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http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-480-3way-sli-review/1 I think this is the first review of GTX 480 Tri-SLI that we've seen done by professional reviewers with a variety of games, so I think a lot of people might find the results to be interesting. The review is basically split into two parts, the first part covers 1x480 > 2x480 > 3x480 scaling at different resolutions. The overwhelming takeaway from these graphs are that 3xGTX 480 scaling right now is not good and simply not worthwhile unless you game at 2560x1600 or higher. Whether this is due to CPU bottlenecks or early drivers is unclear, Guru3D cites CPU bottlenecks but unfortunately they only tested with a 3.75GHz i7 965. It would be interesting if they followed up with a faster CPU to see what kind of results would come from a higher overclock. The second part of the review compares 1x480 and 2x480 to 1x5870 and 2x5870. The overwhelming result is that GTX 480 outperforms the 5870 in both single GPU and multi-GPU configs in almost every result. Unfortunately they didn't test some more stressful resolutions and settings to further the gap, but its pretty clear Nvidia wins with single GPU and multi GPU. Given how poorly the third GTX 480 scales, its probable ATI would win in 3 and 4-way configs. The conclusion also emphasizes the power consumption and noise from 3-way SLI and as the results show, 3-way SLI clearly isn't worthwhile right now unless you are already running 2560x1600 or are planning to go with Nvidia Surround once it becomes available.
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
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I am not impressed by review, because it is not specified in games how it was tested (which location), it differst a lot in JC2 and Metro 2033.
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
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Yeah I read the whole thing. There're very few review sites that I trust but if I had to pick Guru3D would be on the top of the list. While Hagedoorn does make a VERY convincing argument for 480s in SLI (I'm probably going to set mine up soon, but still somewhat undecided), I felt as if the temperature dillemma on Page 28 was a bit ignored. And what is this about the latest GTX 480 BIOS revision and its ability to lower temps? He states a 10 degrees difference. Is it just a fan speed alteration?
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:17 AM
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wow.. a lot of fluff in there.. so many pages and very little data. It is useful to show up well the gtx 270/280s scale for 2560x1600. his numbers are much lower than what i'm getting. example 3d vantage.. he got 35k.. and i'm getting 46k (yeah, i'm OC'd.. non-OC'd i'm @ 41k)
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:21 AM
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zurvv wow.. a lot of fluff in there.. so many pages and very little data. Really? Did you skip pages 6 thru 25?
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:29 AM
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yep... unclear what was in fact being tested and to wasting pages. It was fine... and shows scale.. but a lot slower than what i'm seeing.
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:44 AM
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I am utterly shocked that they ran the review testing tri-SLI 480s with an i7 ONLY overclocked to 3.75Ghz! That does not do tri-SLI justice one single bit. It is a huge bottleneck, and it is evident in the graphs BIG TIME. Look at the differences between SLI and tri-SLI and 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 resolutions. In more CPU dependent titles, tri-SLI does NOT do much better than SLI @ 1920x1200 resolutions but when the CPU is somewhat taken out of play with those same titles @ 2560x1600, tri-SLI does A LOT better than SLI. They really should have had the rig running @ 4.2Ghz at least! Also, I may be blind, but I can't see what the ATI setup was comprised of and what clock speeds it was at for the 5870 comparisons towards the end of the review. I don't really trust Guru3D. After this review, I'm inclined to say that I don't put much faith in their expertise either. They should have known better than to CPU bottleneck the tri-SLI runs. Then, they have the audacity to say that other reviews run tri-SLI at bottlenecked CPU frequencies, but they aren't bottlenecking the 480s in their review The review gives off the idea that tri-SLI simply isn't worth it for resolution under 2560x1600, but it would have faired much better indeed if that i7 was at at least 4.2Ghz. I guarantee it!
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:39 AM
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Delfire "The latest BIOS revisions however show lower temperatures and noise levels." - http://www.guru3d.com/art...480-3way-sli-review/28 What revision is he talking about? A3? Would be nice if someone can clarify what this revision did... I saw that as well, while the article was interesting, that bit I think may have been the most important part of it.
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:55 PM
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Delfire Yeah I read the whole thing. There're very few review sites that I trust but if I had to pick Guru3D would be on the top of the list. While Hagedoorn does make a VERY convincing argument for 480s in SLI (I'm probably going to set mine up soon, but still somewhat undecided), I felt as if the temperature dillemma on Page 28 was a bit ignored. And what is this about the latest GTX 480 BIOS revision and its ability to lower temps? He states a 10 degrees difference. Is it just a fan speed alteration? I thought he did a pretty good job of emphasizing the difference in heat and power consumption without trying to sugar coat it. Its pretty obvious from both the benches and power consumption/heat benchmarks that 3xSLI simply is not worth it right now unless you run 2560+ as the performance and scaling simply doesn't justify it. As for the BIOS update, it was covered by Legit Reviews a bit, but it simply ramps up the fan a bit sooner in 2D so you don't idle at 80C, you idle at 60-70C if you run multi-monitors. It may more aggressively ramp up in 3D also, but I doubt it given my cards still wait until ~92-93C before they kick in to 70+% fan speed. The better alternative imo is to circumvent the poorly conceived auto fan profile and use AfterBurner to set the fanspeed more aggressively with AB's user-defined fan profile. In any case, you can see what BIOS revision you have by looking at the sticker on the back of your card, last two digits should be .02 instead of .00 for the newer BIOS with the revised fan profiles.
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Re:Guru3D GTX 480 3-Way SLI Review
Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:03 PM
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zurvv wow.. a lot of fluff in there.. so many pages and very little data. It is useful to show up well the gtx 270/280s scale for 2560x1600. his numbers are much lower than what i'm getting. example 3d vantage.. he got 35k.. and i'm getting 46k (yeah, i'm OC'd.. non-OC'd i'm @ 41k) Yeah he acknowledges the CPU bottlenecks though...not sure why he didn't use a faster CPU up around 4.0GHz, but overall I think its a fine balance of what people run OC vs. those who don't OC. There are people who will buy these CPUs and not overclock them at all. I'd love to see a follow-up where he used the fastest CPU he could get hold of, like a 980-X at 4.5GHz or something to see how much the CPU is bottlenecking performance if at all. I also found it interesting he mentioned in a few of the results that the x8/x8 in 3-way SLI may have had an impact on performance as well. It kind of reminds me of the original Tri-SLI benches Guru3D did with the 680i (3 x8 PCIe 1.0) and the 3rd GPU didn't scale well at all. Then they changed the platform to an i7 and x16/x8/x8 PCIe 2.0 effectively doubling bandwidth combined with the faster CPU and Tri-SLI scaled great. Its possible we're looking at another CPU/platform limitation again here, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of unoptimized drivers in 3-way and 4-way. Its clear 2-way SLI scales extremely well, near 100% in many cases and those aren't even GPU intensive resolutions or settings. Nvidia didn't even release an official 3-way and 4-way driver, they released one through EVGA that doesn't show up on Nvidia's download page. We may have to wait for the 256 series drivers until we see decent scaling beyond 2 cards in SLI.
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