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https://www.kitguru.net/components/matthew-wilson/global-foundries-files-lawsuit-against-tsmc-and-its-customers-over-patent-infringement/ This week has started off with a bang, as chipmaker Global Foundries has filed lawsuits against TSMC for infringing on 16 patents and is seeking to stop the importing of infringing chips used by the likes of Apple, Nvidia, ASUS, Google and more. There are 20 defendants named in the lawsuits, which target products sold in the US and Germany specifically. TSMC creates chips for many high-profile tech companies, with 20 of them named in the lawsuit due to their use of TSMC-manufactured chips. The full list of defendants includes: TSMC, Apple, Broadcom, Mediatek, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Xilinx, Avnet/EBV, Digi-key, Mouser, Arista, ASUS, BLU, Cisco, Google, HiSense, Lenovo, Motorola, TCL and OnePlus. Well this should be an interesting lawsuit.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Monday, August 26, 2019 7:09 PM
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I hate to sound like i am defending the likes of Apple, Google, Nvidia and Broadcom, but this seems like patent trolling.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Monday, August 26, 2019 7:15 PM
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MadmanRB I hate to sound like i am defending the likes of Apple, Google, Nvidia and Broadcom, but this seems like patent trolling.
From what I understand GF tried in good faith to license the tech and were unsuccessful. Lawsuits normally follow.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Monday, August 26, 2019 9:30 PM
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MadmanRB I hate to sound like i am defending the likes of Apple, Google, Nvidia and Broadcom, but this seems like patent trolling.
From what I understand GF tried in good faith to license the tech and were unsuccessful. Lawsuits normally follow.
What else is knew when a foreign nations steals IPs from a US based company. Nothing new here, just the same ol theft. I think it's time we start manufacturing everything here via automation of course to keep costs down. Not to get deep into this idea but some believe Taiwan is the financial arm of the Chinese communist gov. What's been happening there should raise your eyebrows.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Monday, August 26, 2019 11:47 PM
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https://venturebeat.com/2019/08/26/globalfoundries-sues-apple-nvidia-qualcomm-and-tsmc-over-chip-patents/amp/According to Globalfoundries, “TSMC has been unlawfully reaping the benefits of our investments” in U.S. and European semiconductor manufacturing by utilizing Globalfoundries technologies in Asian factories. “This action is critical to halt Taiwan Semiconductor’s unlawful use of our vital assets,” Globalfoundries engineering SVP Gregg Bartlett explained Then Globalfoundries dropped out of the race to manufacture tiny 7-nanometer chips last year, effectively ceding the market for ever-smaller processors to Asian rivals TSMC and Samsung When you can no longer compete... sue... It’s the American / Millennial way... we are so [you know what] It would be the height of irony if a supposedly nationalist America pushed the descendants of Chiang Kai-shek into the arms of Maoist China (but I digress...)
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 0:01 PM
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MasterMiner https://venturebeat.com/2019/08/26/globalfoundries-sues-apple-nvidia-qualcomm-and-tsmc-over-chip-patents/amp/
According to Globalfoundries, “TSMC has been unlawfully reaping the benefits of our investments” in U.S. and European semiconductor manufacturing by utilizing Globalfoundries technologies in Asian factories. “This action is critical to halt Taiwan Semiconductor’s unlawful use of our vital assets,” Globalfoundries engineering SVP Gregg Bartlett explained
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Globalfoundries dropped out of the race to manufacture tiny 7-nanometer chips last year, effectively ceding the market for ever-smaller processors to Asian rivals TSMC and Samsung
When you can no longer compete... sue...
It’s the American / Millennial way... we are so [you know what]
It would be the height of irony if a supposedly nationalist America pushed the descendants of Chiang Kai-shek into the arms of Maoist China (but I digress...)
That's irrelevant if there was any wrong doing. Are you from the states? Just wondering.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 0:04 PM
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That's irrelevant if there was any wrong doing. Are you from the states? Just wondering.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:14 AM
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Eh, it's just leveraging the stereotype that all Asian companies steal their IP. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Makes GloFo look like a poor loser in the court of public opinion though. Sorta surprised they're not also suing Samsung and a few others too.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:00 AM
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Brad_Hawthorne Eh, it's just leveraging the stereotype that all Asian companies steal their IP. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Makes GloFo look like a poor loser in the court of public opinion though. Sorta surprised they're not also suing Samsung and a few others too.
They should if they have proof. I don't think they would go on a limp here with no evidence. I think it would be silly if they did plus it comes from an area apart of the world where stolen IPs are the norm.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:28 AM
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Brad_Hawthorne Eh, it's just leveraging the stereotype that all Asian companies steal their IP. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Makes GloFo look like a poor loser in the court of public opinion though. Sorta surprised they're not also suing Samsung and a few others too.
If their lawsuit against TSMC is successful a Samsung lawsuit will probably follow
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, August 27, 2019 11:49 AM
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You showed it to them, they took it and used it for profit. Guess who the idiot is!!!
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Friday, August 30, 2019 2:05 PM
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I know zero facts behind the case. But it's the timing that smells fishy. Why are they suing now, after GloFo is winding down its businesses? GloFo halted research into 7nm last year, they are done. In the last two years Glofo has sold off multiple 200mm and 300mm fabs including their new New York facility. They have divested themselves of smaller business entities, sold off fabrication assets from their fabs to other firms, and transferred engineers and IP licenses to other companies as parts of these Fab sales. A company doesn't cancel future R&D and sell off its core business assets unless they are done. So why are they only NOW filing infringement lawsuits...
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Friday, August 30, 2019 11:34 PM
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kougar I know zero facts behind the case. But it's the timing that smells fishy. Why are they suing now, after GloFo is winding down its businesses? GloFo halted research into 7nm last year, they are done. In the last two years Glofo has sold off multiple 200mm and 300mm fabs including their new New York facility. They have divested themselves of smaller business entities, sold off fabrication assets from their fabs to other firms, and transferred engineers and IP licenses to other companies as parts of these Fab sales. A company doesn't cancel future R&D and sell off its core business assets unless they are done. So why are they only NOW filing infringement lawsuits...
That’s a rhetorical question, right? They obviously want to join in on the NPE (see: Patent Troll) party
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Saturday, August 31, 2019 0:52 PM
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If they prove patent infringement --> they can also Show losses they suffered --> for punitive damages - No ?
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Sunday, September 01, 2019 11:50 PM
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Cool GTX If they prove patent infringement --> they can also Show losses they suffered --> for punitive damages - No ?
Sure, but winning doesn't mean it's a valid lawsuit. That's just gambling hoping for a score. Look at Rambus, they used the threat of suits to force companies to sign licenses since that would've been cheaper than fighting via litigation. If they win the Emirate of Abu Dhab (who owns GloFo's parent company) would just pocket the money, GloFo now seems to be focusing on smaller IC fabrication at this point using mostly 200nm fabs on old nodes.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
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the lawsuit cuts both ways im sure TSMC has patents they could counterclaim on - including the ones gloflo is suing on this could bite GLOFLO on the butt with more losses - because im sure TSMC has done more R&D and has more patents then gloflo you don't throw stones unless your prepared to go down for the count - TSMC has deep pockets to fight... gloflo doesn't Im expecting this to be the death nell for GLOFLO
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 5:25 AM
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TSMC States Its 37,000 Patents Sufficient To Void GlobalFoundries’ Claims In its last statement, TSMC said that it was ”disappointed’ by a fab that it considers as a peer. The company also stated that it will use all legal means to fight to protect its ”proprietary technologies”. Now, the Taiwanese fab is out with another statement. As reported by CNbeta, TSMC is stating that all technologies that GF alleges infringement up, the Taiwanese fab has developed itself. According to TSMC, it’s got the world’s largest semiconductor patent IP portfolio, with more than 37,000 patents under its belt. Additionally, the fab also highlights the fact that it’s been the US’ top 10 patent inventor since 2016 to boost its claims of having developed technology unrelated to GlobalFoundries’ IP. https://wccftech.com/tsmc-patents-itc-globalfoundries/
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 12:15 AM
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TSMC just filed a lawsuit against Global Foundaries today. It was bound to happen.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 2:09 PM
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Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 2:25 PM
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It's all a ruse - to jack up prices on us.
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 2:42 PM
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TSMC Lands a Counterpunch to the Lawsuit by GlobalFoundries The Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) ( TPE:2330) – the world’s largest contract chipmaker – has filed multiple countersuits in the U.S., Germany, and Singapore against the American semiconductor fabricator – GlobalFoundries – for infringing on its patents pertaining to the photolithography processes. The company asserted that it is “ready for battle in the courts” and that it will seek “substantial monetary damages” for violations of its intellectual property though it did not disclose the precise quantum of damages being sought. In its lawsuit, TSMC has asserted that the American semiconductor fabricator infringed on its 25 patents pertaining to the 40 nanometer (nm), 28nm, 22nm, 14nm, and 12nm node processes – the photolithography methods that are used in the manufacturing of chips. Moreover, the company has asked the courts to prevent GlobalFoundries from producing and selling semiconductors that incorporate the identified patent violations. Given the wide scope of the complaints, should TSMC emerge victorious in its lawsuits, almost all of the production lines of GlobalFoundries will be severely impacted. https://wccftech.com/tsmc-lands-a-counterpunch-to-the-lawsuit-by-globalfoundries/ ty_ger07 Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
That is an understatement....lol GF is dead They should have kept their mouths shut
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
Tuesday, October 01, 2019 6:45 PM
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Guess we will have to wait 5 to 10 years, after the dust settles ... see what the courts Rule or if there is a cross license agreement or purchase
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Re: Global Foundries files lawsuit against TSMC and its customers over patent infringement
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