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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/01/07 23:27:25 (permalink)
Too bad.  Thanks for putting in the work bcavnaugh.
 
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I see it like this, With current drivers, folding With GK104 is practically unsupported.
This is a huge drawback for reqruiting.
I think the GPU folding is the entrance to folding for most people.
When a new guy want to try this with his bright new and shiny 680 and with the newest driverset of corse, I'm not sure he gets addicted right away, not with the PPD he will see.
I beleive the most important donor reqruitment comes from gamers and their GPU's.



Orange_1050, I started folding last January when I got my 660 TI. So yeah, that's me.


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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/01/08 06:47:28 (permalink)
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Ok, I follow you closely.
A friend gave me Crysis3 today, I wouldn't mind upping my 327.23 a click or two to get all the eye candy.
 


I re-tested 327.23 today showed the same ETA was 15 Hours. I put  back on 326.80 and it is now back to 8 Hours and 25,000 PPD

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/01/08 06:48:23 (permalink)
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And now FH and NVIDIA Must Not be working to correct the driver problem for some of the older GTX 6xx and 760 770 cards this tells me that FH is really only supporting the newer GK110 and higher GPUs or is it NVIDIA Not?
Maybe AMD may Fold Better the NVDIA for the Money, I do not care for AMD so then that would lend to stop folding on GPUs.
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Ok THX bcavnaugh
I find this quite distubing.
I see it like this, With current drivers, folding With GK104 is practically unsupported.
This is a huge drawback for reqruiting.
I think the GPU folding is the entrance to folding for most people.
When a new guy want to try this with his bright new and shiny 680 and with the newest driverset of corse, I'm not sure he gets addicted right away, not with the PPD he will see.
I beleive the most important donor reqruitment comes from gamers and their GPU's.
 
I'm surprised why PG doesent put more effort in optimization and welcoming fresh folders who want to give their new GPU's a try, especially now when they have given a great deal of bigadv donors the sack.
  


You can add GK106 as well.

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/01/08 09:37:54 (permalink)
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You can add GK106 as well.


Definitivly, the GTX660 would actually be an even better example.
But apparently they welcome the 780Ti only. Not exactly the typical mainstream card out there.
 


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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/01/09 09:07:22 (permalink)
332.21 Folds well or OK on the GK110 GPU
Running 20% Foldit 1 x GTX Titan 0 Cores Driver 332.21 Slot 01 Uniprocessor 00:02:39 193931.2 (5.434 WUs) 03:32:00 ZETA 17 P8900 (R67, C2, G58) 35688.7


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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/02/18 08:04:16 (permalink)
Now Testing Driver 334.89
Status Progress Name TPF PPD Wus ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 1% Testing Driver 334.89 GTX 660Ti Slot 00 00:09:47 27474.5 1.472 16:08:33 ZETA 17 P8900 (R806, C1, G79) 18666.1
Running 5% Testing Driver 334.89 GTX 660Ti Slot 00 00:09:42 27739.4 1.485 15:21:30 ZETA 17 P8900 (R806, C1, G79) 18685.6
Running 12% Testing Driver 334.89 GTX 660Ti Slot 00 00:09:38 28050.7 1.495 14:07:44 ZETA 17 P8900 (R806, C1, G79) 18765.4

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/02/18 13:58:07 (permalink)
So no good news from driver 334.89!
 
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/02/18 21:20:09 (permalink)
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So no good news from driver 334.89!
 
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No, no good news for GTX 6xx and 750/760/770.
16+ Hours for 18,000 Credits
I am hoping that I get one 9401 in about 3 hours to see what it come back with, 33 hours is my guess.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/02/19 06:52:00 (permalink)
 334.89 Driver 
So as with the last unnumbered Drivers from NVIDIA we are still left in the dust for GK106 and below GPU.
Not sure if any one has the GK107 GPU or a GT 640 to see how well new drivers work with them.
Good Reference for GTX 6xx and what GPU they have in them as far as GK/GF. For 7xx Reference
So I would think that for Folding GTX 780 or GK110 or higher are best and for Crunching it seems that really any GPU and Driver works well. I see no point in testing anymore NVIDIA Drivers for the GTX 6xx Cards that include the GTX 760 and 770 card.
I wonder how the New GTX 750 & 750Ti will do?

Folding and Crunching Onward and Upward.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/14 11:55:21 (permalink)
 335.23 Driver 
GTX 660Ti, 1.09:05:16 1 Day 9 Hours not what I would say is a good Folding Driver.
 
Status Progress Name TPF PPD ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit Running 3% GTX 660Ti Slot 00 00:20:28 31772.4 (0.704 WUs) 1.09:05:16 ZETA 17 P13000 (R475, C2, G0) 45158

 
Glad I did not get a Core 15 P8018 it would have taken 3 days.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 05:11:19 (permalink)
I never tested the Driver 326.80 on the GTX 780 so I started testing today.
Under Driver 335.23 Video Card EVGA GTX 780 03G-P4-2781-KR on Water 3 each.
Status Progress Name TPF PPD WUs ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 80% GTX 780 335.23 Slot 00 00:05:49 163690.5 2.476 01:56:20 ZETA 17 P9401 (R992, C0, G18) 66120.3
Running 90% GTX 780 335.23 Slot 01 00:06:22 143002.8 2.262 01:03:40 ZETA 17 P9401 (R942, C0, G37) 63225.8
Running 9% GTX 780 335.23 Slot 02 00:06:17 144740.3 2.292 09:31:47 ZETA 17 P9401 (R262, C0, G53) 63156.3

 
Under Driver 326.80 Video Card EVGA GTX 780 03G-P4-2781-KR on Water 3 each.
Status Progress Name TPF PPD WUs ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 29% GTX 780 326.80 Slot 00 00:06:41 131701.8 2.155 07:54:31 ZETA 17 P9401 (R383, C0, G38) 61125.5
Running 32% GTX 780 326.80 Slot 01 00:07:47 104823.7 1.85 08:49:16 ZETA 17 P9401 (R595, C0, G39) 56658.2
Running 56% GTX 780 326.80 Slot 02 00:06:50 125894.0 2.107 05:00:40 ZETA 17 P9401 (R262, C0, G53) 59741.4

Driver 326.80 seem to not work well with the GTX 780.
Moving on to Driver 327.23 now then on to 331.82.
 
Under Driver 327.23 Video Card EVGA GTX 780 03G-P4-2781-KR on Water 3 each.
Status Progress Name TPF PPD WUs ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 47% GTX 780 327.23 Slot 00 00:06:46 126583 2.128 05:58:38 ZETA 17 P9401 (R383, C0, G38) 59482.3
Running 47% GTX 780 327.23 Slot 01 00:07:55 100295.1 1.819 06:59:35 ZETA 17 P9401 (R595, C0, G39) 55139.1
Running 73% GTX 780 327.23 Slot 02 00:06:57 120369.9 2.072 03:07:39 ZETA 17 P9401 (R262, C0, G53) 58095.2

 
 
Under Driver 331.82 Video Card EVGA GTX 780 03G-P4-2781-KR on Water 3 each 
Status Progress Name TPF PPD WUs ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 57% GTX 780 331.82Slot 00 00:06:21 144366.6 2.268 04:33:03 ZETA 17 P9401 (R389, C0, G43) 63661.6
Running 54% GTX 780 331.82 Slot 01 00:05:34 175887.4 2.587 04:16:04 ZETA 17 P9401 (R1123, C0, G42) 67993.5
Running 76% GTX 780 331.82 Slot 02 00:06:25 142122.4 2.244 02:34:00 ZETA 17 P9401 (R482, C0, G37) 63330
 
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 07:51:48 (permalink)
bcavnaugh From other thread in 600 forum
You have a GTX 680 FTW 4Gb per your (+1) so this driver will not fold well on older GK107 GPUs. Use 327.23 but on my GTX 680s I am seeing issues, have used 326.80 for a while and will return to using 326.80.
I works well on GTX 780 or GK110 and above. Also see http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2130281
 
Also Core 15 P8018 is only a 5757 Credits no mater what GPU you have.
 


 
Yes I do my mods rig page is up-to-date.
 
The issue really is that I also game on this machine and cannot reap the benefits of the new drivers without loss of folding performance
I know the 15's are fixed credits but they seem to be unaffected by the new drivers and fold the same tpf which ever driver is running
 
Under the new driver I can't even meet the 50k ppd for the bucks and so HAVE no choice but to run the older driver
 
Current stats from my folding under the new driver are wild ;) I've just looked and my tpf has doubled since the last frame LOL
 
anyway

14:04:44:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 1700000 out of 5000000 steps (34%)
14:22:26:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 1750000 out of 5000000 steps (35%)
14:40:09:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 1800000 out of 5000000 steps (36%)
 
Was ppd of ~22k now telling me ppd of 10k (****)

 
 
 
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 07:58:07 (permalink)
Infact my folding rig in the bedroom is running a 550ti and is getting better ppd on core 15
 
12:51:37:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  30000000 out of 40000000 steps (75%).
13:03:32:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  30400000 out of 40000000 steps (76%).
13:15:27:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  30800000 out of 40000000 steps (77%).
13:27:21:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  31200000 out of 40000000 steps (78%).
13:39:16:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  31600000 out of 40000000 steps (79%).
13:51:11:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  32000000 out of 40000000 steps (80%).
14:03:06:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  32400000 out of 40000000 steps (81%).
14:15:00:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  32800000 out of 40000000 steps (82%).
14:26:55:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  33200000 out of 40000000 steps (83%).
14:38:50:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  33600000 out of 40000000 steps (84%).
14:50:45:WU01:FS00:0x15:Completed  34000000 out of 40000000 steps (85%).

 
17030 PPD
 
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 09:14:05 (permalink)
LOL triple post
 
put driver 327.23 back on and ppd now 66k
 
15:22:43:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 1900000 out of 5000000 steps (38%)
15:32:05:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 1950000 out of 5000000 steps (39%)
15:41:26:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 2000000 out of 5000000 steps (40%)
15:50:43:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 2050000 out of 5000000 steps (41%)
15:59:58:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 2100000 out of 5000000 steps (42%)
16:09:21:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 2150000 out of 5000000 steps (43%)

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 10:53:56 (permalink)
Dwarfy not sure how well 327.23 runs for Games, I have seen some users switch back and forth but that is a lot of extra work.

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/15 13:53:44 (permalink)
Well you can't run bf4 on 327.23 and shadowplay doesn't work either.
 
Tbh I mostly play dayz lately and 327.23 is fine for that but I prefer shadowplay to fraps as sp will grab 10mins from before you activate where as I have to have fraps recording and thus am likely to miss the thing I want to record.
 
It's quite annoying that nvidia have let something as important as folding lapse so far either that or they don't care about previous generation users with would sadden me deeply due to a real lack of improvements that would encourage me to upgrade.
As I'd have to get at least a 770 to match performance in games, there are no real incentives like wanting to play a certain game that won't work on my current hardware.
 
Thing is I can only see this getting worse once maxwell really starts getting released, perhaps even then the 7xx series will start to suffer too.
 
I can't help but wonder what things are like on the red team as the green is not taking care of the end users too well
 
I wish EVGA made red as well as green then I wouldn't feel so bad as I could stay with my favorite manufacturer and leave Nvidia til they sort there stuff out
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/16 10:47:05 (permalink)
Not part of my Driver testing for older GK107 and below cards but I wanted to test out my new GTX 780 Video Cards.
EVGA GTX 780 03G-P4-2781-KR under Water and Now Running Under Driver 331.82
But 335.23 is so I am back on 335.23 for my GTX 780.
Status Progress Name TPF PPD WUs ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 57% GTX 780 331.82Slot 00 00:06:21 144366.6 2.268 04:33:03 ZETA 17 P9401 (R389, C0, G43) 63661.6
Running 54% GTX 780 331.82 Slot 01 00:05:34 175887.4 2.587 04:16:04 ZETA 17 P9401 (R1123, C0, G42) 67993.5
Running 76% GTX 780 331.82 Slot 02 00:06:25 142122.4 2.244 02:34:00 ZETA 17 P9401 (R482, C0, G37) 63330

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/16 11:30:18 (permalink)
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I wish EVGA made red as well as green then I wouldn't feel so bad as I could stay with my favorite manufacturer and leave Nvidia til they sort there stuff out


If they did we may suffer in that they may stop making Water Cooled GPU's and Even the Hydro Coppers to boot.
I think the issue is more FAH is Not Doing well in writing Projects that are targeted to the correct GPU/Driver for the End User. 

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/16 11:51:45 (permalink)
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I wish EVGA made red as well as green then I wouldn't feel so bad as I could stay with my favorite manufacturer and leave Nvidia til they sort there stuff out


If they did we may suffer in that they may stop making Water Cooled GPU's and Even the Hydro Coppers to boot.
I think the issue is more FAH is Not Doing well in writing Projects that are targeted to the correct GPU/Driver for the End User. 




 
Well hopefully they figure it out and prevent this from happening again if it strictly is FAH's issue.  It has been about 6 months since a driver was released that will work with non-GK110 units.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/16 14:45:21 (permalink)
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I wish EVGA made red as well as green then I wouldn't feel so bad as I could stay with my favorite manufacturer and leave Nvidia til they sort there stuff out


If they did we may suffer in that they may stop making Water Cooled GPU's and Even the Hydro Coppers to boot.
I think the issue is more FAH is Not Doing well in writing Projects that are targeted to the correct GPU/Driver for the End User. 




 
Well hopefully they figure it out and prevent this from happening again if it strictly is FAH's issue.  It has been about 6 months since a driver was released that will work with non-GK110 units.


I would think that it is as we do not really see this issue on GPUGRID on the Crunching Side.
At least I have not seen Crunching issues with NVIDIA Graphic Cards.

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/16 17:42:48 (permalink)
327.23 is  But 326.80 is  so I am back on 326.80 now on my GTX 680.
 
Status Progress Name TPF PPD ETA Core Core ID Project (Run, Clone, Gen) Credit
Running 20% Foldit 3 x GTX 680 Class Crunching 3 Cores Slot 00 00:07:00 124732.7 (2.057 WUs) 09:20:00 ZETA 17 P9401 (R1051, C0, G47) 60634
Running 4% Foldit 3 x GTX 680 Class Crunching 3 Cores Slot 01 00:06:52 128383.1 (2.097 WUs) 10:59:12 ZETA 17 P9401 (R1123, C0, G43) 61219.7
Running 94% Foldit 3 x GTX 680 Class Crunching 3 Cores Slot 02 00:07:48 106043.8 (1.846 WUs) 00:46:48 ZETA 17 P9401 (R375, C0, G37) 57440.4

 
Will update after Slot 2 gets a new Project.
 
Update, sorry I missed my update but now my Rig is down so no update.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/21 11:19:46 (permalink)
I finally after 3 months of asking got a response from the forum
 
https://forums.geforce.co.../post/4162030/#4162030
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/22 12:28:42 (permalink)
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I finally after 3 months of asking got a response from the forum
 
https://forums.geforce.co.../post/4162030/#4162030


That is nice, but they have been telling us this for months now.
Summer is around the corner now and I will bring down most of my Folding rigs until Late Fall.
Maybe by then NVIDIA and F A H will have this issue fixed.

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/22 15:23:37 (permalink)
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I finally after 3 months of asking got a response from the forum
 
https://forums.geforce.co.../post/4162030/#4162030


That is nice, but they have been telling us this for months now.



This is true.  Even for part-time folders or those who just like to game once in awhile, they are unable to play some of the newer games due to this driver issue.  BF4 comes to mind instantly.  Taking 6 months to resolve this issue bouncing back and forth between the project and nvidia as to who's to blame is ridiculous.  I don't call that "working with nvidia to find a solution".  They've been using that in getting them to work on OpenCL 1.2 support and JIT for a year now.  I don't hold my breath on them anymore, but then again we all know when it comes to FAH project things move excruciating slow.
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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/23 01:55:29 (permalink)
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I'm surprised why PG doesent put more effort in optimization and welcoming fresh folders who want to give their new GPU's a try, especially now when they have given a great deal of bigadv donors the sack.



Surely this is Nvidia driver issue, right? I mean, using the older driver gives good results? :)
Obviously sucks if you wanna game, but for my dedicated folders it's just wait-and-see..

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/23 08:32:46 (permalink)
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I'm surprised why PG doesent put more effort in optimization and welcoming fresh folders who want to give their new GPU's a try, especially now when they have given a great deal of bigadv donors the sack.



Surely this is Nvidia driver issue, right? I mean, using the older driver gives good results? :)
Obviously sucks if you wanna game, but for my dedicated folders it's just wait-and-see..


Each side is saying the other side, so it is a loop that never ends.
Why I think it is more on the F A H side of the house is the same with any software or projects.
Not all programs will run well on all computers so the software would need to change with new and old computers.
I look at as F A H projects run on what at the time they are writing the Project so that would then mean that they should release a newer version of the same Project to support newer hardware as well support the older hardware, as F A H states you should not buy new hardware to fold. Other software items I can think of is target the GPU type other than ATI and NVIDIA but maybe down to the chip level as with NVIDIA GK106/GK107 -v- GK110 and now the Maxwell Architecture. F A H should be keeping up with NVIDIA why because NVIDIA needs to keep moving forwards to support the Gamers and Applications for the end users. True NVIDIA could release per CPU a special Folding and Crunching Driver too.

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Re: Folding Rig to test out NVIDIA Drivers 2014/03/23 09:28:10 (permalink)
Well, I guess the only 100% true fact is that I cannot write this software myself :)
So THANX A LOT for doing this driver testing, bcavnaugh!

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