Darkseid04
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I have had the card for a few months and decided to finally install the Hybrid Kit. I am playing on Samsung Ultra Wide 49in @240/ and Benq 27in, and the rad gets pretty hot. Prior to the install I was able to run Black Desert on my main 49in display and Nox on my secondary. I stopped using Nox as it was crashing and switched to Blue Stacks. When I try to run both on each monitor one or the other craps out or the both crap out and the system shuts down. I am not sure what Temps should look like after the AIO install. They do not seem much better than where they were prior. These are my idle Temps  These are my temps under load Ive run 3d Mark and Heavens to stress the system and temps seem to hold at 65. Playing BDO they jump up to 70-71. All of the Memory seem to get up there in the 80s. Is this acceptable for this card?
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 4:56 AM
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Oh god please tighten the screws more on the AIO
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:15 AM
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Use a recent version of HWiNFO to read memory junction temps on the card under load, should be about 90C or less but likely it's higher. Thermal limit is 110C. As King says your four AIO mounting screws might not be good and tight. You removed all the blue backing from the VRAM thermal pads and had paste between the AIO and vram plate? Could just be a general mismount. You have not commented about how fast you are running the fans, they need to be around 2000 rpm under load with supporting, same direction air flow from the case fans. 100% power is 380w which is a lot.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:43 AM
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Looks possibly like the AIO is not tightly secured. Do you have pics of the rad mounted by any chance?
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 10:31 AM
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kevinc313 Use a recent version of HWiNFO to read memory junction temps on the card under load, should be about 90C or less but likely it's higher. Thermal limit is 110C. As King says your four AIO mounting screws might not be good and tight. You removed all the blue backing from the VRAM thermal pads and had paste between the AIO and vram plate? Could just be a general mismount. You have not commented about how fast you are running the fans, they need to be around 2000 rpm under load with supporting, same direction air flow from the case fans. 100% power is 380w which is a lot.
I applied no paste of my own. It was not in the instructions so I just used the pre-applied therma; pads and the preapplied Thermal Paste that was on the AIO. Should I have applied thermal paste between the thermal pads and the actual vram? I may need to order Thermal Pads if the ones on are shot. Junction Temps are as follow; at idle  with case sides off  with case sides on EVGATech_DanielM Looks possibly like the AIO is not tightly secured. Do you have pics of the rad mounted by any chance?
Here is a pic of the rad mount. It is mounted to the top of the case as the instructions suggest. Should I have applied Thermal Paste between the Thermal Pads and the VRAM as Kevinc313 suggested? I did not view this in the instructions.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 12:20 AM
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What fan curve are you running? I noticed your fan speeds are only in the 1300's with those temps. If you are using the stock EVGA fans, then that temp looks about right. You need 2k rpm or more to get decent temps. That 240mm rad is kinda small. Best upgrade would be to buy better fans. The Noctua nf-A12's are the best, but pricey. I went for a pair of Arctic Bionix since they are rated at 2100 rpm. The Arctic P12 would be good except it's only 1800 rpm so temps will be higher. The Bionix are not loud at all at full speed. Played CP2077 for a while last night with the power slider at 112%. Highest core temp I saw was 60C with 25C ambient. Also since your temps went up when you put the covers back on the case, you have it configured as exhaust which is going to hurt some in almost any case unless there are a lot of case fans. I'm running mine as intake for that reason. Not ideal for case temps, but the GPU is the hardest to cool during gaming.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
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talon951 What fan curve are you running? I noticed your fan speeds are only in the 1300's with those temps. If you are using the stock EVGA fans, then that temp looks about right. You need 2k rpm or more to get decent temps. That 240mm rad is kinda small. Best upgrade would be to buy better fans. The Noctua nf-A12's are the best, but pricey. I went for a pair of Arctic Bionix since they are rated at 2100 rpm. The Arctic P12 would be good except it's only 1800 rpm so temps will be higher. The Bionix are not loud at all at full speed. Played CP2077 for a while last night with the power slider at 112%. Highest core temp I saw was 60C with 25C ambient. Also since your temps went up when you put the covers back on the case, you have it configured as exhaust which is going to hurt some in almost any case unless there are a lot of case fans. I'm running mine as intake for that reason. Not ideal for case temps, but the GPU is the hardest to cool during gaming.
So I am running the stock fans/stock rad that came with the EVGA cooling kit. I thought the 240mm rad was kinda small myself, especially since I am running a 360mm rad for the CPU, but its what EVGA is selling. I figured there would be better fans to switch out to and appreciate that suggestion. As you mention the fans. The assembly came with the fans mounted on the bottom of the rad so wouldnt it be pulling hot air from the case and exhausting it directly onto the rad? shouldnt it be pulling heat off of the rad and exhausting it out of top? I have 3 corsair 120mm fans on the bottom as intake. I started playing with Precision and the fan curve settings. the main problem I am having with the program is it does not appear to be holding the selected value. It switches to Custom as soon as i move away from the fan curve screen. So when i reboot the curve seems to reset. under an aggressive curve under load;  Temp seems stable at 55c with Junction at 78c, but it doesnt seem to hold the aggressive curve setting in PrecisionX1.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 1:19 PM
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Are you running the standard bios? If so, Try switching to the OC bios (flip the switch on the card with the machine shut off). The default fan curve is quite a bit more aggressive.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 3:34 PM
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☼ Best Answerby Darkseid04 Saturday, July 10, 2021 2:10 AM
I want to parrot a lot of the items suggested here= I just did my hybrid install over the long weekend and I had a similar scare. EDIT** link from evga tech on bios update to hybrid https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx - in the instructions when mounting the AIO is says to loosely tighten the 4 screws until you get the backplate on. I forgot to go back so mine was not making good contact.
- your x1 is showing ftw ultra still. you really should upgrade the bios to the hybrid. Ill track the link and edit my post. follow the instructions CAREFULLY and you should be good
- def flip your switch by the 8pins to OC- it basically runs the fan curve higher. (after installing hybrid bios from step 2 this will work even better)
- get high static CFM fans for the rad. if you are gonna push the card hard (IE mining and LONG gaming sessions) do a push pull so 4 fans total.
- clarification on 4- I have 4 fans set up on my RAD for the fact that like you said a 240 is small so I try to snap cool the water with as much cool air in the little time its in the RAD
- my card is under HEAVY mining load. my GPU tops out at 50c and my mem junction is 96. I am getting 101MH/s on a 3080. idle I am at 25-30c across all temp sensors.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 4:46 PM
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Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update. 1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested? 2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install. 3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s. 4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors? 5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config. Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together. Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:04 PM
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Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested?
2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors?
5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together.
Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
If your temperatures are around 55-65, getting them lower, adding extra fans, etc might only be worth it from a OCD standpoint. In reality, you're not going to get noticeable performance increase. So I guess, ask yourself if buying extra 4 new fans is worth it? Now I sound like a hypocrite because I do have mine in a push-pull setup knowing all this... But just wanted to share another train of thought, is it worth the extra money practically? Probably not. Is it worth it as a enthusiast and it brings you pleasure tuning stuff? Hell yeah! Lol.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:09 PM
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Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested? I didn't add anything to the GPU side (the side the AIO pump is located) I left the paste and pads as provided 2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors? you have a few options- add fan splitter on card, fan controller like ICUE or add to MOBO and set in BIOS 5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together. I don't have an opinion on this. I don't see how it could either help/hurt, But I have also never heard of adding paste to anything but the die of a GPU/CPU Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:11 PM
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Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested?
2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors?
5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together.
Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
If your temperatures are around 55-65, getting them lower, adding extra fans, etc might only be worth it from a OCD standpoint. In reality, you're not going to get noticeable performance increase. So I guess, ask yourself if buying extra 4 new fans is worth it? Now I sound like a hypocrite because I do have mine in a push-pull setup knowing all this... But just wanted to share another train of thought, is it worth the extra money practically? Probably not. Is it worth it as a enthusiast and it brings you pleasure tuning stuff? Hell yeah! Lol.
I am of the opinion that if the only downside I can fathom is the dent in my wallet, then I am absolutely doing it
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:16 PM
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Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested?
2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors?
5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together.
Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
If your temperatures are around 55-65, getting them lower, adding extra fans, etc might only be worth it from a OCD standpoint. In reality, you're not going to get noticeable performance increase. So I guess, ask yourself if buying extra 4 new fans is worth it? Now I sound like a hypocrite because I do have mine in a push-pull setup knowing all this... But just wanted to share another train of thought, is it worth the extra money practically? Probably not. Is it worth it as a enthusiast and it brings you pleasure tuning stuff? Hell yeah! Lol.
I am of the opinion that if the only downside I can fathom is the dent in my wallet, then I am absolutely doing it 
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 5:38 PM
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Exactly! If it removes doubt ill do it
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 6:07 PM
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Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested?
2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors?
5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together.
Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
Make sure that you completely clean off any old thermal paste and/or thermal pads so you have better contact between new paste/pads and the components. DO NOT apply thermal paste on pads. Pads are not meant to have thermal paste applied to them, and it will only hurt your thermals. Also, make sure that those fans you get make a decent seal around the radiator. Some fans are shaped such that a ton of air will just escape in the space between the fans and the radiator. I even use some neoprene strips to fill in a few gaps, but I'm kind of anal about that. As long as the fan frames don't leave a lot of space where air can escape (I'm looking at you, Corsair QL's), your static pressure should be fine.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 6:37 PM
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Ciddharthas
Darkseid04 Thanks. I didnt realize there was a different bios once the hybrid was installed. Figured its just a rad. Ill update.
1. I went back in and the card was definitely making contact. Ill upload the pic later but you can see the indents on the thermals though it does appear shallow. Were you adding paste between the vram and thermal pads suggested?
2. The thermal paste on the gpu was pretty light. Ill reapply there after a cleanup. I definitely noted a lot of putty like padding when i did the first install.
3. I did the OC switch before i tore it down again and noticed temps were quite cooler. Low 30s.
4. Going to run out and grab extra fans. I only had extra phanteks that dont look like they will cut the mustard. How do you have the extra 2 fans connected to the gpu for control since it only has the 2 connectors?
5. The cpu rad is rewired now with that same push pull config.
Ill wait on responses about the thermal paste between the pad and vram before putting it back together.
Thanks to everyone so far with great info and help.
Make sure that you completely clean off any old thermal paste and/or thermal pads so you have better contact between new paste/pads and the components. DO NOT apply thermal paste on pads. Pads are not meant to have thermal paste applied to them, and it will only hurt your thermals.
Also, make sure that those fans you get make a decent seal around the radiator. Some fans are shaped such that a ton of air will just escape in the space between the fans and the radiator. I even use some neoprene strips to fill in a few gaps, but I'm kind of anal about that. As long as the fan frames don't leave a lot of space where air can escape (I'm looking at you, Corsair QL's), your static pressure should be fine.
That was the disappointment with the Arctic Bionix. They don't seal as well as the Arctic P12s because of the frame design. Been trying to come up with a way to seal them better. I didn't notice they were different in the pics(obviously now when I look of course).
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 7:08 PM
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Thanks. I can button it up and put it back together. I cant add the 2 additional rads yet as i need the fan splitters and need those delivered.
I did realize the case fans were not in the best configuration ater researching other oc11 builds. I wanted it for possible future custom loop, but bought on sight and little research
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
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☄ Helpfulby Darkseid04 Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:31 AM
LOL. There is paste between the VRAM MATING COPPER PLATE and the HYBRID AIO, in the kit, but sometimes it helps to add more. My post was clear. I'm not recommending paste between the pads and VRAM chips, though iirc some people have tried that with limited success. OP - you have totally normal temps with the fans set the way you have them, there is nothing wrong. Many people posting exceptional temps have exceptional setups. Here's mine with four 120x38mm 3400RPM San Ace server grade fans plus supporting case fans. See attached. Sounds like a power tool. I use 1" gaffing tape to make an air tight seal from the fans to the rads and made a custom 1/4" spacer for these fans because their hub is so big.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Friday, July 09, 2021 10:03 PM
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☄ Helpfulby Darkseid04 Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:31 AM
Your temps are actually normal for the 240mm rad with the hybrid kit as keep in mind it is only a 240mm AIO and you are pumping 350+ watts through it under load, and even more if you are running the XoC bios. I really with the hybrid kit came with a 360mm radiator, but your temps are right in line with what my 3080 hybrid and 3080ti hybrid produce if I dont have my fan RPM cranked. When I game my fans are going full tilt and the highest temp I see is 60c and thats only in CoD:Warzone. Its one of the main reasons I want to pick up a 3080Ti Hydro Copper and use it as an excuse to do a new build with a full water loop and a 5900x.
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Re: Help! 3080 FTW Ultra Temps After Hybrid Kit Install
Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:36 AM
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Just to finish this thread up; I buttoned everything back into the case. Temps at idle are 30c and at load 60c so something was definitely off. I think I will look at getting better fans like a few of you have suggested for the rad. The case has 9 Fans running; 6 on the CPU AIO, 3 on bottom intake, and the 2 on the GPU AIO exhaust.    I truly appreciate everyone's input and patience. Thank you so much. Hopefully this thread helps others as it definitely has a ton of good information.
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