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EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback

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2017/11/26 16:24:53 (permalink)
Since I got myself a Micro from UK and had time to tinker with it and my 7920X I‘d like to give some feedback for further improvements through bios updates.

First of all the board is pretty easy to work with and with a bit of experience overclocking is a walk in the park. The VRM heatsink was no issue so far. DRAM performance out of the box is pretty poor due to loose auto timings set from the mobo even @XMP but can be adressed manually.
 
This is what I could achieve with very tight second / third timings @ 3100Mhz Mesh. I think Write should be higher, but judge for yourself:
 



From other mobos I‘m used to have more advanced options in the bios, so I‘ll provide a list of options that are missing from the bios and that are crucial for some serious overclocking.

Missing options:
Disable SVID control
Load Line Calibration levels
Turbo boost 3.0
( and an indication of the rank of the individual core, helpful vor per-core overclocking )
Toggle over-current-protection /
Raise current limit for CPU

Missing RAM options:
RTLs/IOLs,
IO latency,
signal slopes (+ offsets),
DRAM ref voltage control

That‘s all that I can think of for now from the top of my head. Feel free to comment.

Bottom line: It’s nothing a new bios can’t fix. Hopefully EVGA puts their bios guys on it and implements some vital options. A pretty bios is one thing but enthusiast want all the options available to them and if pretty much all the competition has these options on their boards that‘s probably for a reason.
 
Edit: Also I found the nvme performance of my 960 Pro is around 15% lower than it should be. Read should be more like 3500 MB/s.
 

post edited by Snipes7 - 2017/11/27 08:45:49
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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/01 09:21:15 (permalink)
    For the life of me I can't get the DRAM Write value to play along side the others... RAM frequency won't influence it, timings barely influence it. The only thing impacting DRAM Write is the Mesh frequency so far. There must be some hidden obstacle due to some options that you don't have access to in the bios or some other optimizations that need to be made through a bios update.
     
    Using latest drivers, Win10, Bios and of course Aida64 versions.
     
    Mesh (North Bridge Clock) is actually at 3200Mhz it's just reading it wrong.
     

     
     
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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/02 04:35:11 (permalink)
    Dear good how much OC that monster, 58% OC.
    With memory depend a lot from kit you have. 
    My memory 16GB purchaced few months after X99 launch with 60-62MB/s couldn't compare
    with kits launched later dual sided 32GB with 70-75MB/s or even more on 8-10 cores models.
    But performance are equad with reviews and benchmarks made on beginning of X99.
    Except that my all write, read, copy almost perfectly match, I very rear seen something like that.
     


     
    I think before Windows update was 62-62-62.XXX MB./s.
    I suppose with 3200MHz kit performance would be arround 68-70.000.
    Your memory results are twice faster on X299.
     
    This is memory results for same processor as your, it's very hard to find accurate results for specific Skylake-X processor because many i9 models and difference is big probably. But this is same i9-7920X 4000MHz ASRock Taichi. You notice insane difference bettween Write and Read/Copy. 
     

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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/03 08:38:23 (permalink)
    Well if that dude would overclock his Mesh from 2400 to 3200 on his 7920X he would see massive gains across the board, too. Maybe it's normal that Write is low compared to the others on this processor. As you say it's not much data one can find on the big boys out there. 7900X scores higher when optimized aswell, that's why I thought the 12 Core must be at least equally as good. But maybe I'm wrong with that assumption.
     
    Definitely NVME performance of the 960 Pro is low on read on that board no matter what I do. Should be like 3500mb/s.
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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/11 01:37:26 (permalink)

     
    I can't make it more clear than that. I can tighten the timings as much as I want even @ 4000Mhz 15-15-15-35 1T and 260 tRFC the DRAM Write is terribly low. It's just stuck at this speed nothing but Mesh frequency is affecting it at all. It clearly lacks behind. Also Read should be above 120GB/s by now.
     
    And then there is the NVMe performance. Low Read on my 960 Pro. Waiting for a new bios.
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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/25 20:55:22 (permalink)
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    And then there is the NVMe performance. Low Read on my 960 Pro. Waiting for a new bios.



    X299 Dark BIOS 1.04 Windows 10 Samsung NVMe 2.3 driver installed. Samsung Magician reports sequential read at 2900-3300 MB/s, not 3500MB/s.  Sequential write 2000-2100MB/s.  Nothing else running.
     
    Edit: CrystalDiskMark 6.0.0 x64 (UWP) sequential read at 3360-3480MB/s.
     
    Edit: CrystalDiskMark without Samsung NVME 2.3 driver sequential read down to ~3200MB/s.
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    Re: EVGA X299 Micro issues / Bios feedback 2017/12/27 20:38:42 (permalink)
    It was around 3000 for me also in CrystalDiskmark. Can't use the Samsung driver right now since they put out a crap firmware that freezes the system in conjunction with samsung's own driver.
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