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I'm here not to rant on EVGA, or the queue method (which I think is the best so far developed by any GPU brand or retailer), but to express my frustration with ... well... people. Look at this: According to this thread: https://forums.evga.com/Post-Your-RTX-3080-Ti-XC3-3070-Ti-XC3-Auto-Notify-Time-Elite-Members-First-24-Hours-Only-m3416207.aspxonly 19 people have reported receiving an email to buy the XC3 3080 Ti, but en eBay there are 41 listings already, plus those that were sold. Based on that I'm guessing that 75% or more of the queue just decided to scalp the graphics card. Of course I'm like 10 minutes away on the queue and I'm not going to get this card never because everyone knows XC3 models are extremely short runs of stock. I'm just so frustrated with people's greed man.. I can't find the right words to express it. Anyone else feeling the same?
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:40 AM
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to be honest I see scalpers prices all the time since the RTX 3080 released when a chip shortage and crypto boom has been going on while I'm trying to get a 3080 or 3080 Ti at msrp and it's disappointed, I'm luckily to get me a used 1080 Ti SC2 in excellent condition for $450 back in november 25 2020 before prices went way out of hand
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:46 AM
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but what can you do? you can't win with bots
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:18 AM
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I know that there is nothing that I can do to beat bots, I just wanted to express my frustration... there is a big chance that the XC3 3080 Ti queue freezes now, just like happened with the XC3 3080 and I'll never get that card
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:31 AM
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tyranus7 I know that there is nothing that I can do to beat bots, I just wanted to express my frustration... there is a big chance that the XC3 3080 Ti queue freezes now, just like happened with the XC3 3080 and I'll never get that card 
I feel ya there the queue list is getting longer not shorter it's like daaang man
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:41 AM
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Well the guy at the top of your list did offer you free 2 day shipping, you can't even get free shipping at evga anymore lol
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:43 AM
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I'm disgusted by gaming, graphics cards and tech companies all together. Started taking on other hobbies. I'm sure I'm not the first person to exit the customer base. Many more will probably never return. Congrats. Great business strategy.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 5:10 AM
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Honestly , I see nothing wrong with this . In this CoVid era people are desperate for money. Why not capitalize on profit while you can? It amazes me that people complain about crap like this but have no problems downloading torrents , bypassing windows cracks etc. A Hypocrite at its best... Ive recently sold several 2080 gpus to get my car fixed..did I increase the price a bit. ? Hell yeah I did. Id be stupid not to. It got my damn car fixed and I dont give a sh1t what anyone else thinks of me because of it. My family comes before a strangers ethical opinions....Dont let the world bother you.. Because the world doesnt give a crap about what your so called morals are.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 6:05 AM
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We don’t know how many people never reported their queue position. Perhaps a lot of cards went out already. Who knows? Don’t worry too much and just be patient
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 7:30 AM
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If it makes you feel any better I got one and am running it :)
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 7:41 AM
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Scalping happens because nvidia allows it, it's as simple as that. If they wanted to avoid it, they'd implement a system that would check if the card is used by the original buyer or not. Something like : - you need to create an nvidia account to buy a card, and this account has an official ID check. After purchased the card is linked to your account. - you need to login on an nvidia app (something like geforce experience) using your account to unlock the graphic driver. Kinda like you have to login to steam to play games. But the goal of nvidia like any company is to make money, once they sell their chip what happens after with them matter for them less than selling them, no matter what they say. "Geforce is for gamers" is just a marketing stunt to keep a good image to the public.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 8:05 AM
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Indonesia's price,
3090 is $3800 3080ti is 2000 3080 is $3000 3070 is 1600
And everything is SOLD OUT, except the 3070
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 8:17 AM
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Neutro Scalping happens because nvidia allows it, it's as simple as that. If they wanted to avoid it, they'd implement a system that would check if the card is used by the original buyer or not. Something like : - you need to create an nvidia account to buy a card, and this account has an official ID check. After purchased the card is linked to your account. - you need to login on an nvidia app (something like geforce experience) using your account to unlock the graphic driver. Kinda like you have to login to steam to play games. But the goal of nvidia like any company is to make money, once they sell their chip what happens after with them matter for them less than selling them, no matter what they say. "Geforce is for gamers" is just a marketing stunt to keep a good image to the public.
I'll be honest, I would rather have scalpers selling them at 2x price than hardware manufacturers forcing you to log in to get drivers.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 9:49 AM
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I'm with you TC. Some of us see what's going on. Some refuse to make excuses. It's extremely frustrating.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 10:16 AM
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In Europe pricing is probably higher based on what I've seen
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 11:19 AM
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First the queue thread doesn’t have every single person that entered the queue please stop relying on it like it’s 100% accurate. It’s more to give a general idea on your positioning.
Second what do you want anyone to do with the information provided in this thread? There’s no way to know if someone buying is buying to use or sell. The queue system imo has been the best system in this crisis.
On the bright side though, stock seems to be getting better overall and resell prices are dropping. So maybe by start of next year or even end of this year things will be looking better.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 11:22 AM
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Neutro Scalping happens because nvidia allows it, it's as simple as that. If they wanted to avoid it, they'd implement a system that would check if the card is used by the original buyer or not. Something like : - you need to create an nvidia account to buy a card, and this account has an official ID check. After purchased the card is linked to your account. - you need to login on an nvidia app (something like geforce experience) using your account to unlock the graphic driver. Kinda like you have to login to steam to play games. But the goal of nvidia like any company is to make money, once they sell their chip what happens after with them matter for them less than selling them, no matter what they say. "Geforce is for gamers" is just a marketing stunt to keep a good image to the public.
This is not a good idea. Why would anyone want a company tracking who uses their hardware and locking down the usage of something they paid for? This is honestly one of the worst ideas I’ve seen. And this prevents future reselling when the new series comes out, or for those people that maybe purchased a lesser card until they could get the one they actually wanted.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 2:06 PM
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I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:16 PM
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fdisessa I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
I take offense to this because I want/need 4 (FOUR) cards. We are a family of 4 avid gamers and each of us need one to update our computers.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:23 PM
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fdisessa I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
I take offense to this because I want/need 4 (FOUR) cards. We are a family of 4 avid gamers and each of us need one to update our computers.
No offense meant. You can get around that if each of you would have your own EVGA profiles? Assuming each one has a computer. You can also benefit with each others codes.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:34 PM
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fdisessa I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
I take offense to this because I want/need 4 (FOUR) cards. We are a family of 4 avid gamers and each of us need one to update our computers.
you should re-evaluate the difference between NEED and WANT. no one "needs" a GPU to survive.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:36 PM
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mlittle71
fdisessa I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
I take offense to this because I want/need 4 (FOUR) cards. We are a family of 4 avid gamers and each of us need one to update our computers.
No offense meant. You can get around that if each of you would have your own EVGA profiles? Assuming each one has a computer. You can also benefit with each others codes.
(Deleted for Personal Attack) And to your responding post, only 1 card per household, so your family can not buy a card if done under your proposal. You also can not use the code of someone at the same address as you. You have been here since 2014 and don't know this?
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:41 PM
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fdisessa I would like to think that the main purpose of the EVGA elite queue is to get a card in someone's hands (for what ever purpose). In all fairness -> once you have a yes in the queue and you buy that card then EVGA should cancel the rest of your notifies to let someone else have a chance at a card.
I take offense to this because I want/need 4 (FOUR) cards. We are a family of 4 avid gamers and each of us need one to update our computers.
No offense meant. You can get around that if each of you would have your own EVGA profiles? Assuming each one has a computer. You can also benefit with each others codes.
Yes but wont that possibly cause issues entering multiple queues on different profiles from the same location? Its hard enough entering on one profile (last Wednesday was a nightmare). Truthfully, I doubt EVGA will work for us anyway. I hear Microcenter has changed there policy for getting cards, its now a raffle process. I'm going to have to take a couple of vacation days and enter their raffles in the mornings. Even then, I can only get one every 30 days. Families have more than one computer these days so not quite fair but I can see why they do it.......damn scalpers.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 3:55 PM
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There's nothing unique about retail vendors having a "limit 1 per customer" system. Whether you "need" 5 of an item or not. You want to get around it? Better bring 4 friends. And that's the real solution to the real problem. Brick and mortar vendors only. No online sales. Yeah, I said that, and I won't apologize. Scalpers are a plague today because of Web sales. Not in-person sales. Limit distribution to brick and mortar retail vendors with NO online purchasing. You either find a Micro Center or a Best Buy, or you have to find one of the FEW cards someone is re-selling. A scalper who can only buy 1 card per day in person will NOT be able to beat the rush of legitimate individual buyers anymore. This won't kill scalping entirely, but it will kill the demand-side vicious cycle of their business model as real cards land in real users hands and they Scalpers are no longer the main source for supply. Stacks of on-the-shelf cards that real people can get are NOT the norm right now. But they should be. Direct-ship sales have been abused, so end them.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:10 PM
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thejinx.sheehan There's nothing unique about retail vendors having a "limit 1 per customer" system. Whether you "need" 5 of an item or not. You want to get around it? Better bring 4 friends.
The trouble is that it's not "one per person", It is one per household. They check by address. I don't have 4 friends! Even if I did, I think they would get a little sus about me paying for all the 'friend's' cards with my one credit card!
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 4:19 PM
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Neutro Scalping happens because nvidia allows it, it's as simple as that. If they wanted to avoid it, they'd implement a system that would check if the card is used by the original buyer or not. Something like : - you need to create an nvidia account to buy a card, and this account has an official ID check. After purchased the card is linked to your account. - you need to login on an nvidia app (something like geforce experience) using your account to unlock the graphic driver. Kinda like you have to login to steam to play games. But the goal of nvidia like any company is to make money, once they sell their chip what happens after with them matter for them less than selling them, no matter what they say. "Geforce is for gamers" is just a marketing stunt to keep a good image to the public.
That's one of the worst Ideas I've heard of. What if I sell a card to someone at a reasonable price and Nvidia doesn't transfer the account info over in a timely manner. Then they are locked out of their card for a few days or longer! What if someone else is playing a game on my PC under their own account? They would be locked out of the graphics card. What if they are running an Nvidia card on Linux or another OS? They would be locked out of their card. What if Nvidia's server verification goes down? I'd be locked out of my card. What if I'm somewhere without reliable internet and want to play single player games. I'd be locked out of my card. kram36 It's not just the 3953 card, it's across the whole EVGA lineup. There is no way you can sell a card at those prices without losing money, if you bought the card at MSRP. So it would be new Elite Members who got that spin the wheel deal to get a discount code, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all new Elite Members are here just to do that. Honor those that already have the code, but EVGA should end the spin the wheel deal discount code. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174817364785?epid=7047696774&hash=item28b3ed4b31%3Ag%3AsiIAAOSwEaVg2Ccb&LH_BIN=1&nma=true&si=31EnlIgjyWA4DfMwy53RH6jWnpg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Some people are buying the cards in bulk from EVGA or a hardware distributor. Some people are using their EVGA spin the wheel coupons. Some people have eBay stores with reduced fees. So they are making a profit. They wouldn't be selling them if they weren't profitable. Darkkittycry79 I'm disgusted by gaming, graphics cards and tech companies all together. Started taking on other hobbies. I'm sure I'm not the first person to exit the customer base. Many more will probably never return. Congrats. Great business strategy.
Yes blame the graphics card companies for the actions of other people that they can't legally do anything about.
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
Monday, July 05, 2021 5:57 PM
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kram36 It's not just the 3953 card, it's across the whole EVGA lineup. There is no way you can sell a card at those prices without losing money, if you bought the card at MSRP. So it would be new Elite Members who got that spin the wheel deal to get a discount code, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all new Elite Members are here just to do that. Honor those that already have the code, but EVGA should end the spin the wheel deal discount code. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174817364785?epid=7047696774&hash=item28b3ed4b31%3Ag%3AsiIAAOSwEaVg2Ccb&LH_BIN=1&nma=true&si=31EnlIgjyWA4DfMwy53RH6jWnpg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Some people are buying the cards in bulk from EVGA or a hardware distributor. Some people are using their EVGA spin the wheel coupons. Some people have eBay stores with reduced fees. So they are making a profit. They wouldn't be selling them if they weren't profitable.
Show me one seller on eBay with a multiple card listing selling them at a loss.
As I said they aren't selling them at a loss. "They wouldn't be selling them if they weren't profitable."
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Re: Extremely scalped (3953) 3080 Ti XC3
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kram36 It's not just the 3953 card, it's across the whole EVGA lineup. There is no way you can sell a card at those prices without losing money, if you bought the card at MSRP. So it would be new Elite Members who got that spin the wheel deal to get a discount code, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all new Elite Members are here just to do that. Honor those that already have the code, but EVGA should end the spin the wheel deal discount code. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174817364785?epid=7047696774&hash=item28b3ed4b31%3Ag%3AsiIAAOSwEaVg2Ccb&LH_BIN=1&nma=true&si=31EnlIgjyWA4DfMwy53RH6jWnpg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Some people are buying the cards in bulk from EVGA or a hardware distributor. Some people are using their EVGA spin the wheel coupons. Some people have eBay stores with reduced fees. So they are making a profit. They wouldn't be selling them if they weren't profitable.
Show me one seller on eBay with a multiple card listing selling them at a loss.
As I said they aren't selling them at a loss. "They wouldn't be selling them if they weren't profitable."
My post was pointed at people selling cards for a price they would lose money if they bought the card at MSRP. So with reasonable deduction, people selling cards at the price like the one I linked to had used a wheel spin discount code when they bought the card. Hence why I said EVGA should stop this wheel spin discount deal. These people are new Elite Members and only came here for one reason, to get a card under MSRP and sell it. They are not going to be a loyal customer to EVGA, they just gamed the system. Again, I'm not saying all new Elite Members are here just to do that. Honor those that already have the code, but EVGA should end the spin the wheel deal discount code.
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