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Sunday, March 03, 2019 6:22 PM (permalink)
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3850x-zen-2-cpu-rumored-560-7-3700x-370
 
It is a known fact that AMD will release a new round of processors based on its 7-nanometer Zen 2 CPU architecture, and the company even gave a sneak peek at what is to come back at the Consumer Electronics Show in January. For the most part, though, specs and prices remain a mystery. That said, we are starting to see some leaks online that purportedly offer up both details on the upcoming Zen 2 launch. The latest to do so is Bizgram, an online retailer in Singapore. The retailer updated its product catalog with a host of Ryzen 3000 series processors, none of which have been announced, but some of which have not yet been teased, either.

The product catalog also highlights a full range of Ryzen 3000 series, including Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, and Ryzen 3 SKUs. If once again basing specs on prior leaks, here is what we are looking at...(based on currency conversion from Singapore dollars to US dollars)
  • Ryzen 3 3300: 6-core/12-thread, 50W, 3.2GHz to 4GHz, $111
  • Ryzen 3 3300X: 6-core/12-thread, 3.5GHz to 4.3GHz, 65W, $145
  • Ryzen 3 3300G: 6-core-12-thread, Navi graphics, 3GHz to 3.8GHz, 65W, $145
  • Ryzen 5 3600: 8-core/16-thread, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 65W, $200
  • Ryzen 5 3600X: 8-core/16-thread, 4GHz to 4.8GHz, 95W, $258
  • Ryzen 5 3600G: 8-core, 16-thread, 3.2GHz to 4GHz, Navi graphics, 95W, $224
  • Ryzen 7 3700: 12-core, 24-thread, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 95W, $336
  • Ryzen 7 3700X: 12-core, 24-thread, 4.2GHz to 5GHz, 105W, $370
  • Ryzen 9 3800X: 16-core, 32-thread, 3.9GHz to 4.7GHz, 125W, $505
  • Ryzen 9 3850X: 16-core, 32-thread, 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz, 135W, $561

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Sunday, March 03, 2019 6:47 PM (permalink)
    Ryzen 9 3850X: 16-core, 32-thread, 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz, 135W, $561 ...this looks tasty..
     
    I might sell my friend my 9900K and get this one
     

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:08 PM (permalink)
    Prices are extremely competitive...good to see

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:29 PM (permalink)
    Amazing looking prices. 

    So how many PCI Lanes do these things usually support or will support?

    What about TR3?

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Monday, March 04, 2019 11:53 PM (permalink)
    I may trade in my 1700 for A 3600, a good 8 core to 8 core upgrade for the money.
    I dont think I will aim for anything higher as I feel the core count price to performance deficit would happen with the 3700 with anything above that more for enthusiasts.


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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 0:18 PM (permalink)
    Nice offerings assuming they're accurate.  Got some systems to build this year.  Gonna be a good year.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 0:24 PM (permalink)
    What will be interesting is if Intel responds to these prices. That is really when the consumer win. Anytime they get options and great prices it's great.

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 0:46 PM (permalink)
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    Nice offerings assuming they're accurate.  Got some systems to build this year.  Gonna be a good year.




    Well considering most of the leaks surrounding Ryzen have been accurate no dout this will be just as good.


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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 1:32 AM (permalink)
    how many lanes will they have?
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 1:38 AM (permalink)
    My R5 2400G is good enough for now. Maybe next year AMD will have a better CPU?
     

      


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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 2:13 AM (permalink)
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    how many lanes will they have?


    Probably 24.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:56 AM (permalink)
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    https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3850x-zen-2-cpu-rumored-560-7-3700x-370
     
    • Ryzen 5 3600X: 8-core/16-thread, 4GHz to 4.8GHz, 95W, $258
    • Ryzen 7 3700: 12-core, 24-thread, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 95W, $336
    • Ryzen 7 3700X: 12-core, 24-thread, 4.2GHz to 5GHz, 105W, $370


    Any of these will be fine for me 
    I literally went:
     

     
     
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 6:04 PM (permalink)
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    how many lanes will they have?


    Probably 24.


    What makes you think that? The 2700X Max Number of PCI Express Lanes is 16.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 7:28 PM (permalink)
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    What makes you think that? The 2700X Max Number of PCI Express Lanes is 16.




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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:07 PM (permalink)
    Currently: 
    AMD’s Ryzen platform supports up to 28 PCIe lanes, but the CPU controls most of those lanes. Ryzen CPUs feature 20 PCIe 3.0 lanes, with 16 lanes dedicated to two 16x/8x PCIe slots for graphics cards, and four lanes to split between SATA and NVMe data transfer interfaces.
    The X470 chipset adds another eight general-purpose PCIe 2.0 lanes, which board manufactures can dedicate to additional M.2 slots, 5/10GbE network interfaces, or other PCIe-based devices.
     
    With the addition of PCIE 4.0 with the next gen processors and chipsets nobody can say until NDA is lifted, as threadripper appears to be sticking around its probably going to be about the same just with the next gen protocols.   
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:45 PM (permalink)
    Why does Newegg and CPU World show 16 PCI-e 3.0 lanes on the 2700X?
     
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen%207%202700X.html
     

     
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113499
     

     
    I guess they are trying to keep from misinforming people on how many 3.0 lanes are offered to the PCI-e slots. It seems you're better off going with a Intel's Z390 motherboard then AMD's X470 motherboard if you want more and faster PCI-e lanes in total, but neither gives you an advantage in the 3.0 speed lanes to the PIC-e slots.
     
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=intel+Z390+vs+AMD+X470&t=ffsb&ia=web
     

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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Tuesday, March 05, 2019 10:11 PM (permalink)
    nvm
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:02 AM (permalink)
    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
    Thanks
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:22 AM (permalink)
    X58 has 36 Pcie 2.0 lanes which have half the bandwidth of of the 20 pcie 3.0 lanes on the current x470 platform. The x570 will have pcie 4.0 which is double the 3.0 bandwidth but we won’t know how many lanes or how they allocate it until NDA lifts or we get more substantial leaks or confirmation.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:34 AM (permalink)
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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 2:47 AM (permalink)
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.




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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 3:53 AM (permalink)
    R7-3700 looks pretty good at that price 370$ if they truly fixed their version of AVX and AVX2 I may do an AMD build.
    That with a new VII series video card would make a great crunching setup.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 7:44 AM (permalink)
    It's nice to see how Intel struggle with their who knows how old architecture to compete to Zen core and AMD had a lot of place for improvement with much newer products.
    In one moment when AMD touch 4.5-4.6GHz with 8-12 cores Intel will have zero advantage any more and I don't know what they plan to do. 
    Every generation of AMD is 100-200MHz higher clock and more cores. 
     
    It's much easier for people who know become enthusiasts, they probably think Why someone pay more for less performance.
    Why someone to buy ASUS Dominus and 28 core Intel Xeon Server for 5000$ when AMD Threadripper 2 Desktop with 32 cores is better.
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:02 AM (permalink)
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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.




     
    It does, Currently in the process of upgrading from an x58 with a 970 @ 4.5ghz, The old girl had a pretty good run but between drive speeds and some innovation coming back to processors on both sides, it was time, not to mention that my FTW3 has started intermittently BSODing on me and I'm not going to make EVGA RMA it (Remember lifetime warranties on your motherboard?)  
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.




    my R5 2400G is faster and the integrated graphics makes mincemeat of anything Intel can conjure up


    The i7-970 does not have integrated graphics and he is asking about PCIe lanes on the CPU. So I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about the integrated graphics performance. Not exactly sure why you made this post?
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    Re: AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3850X Zen 2 CPU Rumored At $560, 12-Core Ryzen 7 3700X $370 Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:55 AM (permalink)
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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    36 PCI lanes. 
     
    I also have a i7 950 X58 as my secondary back up and folding rig.
     
    If these new AMD CPU's don't have at least 40 PCIe lanes, I feel it's not worth it so TR3 it is.

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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    36 PCI lanes. 
     
    I also have a i7 950 X58 as my secondary back up and folding rig.
     
    If these new AMD CPU's don't have at least 40 PCIe lanes, I feel it's not worth it so TR3 it is.


    FYI: Those 36 PCI-e 2.0 lanes on X58 are ran through the north bridge, not the CPU.
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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.




     
    It does, Currently in the process of upgrading from an x58 with a 970 @ 4.5ghz, The old girl had a pretty good run but between drive speeds and some innovation coming back to processors on both sides, it was time, not to mention that my FTW3 has started intermittently BSODing on me and I'm not going to make EVGA RMA it (Remember lifetime warranties on your motherboard?)  


    I would RMA that motherboard. You never know what EVGA will send you for a replacement. More then likely a newer motherboard that you could use to build a faster system with the bells and whistles that you're looking for and save you the cost of buying a new motherboard. Plus the Lifetime warranty will follow onto the replacement motherboard.
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    What will be the DIRECT CPU PCIE lanes; not including the motherboard offerings, ?  And how does it compare to an i7 970, X58 ?
     
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    Not sure on the PCI-e lanes on the cpu, but my guess is they will be the same as the current Ryzen lineup. I would say every cpu in the op's list will make the i7-970 look slow in every aspect.




     
    It does, Currently in the process of upgrading from an x58 with a 970 @ 4.5ghz, The old girl had a pretty good run but between drive speeds and some innovation coming back to processors on both sides, it was time, not to mention that my FTW3 has started intermittently BSODing on me and I'm not going to make EVGA RMA it (Remember lifetime warranties on your motherboard?)  


    I would RMA that motherboard. You never know what EVGA will send you for a replacement. More then likely a newer motherboard that you could use to build a faster system with the bells and whistles that you're looking for and save you the cost of buying a new motherboard. Plus the Lifetime warranty will follow onto the replacement motherboard.


    I plan on it although it will probably be a secondary pc as I had already found a deal on a new motherboard and cpu that will fit for the build, and EVGA couldn't guarantee what board I would receive in return.  Fortunately I still have a working x58 LE that was transplanted in its place.    
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