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AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade | TechRadar Both AMD and Nvidia’s next-gen flagship graphics cards could be seriously power-hungry, at least if the latest gossip from the grapevine proves to be true. 3DCenter has been on another rumor-collecting trawl, as picked up by VideoCardz, and the tapped info from multiple hardware leakers (on Twitter and elsewhere) suggests that the top dog cards from what could turn out to be the RTX 4000 and RX 7000 ranges will pull in over 400W in terms of power demands – possibly well over. In a discussion on Twitter, both kopite7kimi and Greymon55 agree that 400W will likely be exceeded by Nvidia’s next flagship GPU, and we could even be looking at possibly reaching a power consumption of 450W or even up towards 500W according to the latter leaker. This is just speculation, of course, so give all this a healthy coating of skepticism with the rumor brush, but it certainly points the way to some serious wattage demands from Team Green – and the same is purportedly true for rival Team Red. AMD’s RDNA 3 flagship is supposedly shaping up to be quite the beast, but it may have a serious appetite for Watts, too. As 3DCenter points out, Bondrewd reckons that AMD’s next-gen card won’t hit 500W, but with clues that leaker left as to the size of the chiplets (remember, the flagship RDNA 3 product is rumored to use a pair of GPUs), 3DCenter has guessed that the card could pull around 450W. Elsewhere, though, there are whispers that AMD’s card could hit more like 350W (but that’s still a good chunk more than the RX 6900 XT’s 300W TDP). Bondrewd also indicated that the Nvidia flagship will have a greater power consumption than 450W. Whichever way you dice it, if any of this theorizing and rumor peddling is near the mark, both next-gen flagships are going to be seriously demanding power-wise. Watts really could be problematic if we’re looking at 400W to 450W of power draw for the top-tier next-gen graphics cards. The current Ampere beast of a flagship, Nvidia’s RTX 3090, pulls 350W, and as we already mentioned, the RX 6900 XT chugs down 300W. And here’s the thing – at those levels, the 6900 XT comes with a minimum recommended power supply of 850W. The RTX 3090 has a recommendation from Nvidia of a minimum of a 750W PSU, and remember that really, with such beefy GPUs, ideally you want to be running a considerably higher wattage than that in your power supply just to be safe and leave a good amount of headroom. As we observed in our GeForce RTX 3090 review, the card actually consumed a maximum of 357W, and we recommended a full-on 1,000W PSU just to be really safe in any situation. Now, think of what kind of PSU requirements we’re going to be looking at in the future if these next-gen rumors are right. GPUs with this kind of massive power draw make it not just a simple matter of upgrading your graphics card when you want a new one, but also probably upgrading your power supply, at extra cost and inconvenience. A PSU upgrade is more complex than switching out a card or memory stick, and a bit of a faff involving more than a few cables – not something the less tech-confident gamers out there will particularly enjoy. Of course, we’ll have to see how the power requirements actually pan out, but this sounds rather ominous (for your electricity bill, too). It will be interesting to see if next gen flagship video cards will need more power.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 3:05 PM
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Never thought I would reach a point that I would need to put in a dedicated 15A circuit to run our computers. Other than our 30A circuits, we should have run 20A (12ga) Romex throughout when we built this house.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 3:16 PM
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Looking/Winking at my EVGA 1200w Platinum PSU, you got this😏😁
T hose who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags! The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way. Affiliate Code: 3T15O1S07G
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 7:10 PM
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I have a 1000 watt Corsair PSU so I'm a bit future-proofed just in case this rumor is true.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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until they switch power connectors or we will start splicing pcie power plugs into one new standard plug like on the 3090 FE
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 7:18 PM
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Looking at my cases that can hold two PSUs. One on top one on the bottom. Just need the cable to turn them both on at the same time.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 8:40 PM
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rjohnson11 I have a 1000 watt Corsair PSU so I'm a bit future-proofed just in case this rumor is true.
😎👍. Hope you have a spare just in case. My spare is the 1st eva build EVGA CLASSIFIED 1600w PSU😲 I thought it was broken but when testing it i moved one of the switches of the PSU😅 without noticing🙄
T hose who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags! The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way. Affiliate Code: 3T15O1S07G
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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still have my 1000% trusty SeaSonic M12 700W old but gold! it never failed me! best 200€+ investment i made back in 2008 or 2009! It will have to be enough!
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Friday, July 30, 2021 9:54 PM
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I'll likely be ok, *IF* I decide to upgrade...which I may not. Retirement is coming...and honestly, the games don't thrill me anymore...data mining, ads, forced logins to launcher services (Steam, origin, epic)... and you morons all decided that crap was ok, so that's why they're doing it.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:12 AM
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Flint 1760 Never thought I would reach a point that I would need to put in a dedicated 15A circuit to run our computers. Other than our 30A circuits, we should have run 20A (12ga) Romex throughout when we built this house.
I did just that in the computer room but 20a breakers with 12g, full 20a receptacles also the two duplex wall plugs have different breaker for each side of the receptacle. 3D Mark 11 i7 960 EE gtx 580 sli on air that's mine to hold took two months. and 3 months later outdated ,go figure still hold it meh, but it was a mountain to climb. Now I have 1300w I think I,m good for awhile "Patience" Mod rig
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:33 AM
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Can take you over spec, and shove it.... Give us a real upgrade and supplies on the shelves, then we'll talk psu's...
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:25 AM
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Oof...well I just replaced my old 11-year old PSU earlier this year thinking an 850w should be plenty for years to come. I suspect I still *might* okay as long as I don't purchase the top-end models. If not, we'll see how the GPU shortages are looking at that point.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:23 AM
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O,O a bit testy, here > 108a single rail https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=120-g2-1300-xrstill using the corsair 1050 in the other rig longevity low heat in a system no debate run er wide open 3\4 IDC I know what whats worked and don't question myself on it.
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 4:11 PM
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atfrico Looking/Winking at my EVGA 1200w Platinum PSU, you got this😏😁
I think my EVGA 1600w G2 will be able to power through this
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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ManBearPig
atfrico Looking/Winking at my EVGA 1200w Platinum PSU, you got this😏😁
I think my EVGA 1600w G2 will be able to power through this 
Pure pwnage😁👍
T hose who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags! The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way. Affiliate Code: 3T15O1S07G
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:24 PM
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I've always went a little over the top with a gaming rig PSU. Been running a T2 Titanium EVGA PSU for more than a few years now, 1k watts. My 2009 Seasonic 650 is reaching EOL with capacitor use - daily rig. Just received a 1k watt replacement PSU for it. Both machines will be able to run games for 7+yrs
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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My HX1000i can handle any card out there, i learn long ago that elite video cards are very power hungry
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
Sunday, August 01, 2021 6:04 AM
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I wonder when the scalpers will buy out all the PSU's and mark them up along side the GPU's
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Re: AMD and Nvidia next-gen flagship GPUs could force you into a PSU upgrade
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revenantx02 I wonder when the scalpers will buy out all the PSU's and mark them up along side the GPU's
With the current state of things I'd say ohhh... about instantaneously
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