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I have installed the above card in a new build and the fan noise is a real problem, specifically the noise coming from the fan on the card itself. The radiator fan is not an issue. The fan on the card goes from off to "way too loud" all the time, back and forth, and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it. I have installed Precision OCX and tried changing the fan settings but nothing I do seems to make any difference. The card remains in the state I received it as far as settings go and I have not tried to overclock it in any way, yet if I run any game the noise goes off the charts. 
 
My temps are fine - this is strictly a noise issue. I have tried observing the temperature values in Precision OCX to determine exactly what is triggering the fan but at I am at a loss to find a consistent cause. What can I do about this fan noise? It is not reasonable.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 09:37:46 (permalink)
    My fan on card is quieter than one on radiator until it speeds up to almost highest, so maybe your fan is broken somehow?
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 10:11:54 (permalink)
    Video would really help.. plus also having the OSD showing the fan % and temp.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:04:25 (permalink)
    Here is a video that I shot with my phone, so not the greatest, but jump to 30 seconds in and you will hear what the fan sounds like when it spins up:
     

     
    The attached image shows the OSD with the fan spun up. XOC and the OSD always show 0 rpms for the fans at all times, but I am quite certain which fan is making the noise and I can see it rev up with my eyes despite the 0 rpms readout.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:04:29 (permalink)
    If you can't control the fan speed it sounds like you have a faulty fan controller.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:06:02 (permalink)
    Looks like it won't let me post a link to the video as I am "too new". The tag below can be modified from other video URLs from youtube to get to the video I uploaded.
     
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:09:26 (permalink)
    Just put a space after http in the url.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:10:37 (permalink)
    https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBbDs5Wf0s
     
    Jump to 30 seconds in.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:13:01 (permalink)
    Nice.. so when that happens what's the temps?? Does the pc lockup?

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:14:39 (permalink)
    Temps are fine, PC is fine. I posted the OSD which showed GPU temp at 33C with the fan spun up like in the video.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:16:58 (permalink)
    And you've tried to change the fan curve and hit apply afterwards and the fans don't change?

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:18:01 (permalink)
    And you've tried to change the fan curve and hit apply afterwards and the fans don't change? There will be 3 different fan curves to change.. they might be all synced with the gpu fan.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:31:15 (permalink)
    I have tried but I will admit that XOC's fan controls are a bit confusing to me and I have tried various things with little impact. If I grab the sliders and move them up to 100 and hit apply, the fan spins up for sure. If I do the same and slide down to 0 the fan turns off. However, nothing I do seems to be able to permanently stop the spin up via Automatic Fan Control settings and the temperatures I set in the curves don't seem to matter. It certainly could be user error as XOC is challenging. I have tried the quiet preset as well as custom to no avail but perhaps I am not applying and saving things correctly.
     
    The quiet settings are supposed to not see a change in fan speed until 60C yet that is clearly not the case for me. I don't think the card has ever hit 60C, it usually stabilizes in the low to mid 50s, yet the fan is cranking away. Can you show me a screenshot of how the correct settings would look to ensure mine are correct? The mini fans above each slider under auto, what do they mean? Should they be in the blue state or the white state? I was assuming blue meant auto was enabled. What does it mean if I set only G to blue and not P or M, does that mean only the GPU temp can trigger the fan speed changes? If I set all 3 to white does that mean auto fan control should be off and it should never spin up - that was my thought but the fan still spun up as usual when I tried that.
     
    Also, I set XOC to run at startup, minimized so I expect my settings will always be in effect and I have only a single profile. 
     
     
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:41:49 (permalink)
    :) let's hope it's just the settings.. I wish I could help more but I don't use pxoc and I have an ek water block on mine and currently use msi afterburner to clock my card.. you don't want to use that as it will only control the 1 gpu fan and the bios would control the other 2.

    But I do believe you need all 3 fans on blue for your curve to work.. and below the sliders the G,M and P.. if you highlight the G then all 3 fan profiles will sync with the gpu fan.

    You can open the fan curves right? 3 small windows open for all 3 fans When you press the fan curve button? And when you done setting the curves you hit ok before closing?

    When your all done you should save it to a profile at the bottom.. think you hit the right mouse button on a number to save the profile. When it does save it will be highlighted.

    That profile will load with windows if you have pxoc set to load with windows.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:43:41 (permalink)
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    The mini fans above each slider under auto, what do they mean? Should they be in the blue state or the white state? What does it mean if I set only G to blue and not P or M, does that mean only the GPU temp can trigger the fan speed changes? If I set all 3 to white does that mean auto fan control should be off and it should never spin up - that was my thought but the fan still spun up as usual when I tried that.

    The mini fans must be blue for any fan curves to take effect. When the mini fans are white it means you're in manual mode. When setting G, P, or M to blue it will show the current rpm for the fan selected. Yes, when all three are set to white the fans should stick to a static speed.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:44:11 (permalink)
    I know it's all confusing and took me a few messing around with it to figure it out.

    Haha sajin got it right.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:47:14 (permalink)
    There's hope it's just a user issue since he was able to start and stop the fans.. that wouldn't happen if the fan controller was broke on the card.. well let's just hope it works for all 3 fans.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 11:57:07 (permalink)
    I will try the settings with them all blue and report back. However, I will state that when they are all white and all sliders are at the bottom the fan will still spin up on its own as I described. i would think that setting would be manual at 0 and stay that way.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:03:39 (permalink)
    Trying the settings in the attached screenshot which is the default for quiet.
     
    if you see anything wrong please let me know.
     
    Thanks for all your help!
     

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:07:38 (permalink)
    Fans spinning up even when in manual mode points to a faulty fan controller imo.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:35:14 (permalink)
    So evga's bios wouldn't take over at a certain temp even if the sliders at manual and 0? So one could cook the card if wanted?

    If it will override the settings maybe it's just a bios issues and re flashing the vbios fix that?

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:39:37 (permalink)
    Have you tried the other vbios on the card? Small black switch by the pci-e power connectors.. just left of them.

    Would need to remove power from the system first.. turn the system off and pull the psu plug from the back and hold the case power button in the 15 secs to drain any remaining power from the system.

    Then flip the vbios switch on the card. Plug the psu in and power up.

    If you don't see in pxoc the option to move the power slider to 128% then you will need to uninstall pxoc and reinstall it as it didn't see the change.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:45:17 (permalink)
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    So evga's bios wouldn't take over at a certain temp even if the sliders at manual and 0? So one could cook the card if wanted?

    The vbios shouldn't kick the fans on until the card hits its thermal slow down temp. The OP said his fans were kicking on high at around 33c.
     
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:48:03 (permalink)
    Maybe the vbios was programmed wrong to think 30-33c is the thermal limit and to why it's kicking into high gear?

    Can't hurt to try the other slave vbios just to see.

    It's a long shot but try it lol.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 12:48:57 (permalink)
    Definitely wouldn't hurt to try the other vbios.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 13:39:49 (permalink)
    YEAH, and You will see any readings only if You select "P" in precision or see IT as "power" in osd as IT is the only controlable fan for hybrid. And IT definitly doesnt come on at 30-tis temps at default. Tryb other bios as guys sugested.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 15:09:17 (permalink)
    Yeah I'm forgetting he has a hybrid.. single fan.

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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/17 23:51:43 (permalink)
    Well it was the worst night of fan noise yet. No setting of the fan seemed to matter much and certainly none of them prevented the loud fan noise. All I tried tonight was the various XOC settings. I will try the other vbios tomorrow night.
     
    One question I have: does the radiator fan play into this in any way? As I was trying to reduce the noise I was experiencing I moved the radiator fan over to be connected to my MB where I have better control of it. That fan is no longer connected to the wire coming from the EVGA card. Could that be contributing to my issue with the fan on the card itself in any way?
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/18 17:41:29 (permalink)
    I have now switched to the other vbios as instructed. Precision XOC didn't seem to recognize the switch after I did it so I uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled. Now the Power Target slider goes up to 127%, so it looks like XOC is acknowledging the switch. I also reconnected the radiator fan back to the wire from the card instead of the MB just in case that mattered. Sadly all of this made no real difference. I am typing this now listening to 60db of fan noise for now real reason. I played a game for a little while with the Quiet preset set in XOC and the fan came on with the GPU temp at 38C and the fan speed in OSD stayed at 30 percent - no change. 30 is what it should be at based on the Quiet preset curves and it should not change until 60C.
     
    It really seems to me like the XOC software just doesn't work with the single fan hybrid version of the card. There is obviously some other decision making process going on with the fan that overrules anything the XOC software has configured. If all is quiet then I can use the manual sliders in XOC to turn on the fan as well as turn off the fan; however, if the fan comes on by itself then nothing i do through XOC seems to matter. What is extra puzzling is that I see no correlation at all between when the fan comes on and the 3 temperatures displayed in XOC. There is an observable correlation with the card working harder and the fan coming on because the issue will start when I am gaming and not when I am just working on my desktop. Once it comes on, even if I stop gaming, it usually stays on for an extended period of time even when back at the desktop. 
     
    This makes me wonder if it is somehow being triggered by the temp of the coolant as opposed to the temps I can see in XOC?
     
    I am a bit unhappy right now with this card and I know there is no way that I can live with the noise. Even my wife complains it about it as she can hear it from the living room.
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    Re: GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Gaming Card Fan Noise 2018/01/18 18:56:45 (permalink)
    Rma it.

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