As core17 adds a QRB, the daily ppd difference is approx 25%.
Over the course of 2 weeks, the GTX780s delivered in the range of 140-150k ppd. Please note, that my cards are slightly OC (1097 MHz @boost freq, +100 MHz).
Within core17, WU 8900 is more demanding than WU7663, so a OC setting fine for 7663 might be too aggressive for 8900, reducing system stability. You need to check your system.
Energy efficiency (ppd/watt) for the GTX780 is better than for the 7970 GHz ed., but a bit lower than for the Titans (due to QRB).
In my setups (identical base systems for respective dual GPU setups), the total cost of permanently folding for 3 years (purchase+energy) the GTX 780 leads the 3 cards. (Please note: this is with prices in my country, yours might be slightly different)
Keep on folding, the GTX 780 is a great performer with current WUs,
Andy
PS: please consider that points and bonus per WU might change when the beta period is over and this project moves to regular delivery.
Welcome Andy  Those are some impressive folding setups you have. 50mill is massive for two weeks of folding. Are you folding 24/7? I'm currently getting around 141k ppd with the 8900 units, each takes about 5 hours to do. On a weekend will be able to do about 2 WU on each card and one each day on weekdays as i'm not allowed to keep rig running 24/7. Folding performance is great on these cards, may even add a 3rd card a few months down the line 
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 14:47:41
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dipzy_vAre you folding 24/7? Yes. Folding performance is great on these cards, may even add a 3rd card a few months down the line Make sure you keep temp under control. I started with 4GPUs per system, but heat is harder to get under control for all 4 cards, versus a simpler setup with 2 GPUs per system (and 3 PCIe slots distance) Andy
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 16:19:08
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Andy,
I am a fan of your work over at [H]. Please dont hesitate to drop by here and offer some of your insight as well.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/16 17:50:15
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*comic book guy voice* Oh My Gawd! I'm SO jealous, guys!
Seriously, this is a thread of beauty that gives us lowly peons something to reach towards! And reach I will! Oh yes, I will have one . . .
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/17 00:22:58
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bobc36 Andy,
I am a fan of your work over at [H]. Please dont hesitate to drop by here and offer some of your insight as well.
Bob Bob, thank you for your kind remarks. That's why I registered to drop by occasionally and to participate here. One GPU is from EVGA, so I hope I am "eligible" :D FYI, I've updated my folding "learning thread" yesterday , will use it probably as a kind of logbook going forward. (I tried to include a link to the thread at [H]forum, but it gets auto-deleted when I submit this post) BTW, you are far ahead (at least 7 months at current rates). Don't know if I will get as far. I'll see .... :) regards, Andy
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/17 05:12:41
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/18 02:39:44
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bobc36
This is the thread, correct? A lot of good information for those that dont frequent other forums.
Hi Bob, yes this is my main thread - thanks for sharing the link. Guess i have to wait a few posts, until I can paste links directly in here. In case there is interest, there is a second thread titled "core x17 - WU 8900" with some datapoints I experienced. rgds, Andy
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/22 12:24:53
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One thing that I've noticed is, if I move the power limit to 106%, my power usage climbs a little, I have my card at stock clocks.. With the power limit at 106%, the tpf on a 8900 is 3m 27s, with the power limit at 100, the tpf is 3m 30s more or less, with 106% my power usage NEVER goes above 73%, so why I'm getting more performance just with adding more % on the power limit? My clocks are the same with 100% power limit and 106%, my card boost is 980 Mhz. And I don't have throttling because of temps or power usage..
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/22 12:55:24
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How did you measure the change? You might have used HFM or FAHControl.
I would recommend:
1) Core17 has a mandatory checkpoint at each even percent point progress (2%, 4%, 6%, 8%, ....). Depending on your hard disk/SSD, a few seconds are added.
2) For assesments like the one above, I'd suggest that you take the full execition time of a WU as the base to check if there is really a difference and if there is, how much.
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/22 17:01:55
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Anyone seen PPD numbers on GTX 770s?
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/22 17:23:06
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my guess is close to a GTX680 - 81k
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Re:GTX 780 Folding Thread
2013/06/22 19:13:56
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One thing that I've noticed is, if I move the power limit to 106%, my power usage climbs a little, I have my card at stock clocks.. With the power limit at 106%, the tpf on a 8900 is 3m 27s, with the power limit at 100, the tpf is 3m 30s more or less, with 106% my power usage NEVER goes above 73%, so why I'm getting more performance just with adding more % on the power limit? My clocks are the same with 100% power limit and 106%, my card boost is 980 Mhz. And I don't have throttling because of temps or power usage..
The 3 second difference is just random variation. Raising the power limit does nothing for FAH. As you noted, FAH never comes close to the default power limit. Upping the voltage will decrease tpfs (slightly) as that adds additional turbo bins (even if you don't change the clocks).
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