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Saturday, May 15, 2021 2:45 AM (permalink)
Hi,
 
What is going on here, GPU's in trouble?  You literally cannot find a GPU anywhere anymore.  My RTX2070 is ghosting on me during gameplay and I can't find a video card if my life depended on it.  Any word as to why this is happening?  The RTX 3 series came out and nowhere on the market to be found.  Why is that?  Will the GPU Industry ever bounce back or are we stuck with onboard GPU's?

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    ahsany
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:07 AM (permalink)
    Looks like you need lots of catching up to do ! ill summarize it !
     
    Miners were after all new cards and on top of that pandemic happened, people stayed in their homes, they had nothing to do but to do everything remotely, they bought more cpus and gpus, people who make cpus and gpus also stayed in home, less production more demand and lastly scalpers came into play, they took the few remaining gpus off the stores and put them on ebay for 2.5x profits !
     
    then you and me landed here with no gpus to find 
     
     
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    evgafan#x
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:12 AM (permalink)
    Silicon shortage coupled with ETH price skyrocketing. Add consumer demand for graphically intensive applications and you have what we are experiencing at this moment. It sucks but it is forecasted to get better eventually.

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    Blace
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:59 AM (permalink)
    ankido
    Will the GPU Industry ever bounce back or are we stuck with onboard GPU's?



    To add to what's been summed up already: the industry is obviously trying to increase production capacity and a few of them have solid plants that they've announced publicly. However a complex chip production factory isn't built in a day, so they expect those new fabs to be up and running around 2023 roughly. More short term solutions will probably bear fruit in 2022, like Sony's & TSMC's decision to produce the PS5 chip on a 6Nm node instead of 7, which will increase the yield per wafer produced, so more chips in the same amount of time and probably cost.
     
    Here in the EU large companies have made plans to be less dependant on foreign companies so we'll probably see more specialized production over here in the future. We do have ASML which has a near monopoly on the machines that create the actual chips, so these plans should be concrete.


    Now we should all just hope the pandemic will end soon, cause it aint helping things in the slightest :)
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    kaledorm1
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:41 AM (permalink)
    Perfect storm between crypto mining, overbooked fabs, component shortages, pandemic slowdowns, and surging demand.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Saturday, May 15, 2021 2:44 PM (permalink)
    - Limited fab capacity that is inflexible and has to be reserved for many months in advance.
    - Pandamic lockdowns causing issues in production worldwide, factories stopping due to pandamic.
    - Pandamic lockdowns causing issues with transport with border. GPUs are air-transported, competing with vaccines.
    - Pandamic lockdowns causing the richer half of the world suddenly having a population that is bored enough to turn to gaming and/or has to do home office/online schooling -> high demand.
    - General chip and electronics shortages
    - Mining of ETH, which is GPU-based, has taken off like mad in 2021. Eth has gone from 200$ in 2020 to 4000$ as of writing. Gamers are now competing with miners for cards. Miners can pay more because the price of the card will be returned, allowing distributors to double prices (at the minimum) and still sell out instantly. Scalpers have become aggressive due to the potential for high profits, increasing bot usage. While shortages were present in 2020 and likely persist even if ETH stops being profitable, the prices have gone crazy due to mining.
     
    My advice? Try to get a used card that you can test. Maybe a 1080. Forget anything beyond.
    post edited by Zixinus - Saturday, May 15, 2021 2:47 PM
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    jwad_
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Sunday, May 16, 2021 4:40 AM (permalink)
     
    It'll get better... It always does...
    In the meantime buy a used GPU preferably locally, and test it so you know it works. Otherwise buy a used card off eBay. eBay's got a pretty great customer service team, and a solid money-back guarantee. Occasionally you can find used mining cards up there for pretty cheap. My cousin got his hands on a Sapphire Nitro RX 580 8GB for only $70. It did have modified bios on it, but flashing it to stock bios is a moderately easy thing to do. A 580 might not be as good as your 2070, but it'll definitely be better in terms of value, and performance than a 1030 that's been marked up to double or triple its price.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Monday, May 17, 2021 8:04 PM (permalink)
    retailers need to get rid of the scalpers there the main problem those idiots are to stupid to even use the hardware
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Monday, May 17, 2021 9:47 PM (permalink)
    Yeah only solution is to stop buying from them!
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    hpak53
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Monday, May 17, 2021 10:06 PM (permalink)
    Wow.... how long have you been in a coma?.... lol.... the current situation started 9 months ago
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    maxknight
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Wednesday, May 19, 2021 1:38 PM (permalink)
    Between COVID and all the demand increases (mining, working from home, next gen consoles), things have been crazy.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Wednesday, May 19, 2021 1:45 PM (permalink)
    Everything is in turmoil.
    Look at the house market, here in Minnesota buyers must offer 20% over asking price in order to buy a house 
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Friday, May 21, 2021 3:34 AM (permalink)
    covid has made a mess of rational markets.
     
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    Ariyu Grey
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Friday, May 21, 2021 8:37 AM (permalink)
    It's not just the GPU industry, almost all areas that have to do with semiconductors are in dire straits right now, from cars to coffee machines, anything could become a problem.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Friday, May 21, 2021 11:10 AM (permalink)
    Yea i think main case is covid all home all starting play or new projects
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:05 PM (permalink)
    Your 2070 should be under warranty assuming it's a 3 year warranty.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Monday, May 24, 2021 8:23 PM (permalink)
    covid has messed up everything
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:01 PM (permalink)
    Damm scalpers...
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Monday, May 31, 2021 5:24 PM (permalink)
    covid, scalpers, miners, gamers, chip shortage -- it's a perfect storm of different causes. The chip shortage is affecting car manufacturing too.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Tuesday, June 01, 2021 10:13 PM (permalink)
    i believe the market is started to get saturated. I've been able to see 1650 super and 5700x at my local microcenter so I'm hoping within couple of months we would get any graphics card we want.
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Friday, June 04, 2021 6:12 PM (permalink)
    I'm still unable to locate a 1660 online for a friend. I would love a 3080Ti myself. The  market is a mess right now and isn't going to get any better until late 2022  
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Friday, June 04, 2021 6:55 PM (permalink)
    Is there any research out there that is looking at a project calming of the GPU market?
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Tuesday, June 08, 2021 10:45 PM (permalink)
    they definitely should limit all the cards going forward with possibly a patch later when the demand is met
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Tuesday, June 08, 2021 10:49 PM (permalink)
    i heard it won't be until at least mid 2022 that the industry starts to recover. 
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    Re: GPU Industry in turmoil? Tuesday, June 15, 2021 0:22 PM (permalink)
    i hate the mining but i can't blame them. money is money.
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