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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 13:40:35 (permalink)
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I have this Chieftec 750w PSU, Do u guys think it could handle a single GTX480?

http://www.chieftec.com/tubro-power.html


I'm gonna say yeah since the 750 shows 720W/60A combined for the 12v rails.

But... with 4 rails... I dunno how plays into it. I'm a single rail kinda guy myself.

By the way, what is a "tubro power", lol. Spell check fail.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 13:41:31 (permalink)
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40A per rail though.... so what would happen if I wanted 2 or 3 of them.
 
 
 
 



Dont worry dude...your corsair HX1000W psu can easily handle 2 GTX 480's in SLI...even my TX750 would be more than enough for single GTX 480...or even the upcoming GTX 495 (dual gpu) or whatever they gonna call it....

   

 
 
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 14:32:52 (permalink)
Im planning on building my pc as soon as the 480 drops but I wanted to get a good psu that can handle them in 3 way SLI eventually.

Although Im gonna start with 1 480 Im going to eventually increase to 3 on the 3 way Evga sli classified any recomendations for a good psu?
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 15:10:51 (permalink)
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Great link!!! I also notice the 1.5g GDDR5 RAM as well.....

AND..... They have as a system requirement one PCI-e 16x!!!!!!




I was hoping for 2gb of DDR5 VRAM....

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 18:44:39 (permalink)
You guys should calm down and either read a few of the replies given thus far or do a little homework on what box PSU requirements refer to: Total System Power -- bascially nVidia is assuming which components you have such that the total plus one of their cards equals what the box says.  Unless you happen to have what nVidia assumes, you technically cannot follow box requirements.  But that doesn't mean we take an alarmists stance and going out and assume the most powerful we can afford it the right one.  That's just a false sense of security.

The above green box label says it will work with both PCIe 1 and 2.0 slots. This the the first clue, that in order to be certified to work with the previous spec, it must be able to take 75W from a PCIe 1 slot.  Add in the power from the 8-pin and 6-pin connectors and we are literally gauranteed stock reference speeds won't need more than approx 300W max -- that's not what the card draws, easily someone with an PCIe 1 mainboard system is OC limited, but that's not my point.  300W is 25A, as long as they aren't overclocked that much, we are gaurnateed it will not need more than 25A per card.

A 4GHz quad is approx 200W, batch dependant; add another 100W for a pair of VR's in RAID0, a single optical drive, add-ins as well as motherboard uses.  This comes out to 600W or about 50A on 12v (not every draws from 12v, it is just safer to assume this in terms of max amperages).  As you can see, the box reqs state 42A, is it wrong?  No, likely overclocking wasn't taken into account, because even among high-end, not everyone does it. 

The reverse of that is possible too, that some high turbo Core i5 dual-core at not overclocked would render a PSU or <30A is okay to run the GTX480.  A PSU with a total of 42A allowed on 12v would offer peace or mind in this case, especially if the user never planned to OC anything.  It would be some major future-proofing...

For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 20:01:40 (permalink)
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 20:12:27 (permalink)
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You guys should calm down and either read a few of the replies given thus far or do a little homework on what box PSU requirements refer to: Total System Power -- bascially nVidia is assuming which components you have such that the total plus one of their cards equals what the box says.  Unless you happen to have what nVidia assumes, you technically cannot follow box requirements.  But that doesn't mean we take an alarmists stance and going out and assume the most powerful we can afford it the right one.  That's just a false sense of security.

The above green box label says it will work with both PCIe 1 and 2.0 slots. This the the first clue, that in order to be certified to work with the previous spec, it must be able to take 75W from a PCIe 1 slot.  Add in the power from the 8-pin and 6-pin connectors and we are literally gauranteed stock reference speeds won't need more than approx 300W max -- that's not what the card draws, easily someone with an PCIe 1 mainboard system is OC limited, but that's not my point.  300W is 25A, as long as they aren't overclocked that much, we are gaurnateed it will not need more than 25A per card.

A 4GHz quad is approx 200W, batch dependant; add another 100W for a pair of VR's in RAID0, a single optical drive, add-ins as well as motherboard uses.  This comes out to 600W or about 50A on 12v (not every draws from 12v, it is just safer to assume this in terms of max amperages).  As you can see, the box reqs state 42A, is it wrong?  No, likely overclocking wasn't taken into account, because even among high-end, not everyone does it. 

The reverse of that is possible too, that some high turbo Core i5 dual-core at not overclocked would render a PSU or <30A is okay to run the GTX480.  A PSU with a total of 42A allowed on 12v would offer peace or mind in this case, especially if the user never planned to OC anything.  It would be some major future-proofing...


It's not the watts, it's the amps that I'm concerned with.  I had this concern with my 5970, which only required 35 but it WOULD NOT RUN without it's own rail.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 20:13:59 (permalink)
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I'm good to go


Yep, your all set.... what is that, 120 amps on one rail?  Nice dude.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 20:23:21 (permalink)
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It's not the watts, it's the amps that I'm concerned with.  I had this concern with my 5970, which only required 35 but it WOULD NOT RUN without it's own rail.
In a multi-rail PSU configuration it makes sense, your system as was could have been strained on just one rail, requiring another just for the card. 
 
My old Hiper Type-R was like that, two +12vdc rails of 18A and 20A, but combined to just 30A.  I could run a 920 at 3.6 and a 9800GT OC'd to 750 on the core just fine, but once I threw in a stock GTX260, there was no joy, unless I ran the CPU at stock.  At the time I felt the GTX260 was maxing out one of the rails of my then-3yr old PSU, thus bringing the whole system's stability down.  I upgraded to a CM SilentProM unit with a single rail of 50A, it works much better, I can have my cake and eat it too.
 
I suppose I too could get a GTX480 in terms of power, except I would have to toss my 72W TEC.

For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 21:19:50 (permalink)
How about this one. I currently have the 20A running a single GTX 260 55nm overclocked (see modrigs), and I have the seconds GTX 260  (same card and clocks) on a 30A rail. Do you think I would be able to run two GTX480s. I know I could running them on the two 30A rails alone, but I also have three HDDs and an optical that needs to share some of the amps. Currently, I think I have them on the same rail as the second GPU. 



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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 21:53:14 (permalink)
That box is BS.

The power numbers aren't the same text style or angle as the rest. The extra + after C+ was added in. The 4 in front of the 80 isn't the same angle as the 80. The 7 in Windows 7 isn't at the same angle, or the same text.
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 23:35:27 (permalink)
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That box is BS.

The power numbers aren't the same text style or angle as the rest. The extra + after C+ was added in. The 4 in front of the 80 isn't the same angle as the 80. The 7 in Windows 7 isn't at the same angle, or the same text.


I'm thinking the same thing. Strange.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 23:47:23 (permalink)
Funny the first retail box I see and I never ever heard of the company either.
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/01 23:54:16 (permalink)
I just ordered a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153104 to power one of these!  1 single 60 amp rail 89.99 after MIR! Right now I have an old crappy 500w with a couple 18amp rails yuck.  Ill get one of the cheapers ones, like the 460 when released mid year.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 01:01:19 (permalink)
plz tell me they will make one that has 3 gb
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 01:17:53 (permalink)
The card pictured is a GTX 470, look carefully and you'll see it has 2x 6pins power feed connectors, GTX 480 has 1x 8pins + 1x 6pins for power feed ;)




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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 01:22:59 (permalink)
If that company is real then they seriously need to sack their graphic designer!

To me it looks like a wind up! I'd be embarrassed to knock up that.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 08:44:46 (permalink)
I really don't know what everyone is going on about the package for. You don't use the friggin thing once you get the card in right? So who cares what it looks like? Were you not taught as kids to never judge a book by it's cover? Geez! The things ppl find to whine about.
 
Oh, and the company is not Colorful. It's iGame.
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 11:17:52 (permalink)
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I really don't know what everyone is going on about the package for. You don't use the friggin thing once you get the card in right? So who cares what it looks like? Were you not taught as kids to never judge a book by it's cover? Geez! The things ppl find to whine about.
 
Oh, and the company is not Colorful. It's iGame.


Were you not taught as a kid to then read that book properly?

First of all ppl are legitimately debating whether the company was real or not and what the stats on the box meant. Not whether the box was the most important thing. Stop whining and putting words and meaning into something it's not.

Second, the guy on the video (be he right or not) said colorful was the company. That's why that part evolved.

The box looks tacky and amateurish, hence the legitimate questioning of its validity.

Simple.



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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 11:20:16 (permalink)
Oops....forgot the &

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 11:49:03 (permalink)
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ShockTheMonky

I really don't know what everyone is going on about the package for. You don't use the friggin thing once you get the card in right? So who cares what it looks like? Were you not taught as kids to never judge a book by it's cover? Geez! The things ppl find to whine about.

Oh, and the company is not Colorful. It's iGame.


Were you not taught as a kid to then read that book properly?

First of all ppl are legitimately debating whether the company was real or not and what the stats on the box meant. Not whether the box was the most important thing. Stop whining and putting words and meaning into something it's not.

Second, the guy on the video (be he right or not) said colorful was the company. That's why that part evolved.

The box looks tacky and amateurish, hence the legitimate questioning of its validity.

Simple.


3D Modeller

If that company is real then they seriously need to sack their graphic designer!

To me it looks like a wind up! I'd be embarrassed to knock up that.


Your own words. Anything else you need to say?
 
Oh, and I didn't forget

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 12:02:44 (permalink)
Yeh..it's questioning the legitimacy.

Why can't you get that? It's not hard to understand lol

I'm a designer of 10 years and it was a valid point to make under the discussion.

If you can't understand why ppl are discussing this...then jog on lol

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 12:23:51 (permalink)
Ok this has me worried that perhaps the rumors of the power hog requirements of this card are coming true. I mean I got a HX1000 to futureproof myself and not it seems like there may be issues here..


  

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 12:25:05 (permalink)
The company Colorful is only a subsidiary of iGame Holdings Limited out of China. If you look at the box you'll see that it shows quite clearly iGame Academe. Do a Google and iGame Holding comes up. That's why most have never heard of the company Colorful.
 
Now let's attempt to find out the reasoning behind your hostility. As a child, were you ignored alot? Were you insecure as a teenager? These are 2 common reasons that lead to hostilities being vented on the internet. Being ignored would be impossible because ppl will tend to read what someone has to say before they will actually listen. Being insecure also would drive someone to vent because anything in reply to ones statements would lead the venter to believe they are being belittled or scoffed at.
 
So, which best decribes you?
 

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 13:43:35 (permalink)
Are you completely messed up in the head?

1: We are having a valid conversation in this thread about the box, the details on the box and all things regarding the bloody box.

2: You come on and flame the thread because you're a troll and like to rubbish a perfectly good discussion with ignorance.

3: I defend the thread and those you insulted...and you call me childish, hostile etc? PMSL! You met perfectly good discussion with abuse!!! lol

You sir are crazy!

Unfortunately for you the thread is, by it's nature, a document of events and you have no defense for flaming me afterward. And any psychologist could tell you've just described yourself in your detailed abuse there. Hence your familiarity with the subject.

Now pipe down, grow up and show some respect. Dear o dear

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 14:02:17 (permalink)
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Are you completely messed up in the head?

1: We are having a valid conversation in this thread about the box, the details on the box and all things regarding the bloody box.

2: You come on and flame the thread because you're a troll and like to rubbish a perfectly good discussion with ignorance.

3: I defend the thread and those you insulted...and you call me childish, hostile etc? PMSL! You met perfectly good discussion with abuse!!! lol

You sir are crazy!

Unfortunately for you the thread is, by it's nature, a document of events and you have no defense for flaming me afterward. And any psychologist could tell you've just described yourself in your detailed abuse there. Hence your familiarity with the subject.

Now pipe down, grow up and show some respect. Dear o dear

You're really funny. I need to read more of your post. Such hostility. Really makes me laugh. Please. Go on with more of your rhetoric. I need the laugh.

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 14:07:46 (permalink)
so your saying that i can or cant run 2 of these cards with an hx1000?

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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 14:09:51 (permalink)
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You're really funny. I need to read more of your post. Such hostility. Really makes me laugh. Please. Go on with more of your rhetoric. I need the laugh.


The hostility is all from you...it's documented.

You need need to calm down and stop ruining threads with bitterness.

I won't be taking anymore of your bate. You're aggravating attitude is documented.

We need the 'shake head' smilie.

Edit: added quote.
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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 14:15:29 (permalink)
mcj3671

so your saying that i can or cant run 2 of these cards with an hx1000?


I, like you, would hope the answer is can! It would be frustrating to have to upgrade such a killer PSU. :)


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Re:GTX 480 Retail box pictured with PSU requrements! 2010/03/02 14:19:27 (permalink)
An Hx1000 could run 2 of those cards no problem at all as its Rated at 80A. 

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