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2014/09/15 10:01:32 (permalink)
I bought a EVGA GTX 770 ACX in May of this year (2014) and being on September (less than 6 months) my card has some heavy corrosion or rust all over the plate that holds the fans and also the fins seem to be damaged, i need some advice on how to clean this parts or what should i do. The humidity where i live is around 66% and temps are 31°C/88°F normally.
 
I just opened my case to clean the dust and found this! i haven't applied any kind of liquid and the card is brand new, i unboxed it myself.
 
if i really have to, i´ll send it back for a refund or something, if somebody can advice me on this i would be very grateful.

I appreciate any professional advice on this subject since returning it is kind of diffcult since i bought it on Amazon and i don't live in the US.

thanks in advance.

Here are the pics on how it looks
 
 

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 10:52:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/15 14:20:09
I need to know what country you reside in but I will ask EVGA tech support if they have time to review your post.
 
 

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 10:57:52 (permalink)
Do you have something that measures the humidity in your room or are you going by what the humidity is outside? I ask this because on some days the humidity outside here is 50-60% however without my air conditioner on, humidity can reach 70% or so in the room which is way too high for my liking. With my air conditioner running I keep my room at 40-50% at all times.
 
Also if the ambient temp drops fast at night and the PC is still warm, moisture can build up quickly...

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 11:04:16 (permalink)
That's horrible but that excess humidity will do that.  I'd recommend getting a dehumidifier as this won't be happening exclusively with your PC or its parts, all your other electronics are at risk too.
 
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Do you have something that measures the humidity in your room or are you going by what the humidity is outside? I ask this because on some days the humidity outside here is 50-60% however without my air conditioner on, humidity can reach 70% or so in the room which is way too high for my liking. With my air conditioner running I keep my room at 40-50% at all times.
 
Also if the ambient temp drops fast at night and the PC is still warm, moisture can build up quickly...


 
I'm pretty sure he's going by the outside humidity and not specifically his room.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 11:40:39 (permalink)
Humidity is an electronic killer for sure. In saying that, you should look around the inside of the PC a bit more. If humidity is the big issue you should see corrosion on the motherboard capacitors and anything that is metal that heats up for that matter....

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 14:29:02 (permalink)
Well guys, i posted the humidity that i found over internet giving my location, like the regular humidity where i live, and my city is kind of close to the sea.
 
rjohnson11 i live in Barranquilla, Colombia and i bought this card over amazon in may, i appreciate  your help.
 
I really have to take some action on this or else ill have only a piece of rust by the end of the year! not to think what i had to save to buy this rig and it doesn't have even one year!
 
Ive read something about isopropyl and cleaning, any advice? does EVGA covers this kind of damage?
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 14:37:28 (permalink)
I do not believe EVGA covers damage due to humidity as it is not a manufactures defect but I could be wrong. Hopefully its is simply a surface issue. However I would, as mentioned above look into a humidifier. At the least I would purchase a humidity monitor which cost about $10 here in Canada. 
 
The humidity in a room will be different than the humidity outside for the most part. Depending on how your house or apartment is insulated moisture can get trapped between the walls causing the humidity inside to be quite a bit higher then what is recorded outside.
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 14:37:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/15 14:43:37
I do not believe EVGA covers damage due to humidity as it is not a manufactures defect but I could be wrong. Hopefully its is simply a surface issue. However I would, as mentioned above look into a humidifier. At the least I would purchase a humidity monitor which cost about $10 here in Canada. 
 
The humidity in a room will be different than the humidity outside for the most part. Depending on how your house or apartment is insulated moisture can get trapped between the walls causing the humidity inside to be quite a bit higher then what is recorded outside.
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 14:42:36 (permalink)
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I need to know what country you reside in but I will ask EVGA tech support if they have time to review your post.
 
 


Barranquilla, Colombia and i bought this card over amazon in may, thanks in advance.


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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 16:12:39 (permalink)
Dear ajvelasco81,
 
I am very sorry as I can confirm that this type of damage due to the climate is not covered by the warranty process. I can recommend following the recommendations made by the other people posting on this thread as if the heatsink is rusting then likely other spots on the card and other electronic components will also rust leading to early failures with the electronic components.
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 18:34:45 (permalink)
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Dear ajvelasco81,
 
I am very sorry as I can confirm that this type of damage due to the climate is not covered by the warranty process. I can recommend following the recommendations made by the other people posting on this thread as if the heatsink is rusting then likely other spots on the card and other electronic components will also rust leading to early failures with the electronic components.
 
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Well Thanks for the reply, i'm the one who is sorry for this kind of inconvenience, i'm the one who' s going to lose all the investment on a short period of time on a GPU that wasn't really tested on tough environments, not everybody can afford a/c or a dehumidifier and this is what happens after a really short time in this kind of climate... i really should've done a little more research about this and the quality of the components before buying. I really think this is a major flaw on the design of this cards, i mean, after 5 months and looks like this? c'mon!!! ... so dissapointed...
 
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 18:44:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/16 12:50:36
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Dear ajvelasco81,
 
I am very sorry as I can confirm that this type of damage due to the climate is not covered by the warranty process. I can recommend following the recommendations made by the other people posting on this thread as if the heatsink is rusting then likely other spots on the card and other electronic components will also rust leading to early failures with the electronic components.
 
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Well Thanks for the reply, i'm the one who is sorry for this kind of inconvenience, i'm the one who' s going to lose all the investment on a short period of time on a GPU that wasn't really tested on tough environments, not everybody can afford a/c or a dehumidifier and this is what happens after a really short time in this kind of climate... i really should've done a little more research about this and the quality of the components before buying. I really think this is a major flaw on the design of this cards, i mean, after 5 months and looks like this? c'mon!!! ... so dissapointed...
 
 


The materials used are pretty much standard across the industry. You'd have the same problem with pretty much any GPU using a similar type cooling arrangement. It really isn't the humidity as much as it is the corrosive effects of the salt. You might be able to find some sort of lightweight corrosion preventative spray something similar to Scotch's 1617 Zinc Spray. You would only use this on the heat sink components. The problem with this is it may affect your warranty.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/15 19:12:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/16 12:50:41
No electronic components available anywhere on earth are going to tolerate high humidity levels, its not a flaw with the card. You can soak the heatsink in vinegar(apple cider), or soak in a bath of coca cola(it really does work). Check around for pricing of dehumidifiers because your vid card is just the first to go, probably because its used more than other electronic components you have.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 13:06:15 (permalink)
Well i guess you guys are right, i´ll have to perform this kind of maintenance monthly if i want this video card to last. but at the stage it is right now i really don't know if i can save it somehow, yesterday i managed to remove the plastic cap and found out that it was really worst, is not only the baseplate of the fans but also the fins look like peeled or something!!! even the aluminum is messed up! will the cocacola or vinegar help with that??? are those fins losing a layer of coating or something?
 
is is true that high humidity and corrosion destroys metals in electronics, i just didn´t see that happening in such short period!
 
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 13:26:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/16 13:34:17
You should look to buy a replacement heatsink if possible. That will make it easier to maintain one rather than trying to backpedal the corrosion that is already set on this one.
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 13:33:54 (permalink)
ok guys i've been thinking in another option, i guess somebody could help... if possible...what kind of water liquid cooler could i fit to this GPU? instead of having all this bulky aluminum heatsink can i replace this with a liquid cooler? i just want my gpu to last longer!
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 13:37:52 (permalink)
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You should look to buy a replacement heatsink if possible. That will make it easier to maintain one rather than trying to backpedal the corrosion that is already set on this one.

Yeah Scarlet-Tech i though that too, i think this problem is way advanced... but i thought it was only possible to cpu's, do you have any recommendations of which one could fit to this card? is that standard? water cooler is better for this project? if so, which one? thanks
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 14:20:59 (permalink)
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ok guys i've been thinking in another option, i guess somebody could help... if possible...what kind of water liquid cooler could i fit to this GPU? instead of having all this bulky aluminum heatsink can i replace this with a liquid cooler? i just want my gpu to last longer!




You're going to have the same problem with a water cooler as you already have with your heatsink. It's not the humidity, it's the salt in the air. As others have said, I'd be willing to bet money that there's more damage on other components in your system other than just the graphics card, and unfortunately, I don't really know what you could do to stop this other than figuring out how to remove all the salt in the air within your home.
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 14:27:29 (permalink)
NVM. 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 16:02:54 (permalink)
 Sorry to hear of your issue. The problem you have, IMO is more to do with the salt than humidity. Also I just wanted to point out that warm or hot things do not collect condensation. Example is when is the last time you had a warm or hot beverage have condensation build up on the container? Never. Cold things collect condensation.
I don't have an answer for your problem, but perhaps you could find out what machine shops, fisherman, or even car enthusiasts do to counter the salty air. 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 21:14:11 (permalink)
Is your pc case near a window ?
 
Perhaps its sucking in rain / spray, and causing the accelerated corrosion.
I stopped opening the window near my pc case because of a couple close calls when no one was home.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 22:37:16 (permalink)
The latter posts are true. Running components are warm enough not to be significantly affected by humidity, alone. It's the salt combined with high humidity that is causing the corrosion. That's why steel bridge structures on coastlines are painted continuously with special paint - corrosive salt spray will penetrate even specially designed coatings to cause the steel surface underneath to rust.

While a fan heatsink can be cleaned and painted to slow down the corrosive effects of salt + humidity, it would also partially insulate the heatsink from doing the job it was designed to do, namely transfer heat from the card's components to the surrounding air. There are other high-performance coatings that can be applied to a heatsink by specialists but it's not cost effective for consumers.
 
Keep your computer as far as possible from any open door or window. If you don't have air-conditioning, I assume your windows are open all of the time to promote air circulation.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 23:38:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ajvelasco81 2014/09/17 06:29:38
I found this very old Dell forum post from 2007 to be helpful:
 
http://en.community.dell....66/p/18335394/18483306

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/16 23:58:11 (permalink)
I'm not really sure the cause of this issue is humidity.
why?
I live at the Aegean what means humidity up to 90% at peak times.
guess what guys, I never had such an issue nor even heard of similar issue here.
 
no manufacturer warns on their sites not to buy their product while residing at the coast.
so what are all the guys at coast areas using? come on, the problem should be somewhere else.
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/17 00:36:50 (permalink)
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I'm not really sure the cause of this issue is humidity.
why?
I live at the Aegean what means humidity up to 90% at peak times.
guess what guys, I never had such an issue nor even heard of similar issue here.
 
no manufacturer warns on their sites not to buy their product while residing at the coast.
so what are all the guys at coast areas using? come on, the problem should be somewhere else.
 
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/17 00:56:58 (permalink)
I live next to the sea at this time (until I move next month) and I don't have a problem with corrosion (salty air) but the humidity isn't that high all year long.  

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/17 07:09:53 (permalink)
@RBIEZE well, i moved it closer to the window to get some more "fresh air", is like 2mts/6ft away form the window, i also bought some plastic cover for it to protect it at night.
 
@WinglessWonder, yeah ill try to do that, thanks. About the coating somebody suggested (HeavyHemi) Scotch's 1617 Zinc Spray but i was afraid it would somehow reduce the heat dissipation causing the system to overheat and i don't know if i should do that.
 
@Sahafiec, Yeah, that's my point, there's no warning anywhere about this climate or the damage it would suffer after such short time on this kind of environment and surely i can´t find a lot of info about this issue. and Sure, ill try to post the pics of the PCB as soon as i open the case.
 
 
i bought fans to almost every available slot on my Thermaltake chaser A21 to inject as much air as i could to avoid overheating due to high temperatures on the area i live in, but i notice that the bottom metal vents on the front (the ones in the front with blue arrows) are rapidly corroding too. so i guess this might be playing against me.
 
this is kind of the standard setup and i did it like this too (one fan less on top) :
 

 
 
 
Some friend read on a German post that the guy solved most of the problem kind of shutting down any available intake fan vents and setting the system to a negative pressure (more air exiting the case via exhaust fans than fresh air entering the case via intake fans and vents) and also setting liquid cooling to CPU and GPU... It makes a lot of sense since you don't want much of this salty air coming in to your case isn't it? right now my system has 4 intake fans and 2 exhaust fans which makes it  a positive pressure system, i think ill revert that for a while and see what happens, maybe there's more to it but in the meantime it could help.
 
Also i chatted to NZXT guy and recommended kraken g10 and x31 and a dehumidifier so i'm considering this to save the GPU, because as you see, this thing is kinda way too damaged, those aluminum fins look like trash.
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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/17 12:14:37 (permalink)
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I'm not really sure the cause of this issue is humidity.
why?
I live at the Aegean what means humidity up to 90% at peak times.
guess what guys, I never had such an issue nor even heard of similar issue here.
 
no manufacturer warns on their sites not to buy their product while residing at the coast.
so what are all the guys at coast areas using? come on, the problem should be somewhere else.
 
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can you please post detailed pictures of your cards PCB, both sides if possible?


Do you have air-conditioning inside of your home?


no, I don't use any by purpose - they make sick as the time goes on.

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/17 12:34:45 (permalink)
sahafiec
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sahafiec
I'm not really sure the cause of this issue is humidity.
why?
I live at the Aegean what means humidity up to 90% at peak times.
guess what guys, I never had such an issue nor even heard of similar issue here.
 
no manufacturer warns on their sites not to buy their product while residing at the coast.
so what are all the guys at coast areas using? come on, the problem should be somewhere else.
 
@ajvelasco81
can you please post detailed pictures of your cards PCB, both sides if possible?


Do you have air-conditioning inside of your home?


no, I don't use any by purpose - they make sick as the time goes on.




I completely agree with you. I lived close to the beach for several years and never seen or heard of this before ( Ps. humidity was always high). Yes, corrosion for those who live close to the ocean is pretty higher that for those who don't, which will cause  some items to  corrode  are a faster rate. However, this is ridiculous... He does not have the card inside the salt water, or over the sand unprotected, but in his home inside a case. There has to be something else here. Unless , he is so close to the ocean that the salt water goes into the computer ;)
post edited by HenryGR - 2014/09/17 12:38:30

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Re: GTX 770 ACX Corroded after 5 months of use! HELP! 2014/09/27 09:04:40 (permalink)
..........wow, this made me look at my acx cooler for a second.

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