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Thursday, January 07, 2021 3:26 PM
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So this is a bit of a rant, but I am quite frustrated.
I appreciate that EVGA offers RMA. My 3090 ftw ultra is just a little over 1.5 month old. Randomly died over the weekend ran through simple support and they agreed to RMA. So far this is great. What I am having a hard time understanding is why I had to drop $80 to ship back a card that broke due to EVGA parts and product and nothing I did. On top of that since I’m just outside the 30 day window I will likely be getting a refurbished 3090. I think EVGA is a great company and had a prior card by EVGA that is going 5+ years strong (being used now in the system while I wait) which is why I went with them again. I am quite annoyed to paying almost $2000 for a video card and then having to pay more to return and get a refurbished one when the card failed so quickly and by no fault of mine. (EVGA has my money this go around, but this seriously has me reconsidering the brand for future purchases)
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 4:15 PM
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Try being in the UK. To send my faulty card back to Germany (with insurance for the full value of the card) is about double the cost that you have to pay. I don't think ever I've had to pay shipping before for a product that was defective, only in the case that it's an unwanted item and is returned. My card died within 30 days so was able to ask for a full refund and purchase elsewhere. How does it work across the pond? Can you send it back to the retailer to then send to EVGA? Out of interest what is the defect?
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 4:34 PM
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In the US, EVGA does advanced RMAs. They send you the new card with a shipping label.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 5:29 PM
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flyingtoaster85 In the US, EVGA does advanced RMAs. They send you the new card with a shipping label.
Not always. My first one did not provide a shipping label. My second will. I am hoping to receive my third card in the next few days
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 5:31 PM
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I certainly was not given a shipping label. I was given a label that clearly stated needed to be affixed to the box, but that this is not a shipping label.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 5:44 PM
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This is really tough one. We like EVGA for # of reasons and expect them to pay for all those bad cards would hurt them and we don't want that. At the same time, seen how many bad cards are sent back and forth to the same customers, It’s not fair either, especially when you already paying premium for their cards, so there should be some sort of compromise e.g. if the same customer has to resent his card that should be completely covered by EVGA, no questions asked.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 5:45 PM
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What card do you have and it failed you twice already?
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 5:46 PM
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johnlz I certainly was not given a shipping label. I was given a label that clearly stated needed to be affixed to the box, but that this is not a shipping label.
That is not an advanced RMA. Advanced RMA is a service purchased at the time of registration that makes it so EVGA can send a card to you before your old card is taken out of your system. For Advanced RMA’s, a hold is placed on a credit card for the full price of the GPU, until the old GPU is returned in case a user decides not to return the old/broken product. This is typically the only option that comes with a shipping label that is pre-paid. There is also cross ship RMA, where EVGA sends a card to you while you send a card back to them. They would also place a hold on a credit card for this process, if I am not mistaken, but the end user still pays for the shipping of the old card. The last option is the one you went with more than likely, and that is a standard RMA, where you ship the card back to EVGA, they process the return, and then send out the replacement.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 6:48 PM
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johnlz I certainly was not given a shipping label. I was given a label that clearly stated needed to be affixed to the box, but that this is not a shipping label.
That is not an advanced RMA. Advanced RMA is a service purchased at the time of registration that makes it so EVGA can send a card to you before your old card is taken out of your system. For Advanced RMA’s, a hold is placed on a credit card for the full price of the GPU, until the old GPU is returned in case a user decides not to return the old/broken product. This is typically the only option that comes with a shipping label that is pre-paid.
There is also cross ship RMA, where EVGA sends a card to you while you send a card back to them. They would also place a hold on a credit card for this process, if I am not mistaken, but the end user still pays for the shipping of the old card.
The last option is the one you went with more than likely, and that is a standard RMA, where you ship the card back to EVGA, they process the return, and then send out the replacement.
Not sure how you get that as registration as I never saw that as an option.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 7:09 PM
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If you registered your card within 30 days, you are given the option to purchase advanced RMA: https://www.evga.com/support/ear/If you register your card within 90 days, you are given the option to purchase the extended warranty plans. Many people click past these are they incur extra fees, and members just see an extra cost and scroll past it, or the registration takes place after the prescribed timeframes. Both pages automatically populate upon registration, and require the member to click continue to proceed past them, within the prescribed timeframes. This can also be affected by countries that do not have the same programs. A member in a country with the options would not see the options, so it may be based on your location as well.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 7:23 PM
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- EAR is only available to the original owner of the product.
- Currently EAR is ONLY available to residents in the contiguous "lower 48" United States.
- EAR is NOT available in Alaska, Hawaii, military deployment PO boxes, Canada or Mexico.
- EVGA bucks are not allowed to be used in the purchase of an EAR plan.
Looks like anyone not in the "lower 48" US (out of curiosity, which states are not in that list?) is out of luck, along with everyone else who isn't in the US. I've heard good things about EVGA and customer service, but considering how EVGA seems to be treating the rest of the world makes me wonder if I should trust them with my money.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 7:37 PM
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EVGA is a US based company.
Lower 48 reference to continental states, Alaska and Hawaii are not continental states.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:01 PM
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I'm in Canada. Advanced RMA is for the us only. I was standard Rma. They charged my credit card for a new kingpin. They shipped it to me. I recieved an email with a shipping label and 3 copies of documents for Customs. I packed up the kingpin I was returning defective and paid nothing at the ups store I dropped it off at. My new card arrived. My old was received by EVGA. They approved my credit card getting refunded the cost of the replacement card within the next few days. That's how standard Rma works.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:37 PM
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ds760 I'm in Canada. Advanced RMA is for the us only. I was standard Rma. They charged my credit card for a new kingpin. They shipped it to me. I recieved an email with a shipping label and 3 copies of documents for Customs. I packed up the kingpin I was returning defective and paid nothing at the ups store I dropped it off at. My new card arrived. My old was received by EVGA. They approved my credit card getting refunded the cost of the replacement card within the next few days. That's how standard Rma works.
That sounds like a cross ship RMA, not standard. With standard RMA your card goes back to EVGA and you do not have a hold placed on your credit card. https://www.evga.com/warranty/rmaprocess/While it is labeled “standard cross ship” for some reason, it is not standard, it is cross ship.
post edited by the_Scarlet_one - Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:40 PM
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:40 PM
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Cross ship. Sure. Standard was what the costumer service rep called it but makes sense its cross ship. It's also not a hold. It's a charge to your credit card. Then it's credit back at a different exchange rate.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 9:18 PM
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the_Scarlet_one EVGA is a US based company.
Lower 48 reference to continental states, Alaska and Hawaii are not continental states.
It has been a while since I have looked at a map but as far as I know Alaska is still a part of the North American continent. The phrase that you would want to use is : 48 contiguous states or 48 conterminous states.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 9:29 PM
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ds760 I'm in Canada. Advanced RMA is for the us only. I was standard Rma. They charged my credit card for a new kingpin. They shipped it to me. I recieved an email with a shipping label and 3 copies of documents for Customs. I packed up the kingpin I was returning defective and paid nothing at the ups store I dropped it off at. My new card arrived. My old was received by EVGA. They approved my credit card getting refunded the cost of the replacement card within the next few days. That's how standard Rma works.
They paid for the return label? How did you get them to swing that? The last time I did a standard cross ship I had to pay for return shipping.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 9:37 PM
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They just emailed me a return shipping label and customs documents. Didn't have to do anything. Why should I pay for shipping a defective product back?
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:22 PM
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the_Scarlet_one EVGA is a US based company.
Lower 48 reference to continental states, Alaska and Hawaii are not continental states.
It has been a while since I have looked at a map but as far as I know Alaska is still a part of the North American continent. The phrase that you would want to use is : 48 contiguous states or 48 conterminous states.
Sorry, was in a rush and put the wrong thing lol, thank you for the assist.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:35 PM
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Don't you have to pay for EAR though? So it is the same as paying for shipping yourself. But the kicker is that you have to buy EAR within 30 days before you know you need to even RMA.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:37 PM
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No I'm in Canada I can't even get that. I called and they even upgraded the shipping of the new card to overnight. EVGA always has great RMA service.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:40 PM
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johnlz What card do you have and it failed you twice already?
Not sure if you were asking me but mine have been the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. I am waiting for my third now
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Saturday, January 09, 2021 12:37 AM
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Advanced RMA = Go ahead and pay for the shipping in advance. It is also one time use. So if you want that service on the replacement card, go ahead and pay for shipping in advance on it as well.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Saturday, January 09, 2021 2:05 PM
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I was charged 200 EUR to send my RMA card from Greece to Germany. Cross ship RMA would technically mean that I should have extra cash at bank to do it to begin with which at the time I didn't so there you go. I mean, I do appreciate that they ve sent me a brand new sealed card but honestly having to pay 200 EUR for something that was NOT my fault...
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:42 PM
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johnlz So this is a bit of a rant, but I am quite frustrated.
I appreciate that EVGA offers RMA. My 3090 ftw ultra is just a little over 1.5 month old. Randomly died over the weekend ran through simple support and they agreed to RMA. So far this is great. What I am having a hard time understanding is why I had to drop $80 to ship back a card that broke due to EVGA parts and product and nothing I did. On top of that since I’m just outside the 30 day window I will likely be getting a refurbished 3090. I think EVGA is a great company and had a prior card by EVGA that is going 5+ years strong (being used now in the system while I wait) which is why I went with them again. I am quite annoyed to paying almost $2000 for a video card and then having to pay more to return and get a refurbished one when the card failed so quickly and by no fault of mine. (EVGA has my money this go around, but this seriously has me reconsidering the brand for future purchases)
I don't understand - are you seriously telling me that they don't email you a return shipping label for RMAs? WTAF? Crazy. If it's not, then it should be the law that companies are not allowed to make customers pay for shipping their defective product back for replacement? ds760 I'm in Canada. Advanced RMA is for the us only. I was standard Rma. They charged my credit card for a new kingpin. They shipped it to me. I recieved an email with a shipping label and 3 copies of documents for Customs. I packed up the kingpin I was returning defective and paid nothing at the ups store I dropped it off at. My new card arrived. My old was received by EVGA. They approved my credit card getting refunded the cost of the replacement card within the next few days. That's how standard Rma works.
(My bold for emphasis) Now that is how I thought RMA works, I don't understand why some people are posting that they had to pay for return shipping?!? Gogod2020 I was charged 200 EUR to send my RMA card from Greece to Germany. Cross ship RMA would technically mean that I should have extra cash at bank to do it to begin with which at the time I didn't so there you go.
I mean, I do appreciate that they ve sent me a brand new sealed card but honestly having to pay 200 EUR for something that was NOT my fault...
Not only is that unethical business practice, it should be illegal. ds760 They just emailed me a return shipping label and customs documents. Didn't have to do anything. Why should I pay for shipping a defective product back?
You shouldn't - that's exactly how an RMA should work!
post edited by critofur - Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:48 PM
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:30 PM
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critofur ...
I think the majority of consumers would agree. It is even legally required in some countries. Not legally required in other countries. If we live in a country where it is not legally required for the manufacturer to pay for the return shipping on the defective item, what can we do? How do you propose that we convince EVGA to change its policy? If your video card is broken and the cheapest way to replace it is to pay for shipping, you are going to pay for the shipping, right? What is your alternative? Sue EVGA?
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:34 PM
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I believe you don't have to pay shipping if you pay for the extended warranty..
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Monday, January 24, 2022 10:49 PM
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I got the label - but no one at UPS store could tell me if the label includes insurance. I assume it doesn't. I refuse to ship without insurance with ~4.5k (inflated based on how much these cards cost on ebay atm I assume) in collateral hanging on delivery. Anyone know if the return label in US includes insurance? I assume it does not. And you can't add it on - UPS wants you to pay for whole new label. Edit: Ok NM. Just talked to EVGA support - the label has insurance on it and if there is a problem with delivery they take care of it on their end. On customer end - just drop it off at UPS.
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Re: EVGA RMA 3090 - Why must I pay shipping when your product is defective
Monday, January 24, 2022 11:00 PM
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ds760 No I'm in Canada I can't even get that. I called and they even upgraded the shipping of the new card to overnight. EVGA always has great RMA service.
Perhaps if you spend $3kto $3.5k CDN on a kp !!! My RMA 3080Ti FTW3 was also standard RMA....no paid shipping label, cost me $120 CDN to ship a 2 month old defective Card to Brea Cal.. straight down the westcoast from Van Isle...n received a "previously defective / refurb" Card in return (w absolutely no history). Granted I "only" paid retail for the 3080Ti at $1700 CDN... Been purchasing Evga Cards since perhaps 2003.....things have certainly changed over the years, basically there current Warranty and RMA policy is no different then ASUS.and many other GPU brands....at least when I RMA'd a defective Asus Motherboard (Rampage IV-Extreme) they paid for the shipping AND sent me a bnib Board....think the Board was 2-3 months olds....all standard 3 yr warranty..same as Evga. Unlike the days when AX Cards were "Lifetime Warranty".....n fck'in around back then...and if your Card died they didnt send you a friggin rebuilt Card...they sent you a bnib model equivalent (or greater) than what you sent back....... Oh well...there is always Strix ;)
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