https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-p102-100-mining-gpu
 
The new P102-100 from Inno3D is a Crypto-Mining Accelerator that’s going to have zero resale value on the second-hand gaming market if there’s a crypto crash. I have no idea if this will help the gamers market or hurt them.
 

rjohnson11
I have no idea if this will help the gamers market or hurt them.

I have an idea; because according to Steam's monthly hardware survey, GeForce cards that use GP102 represent 0.47% of active accounts on Steam.


There is so much entitled drama in that article, it's revolting. If anyone thinks that half-percent represents all of PC gaming to determine its future if miners continued to get their way, they should be slapped.

The best way to pull miners to a card like this is to take a GTX 1070, remove the video out on them to make them cheaper, but make sure they could be used in a SLi configuration, if that can be done. So if cryptocurrency were to tank, people could still use the card in an SLi setup and they still have some value.

Not going to work. The big draw for GPU mining is reselling the massively abused hardware to unsuspecting buyers. So not only are they increasing product pricing and demand, but also screw over the second hand market. Gotta love those miners. I wish they'd all just go ASCI and have their very own market to be stupid in.

TheGutSteR
I think this is a little too late. Just reading up on the cryptocurrency news and people are being smacked with tax bills "because they didn't know" Which I posted on another thread would happen.  
 
 
 
Microcenter currently in my area has well over 20 cards 1070-1080 in stock so it looks like the market may begin to normalize soon. 

I agree. It is a bit late and no info whether there will be sufficient stock. I'm glad there are video cards in your area. There are some here but the GTX 1080ti stock is zero or very limited.

 
They can have them, as long as we get the non lite ones for our gaming. At a reasonable price I might add.  

The market for gpus used for crypto is going down in a spiral. Bitmain is coming out with an ethereum asic and is going to kill the gpus in MH/s and pretty soon the zcash market will have an asic too. It's only a matter of time before an asic is mining a coin so gpus will be back down

SneakyBrian
The market for gpus used for crypto is going down in a spiral. Bitmain is coming out with an ethereum asic and is going to kill the gpus in MH/s and pretty soon the zcash market will have an asic too. It's only a matter of time before an asic is mining a coin so gpus will be back down

The mining market for GPUs has been dying for about a month now, driven by coin prices dropping DOWN to a level not seen for a year or so and the resulting profitability that is noticeably WORSE right now than it was *2* years ago.
For perspective on the profitability - 2 summers back I was making about the same on my GPU mining as I am making right now - but I have 3 TIMES as many GPUs mining away to manage that and many of those GPUs are mining Zcash which didn't EXIST back then.
 
The Bitmain "E3" ASIC miner for Ethash coins like Ethereum is INFERIOR to a well-tuned 6-card rig in efficiency and barely a tossup on hashrate - and at the price of $1800 on the second batch it's not all that great on a comparative price basis (and fares VERY badly when the probability of it ever paying for itself is factored in) - and it doesn't even start shipping 'till MID JULY.
 
There are no reputable rumors of anyone even working on a equhash (like used in Zcash) ASIC, though I would not be shocked if one showed up.
The MARKET for such a unit is smaller than that for ethash miners, and the "window to sell them at a good profit" closed a couple months back after most of the current coin price dump happened.
 

Profitability CAN crash for the short term, but eventually enough folks will drop out that the "low electric cost" miners will become profitable again (and the folks with the LOWEST cost should stay profitable the whole time if coin prices drop SLOWLY) - but it might take 2-3 months this time around instead of the 2-3 weeks from the 2014 Litecoin/Darkcoin "end of the big profits" timeframe since there are so many MORE folks and rigs involved if there is a big sharp drop.
 
Coin prices seem like they might be hitting bottom though, with some small bumps.
 
Pascal isn't outdated yet, though I'd be a bit hesitant about building up new Pascal-based rigs right now that's more that I'm hesitant to built up new rigs AT ALL right now.
 
I suspect Bitmain made a mistake when they bumped Batch 2 of the E3 up from the Batch 1 price at $800 (marginal on chance to achieve 100% ROI) to $1800 (VERY VERY LOW PROBABILITY).
I note they're taking a lot longer to sell out on the second E3 batch.
 
The INTERESTING move they made this week was on their L3+ Scrypt miner - I have a strong suspicion that Scrypt may be about to see Bitmain finally release a 14/16nm node miner for Scrypt (the L3+ is 28nm), probably in the gigahash+ range but either lower power consumption than the Innosilicon A4 and BW.COM L21 units, or similar power consumption to the Innosilicon A6 but a lot more hashrate.
 
 

Completely agree with Leo about all that. It's not so much Pascal is outdated as I have said before as it is I wouldn't build a Pascal rig from scratch now. I still have a few Pascal cards but would not buy more unless prices got really good. I mean this from both a profit and gaming perspective

Profit wise I personally feel a person is better off buying btc under 7k vs investing in equipment. Game wise the I would like another 1080ti but know turning is right around the corner