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I recently bought the evga 3070ti and have been trying to run warzone. I previously ran it at about 90-100 frames before on the lower settings with a 1660ti, and now with the new gpu I run it at around 60-80 frames and its very choppy. I know there is bottleneck but I would have still expected the performance to increase. Any tips? My specs: Case - IBuyPower Element Case - vga allowance - 344 mm (13.55 in) Motherboard - TUF B365M-PLUS Gaming Graphics Card - GeForce RTX 3070Ti Ram - DDR4 16 GB * 2 CPU - Intel i7-9700F 2.9GHz (4.8GHz Max Turbo) Power Supply Output - 750 watts - size - atx
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 3:16 AM
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If you lower the settings back down to what you were using with the 1660ti does the choppiness go away?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 3:18 AM
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Yeah that’s was I meant initially, sorry. Since it wasn’t running well when I initially tried to put it at higher settings I lowered them to where they were before.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 3:26 AM
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So the choppiness didn't go away even at lower settings?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 3:35 AM
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Any specific settings? How long should I run it for? I ran the test and I took a screenshot but it wouldn't let me post in here. What am I looking for?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 4:00 AM
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Set the vram test to 95%, and then let it run for the full hour. If it detects any errors you'll know it as it will tell you errors have been detected.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 4:49 AM
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I don't have any experience with warzone but it doesn't change settings based on GPU does it? Make sure there's no resolution scaling or ray tracing hasn't been enabled. As for the choppiness, if it passes occt, make sure you're monitoring your GPU usage, frequency, temps, etc. If your GPU utilization goes too low due to CPU bottleneck (I've seen a lot of people bottlenecked by 9700 non k CPUs on 30 series due to the 65w tdp - easily fixed by removing power limits in bios or Intel XTU as long as you have a decent cooler) hitting CPU power limits could be bringing down CPU frequency, causing low GPU utilization, and if bad enough could even lower GPU frequency to save power causing choppiness everytime it drops and comes back up although I doubt that it would bring utilization down that much but I'm just spit balling. I also had an issue with a card being really choppy because a few times a minute several VRM temp sensors would report temps higher than the surface of the sun (literally) and it would drop my GPU frequency for a split second every time it happened. Download Afterburner, set up the OSD, and any times there's a serious chop look to see if the CPU frequency, GPU utilization, GPU frequency, vram frequency etc are dropping or if anything weird is happening with temps. If CPU frequency is dipping when it happens then it's probably hitting power limits and bringing the card down with it. 65w just isn't enough for 8 9th gen cores especially on a title that can be CPU intensive.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 12:27 AM
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There were no errors with the OCCT test 00:00:00 - Info - Test schedule started at 2022-04-05 07:23:57 00:00:00 - Info - VRAM - Started (Duration : 01:00:00) 01:00:00 - Info - VRAM - Stopped 01:00:00 - Info - Test schedule completed
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 12:33 AM
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There are quite a few graphical settings that you can change as well as raytracing and resolution scaling. I have been playing with it all for some time as in changing the graphics. I just installed the 750 Watt psu for this new gpu. It is weird because I was getting such smooth gameplay before when I ran it on my 1660ti. Initially it was not this bad when I first started using the new gpu but it seems to have gotten a bit more obvious to me over the last few days. The OCCT test had no issues. I never had any temp problems before or choppiness due to the cpu it was just always on 100% when I would check the task manager in game. I will download Afterburner and get back to you in terms of that though, thanks for all the info.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 1:59 PM
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Did you do fresh driver installs? i.e. uninstall GeForce Experience, Precision X1, Afterburner, etc., run DDU to wipe your Nvidia drivers, then install a fresh driver from scratch and reinstall any OC-software you want to use. Sometimes things get a bit hung up when swapping hardware. Another thing you can double-check would be the PCIe settings. Download GPUz and then take a look at the "interface" box while gaming (if you look while idling at Windows, it may not show the full speed). You want to make sure you're motherboard correctly detected and set the card at PCIe 3.0 x16 (newer motherboards/CPUs would show 4.0, but I don't think yours will do that). You may need to manually set your PCIe speed at gen 3.0 if it didn't detect it properly. the x16 is usually not a setting you can change. Once you get back to us with some updates on whether you've tried/checked these items, and can tell us the utilization, frequencies, temperatures, etc. of your GPU, we might have some more tips for you. Good luck!
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 3:46 PM
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Djm23801 There are quite a few graphical settings that you can change as well as raytracing and resolution scaling. I have been playing with it all for some time as in changing the graphics. I just installed the 750 Watt psu for this new gpu. It is weird because I was getting such smooth gameplay before when I ran it on my 1660ti. Initially it was not this bad when I first started using the new gpu but it seems to have gotten a bit more obvious to me over the last few days. The OCCT test had no issues. I never had any temp problems before or choppiness due to the cpu it was just always on 100% when I would check the task manager in game. I will download Afterburner and get back to you in terms of that though, thanks for all the info.
If your CPU is pegged as 100% you're definitely CPU bottlenecked. GPU utilization should be close to 100, not CPU. And a bottleneck with a 3070 Ti is going to be way more severe than a 1660. I'd set up the OSD to see what's going on. And I'd definitely take off the power limits. That alone would help relieve the bottleneck. Running DDU and reinstalling drivers is a good idea as well.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 4:44 PM
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Djm23801 There were no errors with the OCCT test 00:00:00 - Info - Test schedule started at 2022-04-05 07:23:57 00:00:00 - Info - VRAM - Started (Duration : 01:00:00) 01:00:00 - Info - VRAM - Stopped 01:00:00 - Info - Test schedule completed
I’m guessing your issue is with online play, and campaign mode works just fine?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 4:59 PM
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Out of curiosity, did the render resolution change in the game settings when you added the 3070 Ti to your system?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 5:52 PM
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Did you reset the game settings after putting in the new card? It could be a setting got turned on for the lower end card that shouldn't be on for the 3070Ti.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 8:16 PM
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I tried to reset the settings initially using the geforce experience feature that sets up the graphics with your specs, but I was not getting good frames 60-80 so I tried to lower it. This did not change my frames only increasing it by maybe a few.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 8:18 PM
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The render resolution did change but only because I recalibrated them using the GeForce experience. I have a monitor that I run on 1920 1080 but it was changed to 2440 1440. I switched it back though. I do not think this is what you meant though.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 8:20 PM
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Initially, I did not do any fresh driver installs I just looked into the device manager and my old gpu was gone. After I didn't get the performance I wanted, I then downloaded ddu to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to help at all.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:03 PM
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Okay so I ran afterburner and it seems that I am getting like 90-100 % cpu utilization and hard stuck at 74 % gpu. Now This is a bottleneck. But the 1660ti is much worse than the 3070ti. Would I not still expect a good jump in fps just based on graphical optimization from the gpu?
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:19 PM
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Djm23801 Okay so I ran afterburner and it seems that I am getting like 90-100 % cpu utilization and hard stuck at 74 % gpu. Now This is a bottleneck. But the 1660ti is much worse than the 3070ti. Would I not still expect a good jump in fps just based on graphical optimization from the gpu?
You would think...or at least that it would be about the same because you're dealing with the max draw-calls your CPU can request. Just curious, what is your memory and is XMP turned on? I've seen people forget that step and get another 15-20% FPS from a 3070 before (their RAM was running at 2133MHz instead of 3200MHz). I've seen some articles about heavy driver overhead with the new 30-series GPUs and older or low-end CPUs. I guess it is possible that the bottleneck is hitting your new GPU harder than the old one, but it does seem weird and unlikely to me, because you'd think they'd be more efficient. I'm afraid if running DDU and installing fresh drivers in safe mode (after uninstalling GeForce Experience, Afterburner, and any other GPU related software) to make sure everything is wiped clean didn't help you clear any random bugs in your config, the only thing left to point at is that CPU bottleneck. Then you'd end up wanting to consider trying to find a used 9900k or thinking about upgrading your CPU and motherboard...Maybe someone else has better news. It doesn't sound right to me, but the current evidence is pointing that way.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:26 PM
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Djm23801 The render resolution did change but only because I recalibrated them using the GeForce experience. I have a monitor that I run on 1920 1080 but it was changed to 2440 1440. I switched it back though. I do not think this is what you meant though.
In the Options>Graphics menu, Display tab, the fifth option down should be Render Resolution. Set it to your desired screen resolution and adjust the slider to 100. Also, I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want to play at 1440p if that’s what you’re monitor’s native resolution is. I used to play the game at 1440p with a 9900K and a 2080 Ti, which is very comparable to your system now, and had no CPU bottlenecking. Although, playing the game at a lower resolution will tax the CPU more than the GPU. That’s a prime reason for gaming at a higher resolution so most of the load is on the GPU. Lastly, I wouldn’t use GeForce Experience. It’s been known to cause issues in general and doesn’t do anything you can’t do yourself between the Nvidia Control Panel and the game itself.

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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:29 PM
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Djm23801 Okay so I ran afterburner and it seems that I am getting like 90-100 % cpu utilization and hard stuck at 74 % gpu. Now This is a bottleneck. But the 1660ti is much worse than the 3070ti. Would I not still expect a good jump in fps just based on graphical optimization from the gpu?
Your 1660ti gets utilized less than the 3070ti? Yeah, something is definitely wrong there. I’ve seen utilization issues resolved after performing a clean install of windows. Something you might want to try. Best to do it on a separate spare drive, so you don’t nuke your current install just in case windows isn’t the issue.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:50 PM
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I boosted the graphics up and the utilization was a bit more balanced. The issue was that it still feels very choppy which is just a mystery to me. The frames seem to jump around so much comparatively to before the upgrade. This has been happening on elden ring too even tho I know it is an optimization issue within the game as well. I just overall still haven't figured out why the big jump in performance is not happening and this choppiness has been happening. Gonna open it up and make sure all the inputs to the power supply are in tight.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:57 PM
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Djm23801 I boosted the graphics up and the utilization was a bit more balanced. The issue was that it still feels very choppy which is just a mystery to me. The frames seem to jump around so much comparatively to before the upgrade. This has been happening on elden ring too even tho I know it is an optimization issue within the game as well. I just overall still haven't figured out why the big jump in performance is not happening and this choppiness has been happening. Gonna open it up and make sure all the inputs to the power supply are in tight.
I’d set everything to default and go from there. That means your game graphics settings and Afterburner. I’d also disable GeForce Experience, at least temporarily. If you’ve modified the Nvidia Control Panel any, reset that as well. Either some settings aren’t playing nice or you’ve got a faulty GPU, hopefully not the latter.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 10:08 PM
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If you're hard limited by the CPU then getting a more powerful GPU isn't going to help. I've seen charts measuring GPUs with the same slow CPU and they all hit the exact same frame rate. But it shouldn't make it worse either unless it's bringing down the utilization so much that it's causing the GPU to throttle the GPU frequency which I doubt is happening here. Removing the CPU power limits is a pretty easy fix for the bottleneck. Go into XTU and max out every bar that measures watts, amps, and seconds. Just don't touch anything that is measured in volts like vcore. Have you checked all of the thermal sensors like VRM VRAM etc? A faulty thermal sensor caused my card extreme choppiness.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Wednesday, April 06, 2022 1:31 AM
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I went back into my computer and I am ashamed to admit that there was a power supply wire that feeds the gpu and it was a half millimeter out of place. I went back onto the game and my frames were around 90-110 on max settings much smoother. I appreciate all of the tips and they definitely gave me a lot more knowledge on pcs in general and troubleshooting methods, thank you everyone.
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Wednesday, April 06, 2022 1:59 AM
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Glad you got it up and running! I would have figured you would have gotten a light on the GPU above one of the pcie power connectors. Maybe it was making a connection but not enough that it was giving clean power causing weird issues? Either way, glad it's working!
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Re: Bought 3070ti Choppy Performance Worse than Before
Wednesday, April 06, 2022 2:23 AM
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tresnugget Glad you got it up and running! I would have figured you would have gotten a light on the GPU above one of the pcie power connectors. Maybe it was making a connection but not enough that it was giving clean power causing weird issues? Either way, glad it's working!
My thoughts exactly.
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