Really liked this as the move to 4K for consoles is going to be great for PC gamers as every gamer will be talking about 4K come this holiday season. The only thing is I didn't see enough reason yet I would upgrade my console. The games looked better in the videos than the Xbox One could do but I don't feel it's worth $500 to upgrade yet.

Wii/Wii U MS just pulled Nintendo from last gen. Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X. Makes sense. 

Squall_Rinoa86
Not for nothing... this made XBOX One owners who didn't buy it year 1, pointless. Not only that... why buy an Xbox One X when you can use a PC for better performance, and play the same games? There's literally no reason to buy it when you can play anything on XBOX on the PC???

I find that they brag far to much about the xbox, making it "powerful" yet they completely neutered it with bundling it to run on Windows... and then offer no real game changers or improvements other then 4k...

Then I seen the Forza 7 video and went well that looks kinda worse...

 
 
 
How about the Fact in order to build an 8 core PC with a 6TF GPU and 12gb of ram  9gb dedicated for devlopers  you have to spend well over  $600  consider you have  Motherboard-CPU-Ram-GPU-PSU-Case- 4K TV/Monitor optional- HDD  -and Windows   
 
The  Xbox one X  showed that  it  runs  games  with High end or Higher end PC setting   @ 60FPS doing Native 4K 

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86
Not for nothing... this made XBOX One owners who didn't buy it year 1, pointless. Not only that... why buy an Xbox One X when you can use a PC for better performance, and play the same games? There's literally no reason to buy it when you can play anything on XBOX on the PC???

I find that they brag far to much about the xbox, making it "powerful" yet they completely neutered it with bundling it to run on Windows... and then offer no real game changers or improvements other then 4k...

Then I seen the Forza 7 video and went well that looks kinda worse...

 
 
 
How about the Fact in order to build an 8 core PC with a 6TF GPU and 12gb of ram  9gb dedicated for devlopers  you have to spend well over  $600  consider you have  Motherboard-CPU-Ram-GPU-PSU-Case- 4K TV/Monitor optional- HDD  -and Windows   
 
The  Xbox one X  showed that  it  runs  games  with High end or Higher end PC setting   @ 60FPS doing Native 4K 

Still not Impressed. Sure.. you can do all that, on a closed platform, that has a lifespan of about 4 years.

Consoles are suppose to be 10yrs, or at least that's the standard Sony set itself for the PlayStation and has done a terrific job with that aspect.

I don't even own a 4k tv, but I have a 1440P monitor with no real need to move to a 4k TV Cause the cost makes it pointless for me and the fact HDR is not done properly till recently.

the GPU in the XBOX 1X is the same as if you were using a 1060 GTX.

Squall_Rinoa86

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86
Not for nothing... this made XBOX One owners who didn't buy it year 1, pointless. Not only that... why buy an Xbox One X when you can use a PC for better performance, and play the same games? There's literally no reason to buy it when you can play anything on XBOX on the PC???

I find that they brag far to much about the xbox, making it "powerful" yet they completely neutered it with bundling it to run on Windows... and then offer no real game changers or improvements other then 4k...

Then I seen the Forza 7 video and went well that looks kinda worse...

 
 
 
How about the Fact in order to build an 8 core PC with a 6TF GPU and 12gb of ram  9gb dedicated for devlopers  you have to spend well over  $600  consider you have  Motherboard-CPU-Ram-GPU-PSU-Case- 4K TV/Monitor optional- HDD  -and Windows   
 
The  Xbox one X  showed that  it  runs  games  with High end or Higher end PC setting   @ 60FPS doing Native 4K 

Still not Impressed. Sure.. you can do all that, on a closed platform, that has a lifespan of about 4 years.

Consoles are suppose to be 10yrs, or at least that's the standard Sony set itself for the PlayStation and has done a terrific job with that aspect.

I don't even own a 4k tv, but I have a 1440P monitor with no real need to move to a 4k TV Cause the cost makes it pointless for me and the fact HDR is not done properly till recently.

the GPU in the XBOX 1X is the same as if you were using a 1060 GTX.

 
One X is not a closed platform  t run windows  and does cross platform play - as  well as  will end up and does  now in soem forms run windows Apps   UWP  apps  it is all in the same echo system as PC .  now  sure you cant upgrade  the parts  but  it has horse power that  a  $500 PC  does not have  and $500 Ms  is taking a loss   on the system .   and the  one X does not requier a  4K TV to use it as  if you run a 1080P screen  you will benafit from that still   Higher quality everything higher framerate the works  . 
 
now to the poser  on the  4K 30FPS Destiny 2  well that is for all Platforms running the game not  just the xbox one X  it is a Developer choice to run it @ 30FPS

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86
Not for nothing... this made XBOX One owners who didn't buy it year 1, pointless. Not only that... why buy an Xbox One X when you can use a PC for better performance, and play the same games? There's literally no reason to buy it when you can play anything on XBOX on the PC???

I find that they brag far to much about the xbox, making it "powerful" yet they completely neutered it with bundling it to run on Windows... and then offer no real game changers or improvements other then 4k...

Then I seen the Forza 7 video and went well that looks kinda worse...

 
 
 
How about the Fact in order to build an 8 core PC with a 6TF GPU and 12gb of ram  9gb dedicated for devlopers  you have to spend well over  $600  consider you have  Motherboard-CPU-Ram-GPU-PSU-Case- 4K TV/Monitor optional- HDD  -and Windows   
 
The  Xbox one X  showed that  it  runs  games  with High end or Higher end PC setting   @ 60FPS doing Native 4K 

Still not Impressed. Sure.. you can do all that, on a closed platform, that has a lifespan of about 4 years.

Consoles are suppose to be 10yrs, or at least that's the standard Sony set itself for the PlayStation and has done a terrific job with that aspect.

I don't even own a 4k tv, but I have a 1440P monitor with no real need to move to a 4k TV Cause the cost makes it pointless for me and the fact HDR is not done properly till recently.

the GPU in the XBOX 1X is the same as if you were using a 1060 GTX.

 
One X is not a closed platform  t run windows  and does cross platform play - as  well as  will end up and does  now in soem forms run windows Apps   UWP  apps  it is all in the same echo system as PC .  now  sure you cant upgrade  the parts  but  it has horse power that  a  $500 PC  does not have  and $500 Ms  is taking a loss   on the system .   and the  one X does not requier a  4K TV to use it as  if you run a 1080P screen  you will benafit from that still   Higher quality everything higher framerate the works  . 
 
now to the poser  on the  4K 30FPS Destiny 2  well that is for all Platforms running the game not  just the xbox one X  it is a Developer choice to run it @ 30FPS

 
Luckily PC wont have that cap and can go 60+ fps. The rumor with the 30fps cap on Xbone X. Sony has something to do with it and has a deal with Bungie/Activision.

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86

notuptome2004

Squall_Rinoa86
Not for nothing... this made XBOX One owners who didn't buy it year 1, pointless. Not only that... why buy an Xbox One X when you can use a PC for better performance, and play the same games? There's literally no reason to buy it when you can play anything on XBOX on the PC???

I find that they brag far to much about the xbox, making it "powerful" yet they completely neutered it with bundling it to run on Windows... and then offer no real game changers or improvements other then 4k...

Then I seen the Forza 7 video and went well that looks kinda worse...

 
 
 
How about the Fact in order to build an 8 core PC with a 6TF GPU and 12gb of ram  9gb dedicated for devlopers  you have to spend well over  $600  consider you have  Motherboard-CPU-Ram-GPU-PSU-Case- 4K TV/Monitor optional- HDD  -and Windows   
 
The  Xbox one X  showed that  it  runs  games  with High end or Higher end PC setting   @ 60FPS doing Native 4K 

Still not Impressed. Sure.. you can do all that, on a closed platform, that has a lifespan of about 4 years.

Consoles are suppose to be 10yrs, or at least that's the standard Sony set itself for the PlayStation and has done a terrific job with that aspect.

I don't even own a 4k tv, but I have a 1440P monitor with no real need to move to a 4k TV Cause the cost makes it pointless for me and the fact HDR is not done properly till recently.

the GPU in the XBOX 1X is the same as if you were using a 1060 GTX.

 
One X is not a closed platform  t run windows  and does cross platform play - as  well as  will end up and does  now in soem forms run windows Apps   UWP  apps  it is all in the same echo system as PC .  now  sure you cant upgrade  the parts  but  it has horse power that  a  $500 PC  does not have  and $500 Ms  is taking a loss   on the system .   and the  one X does not requier a  4K TV to use it as  if you run a 1080P screen  you will benafit from that still   Higher quality everything higher framerate the works  . 
 
now to the poser  on the  4K 30FPS Destiny 2  well that is for all Platforms running the game not  just the xbox one X  it is a Developer choice to run it @ 30FPS

I think even a monkey can use google...
https://www.google.com/am...s-on-with-destiny-2-pc

Hoggle

BF3PRO
I'm getting it for Halo 6 and some of the exclusives.

That is kind of my thought on it. I play console games because of exclusives and sometimes because it just feels better depending on the game. I kind of view PC and console as two different things and really wouldn't want to play some games with a mouse and keyboard. A great example would be Rachet & Clank for the PS4 I enjoyed but really couldn't see it being better on a PC.

Gamepads work on PC, even ps4 controllers. Most games are always better on PC, including emulated ones if u can be patient enough for it.

boylerya

Hoggle

BF3PRO
I'm getting it for Halo 6 and some of the exclusives.

That is kind of my thought on it. I play console games because of exclusives and sometimes because it just feels better depending on the game. I kind of view PC and console as two different things and really wouldn't want to play some games with a mouse and keyboard. A great example would be Rachet & Clank for the PS4 I enjoyed but really couldn't see it being better on a PC.

Gamepads work on PC, even ps4 controllers. Most games are always better on PC, including emulated ones if u can be patient enough for it.

As long as the PC games fully support controllers with button prompts, then im fine with it. Sometimes I want to use a controller for a single player game.
 
Some games support PS4 button prompts too which is always awesome.

O ciN
All I want from consoles is to have cross-platform multiplayer. That way, everyone is happy no matter what console their friends have, etc. A lot of turbulence could be avoided that way.
 
That being said, the X Box One X seems pretty legit. I don't think it's worth upgrading from your OG X Box One, but if you were leaning towards buying your first XBone, then it might be good to go with the X.
 
That price tag though.  

 
Don't worry. The price will drop fast just like with Xbox One shortly after launch. They did not learn their lesson last time with the $499 price point. It will initially fly off the shelf and sell out just like Xbox One did. Thanks to the hardcore and dedicated Xbox fans. But in the long term after 2-3 months. Not happening. The masses don't like $499.  

FattysGoneWild

O ciN
All I want from consoles is to have cross-platform multiplayer. That way, everyone is happy no matter what console their friends have, etc. A lot of turbulence could be avoided that way.
 
That being said, the X Box One X seems pretty legit. I don't think it's worth upgrading from your OG X Box One, but if you were leaning towards buying your first XBone, then it might be good to go with the X.
 
That price tag though.  

 
Don't worry. The price will drop fast just like with Xbox One shortly after launch. They did not learn their lesson last time with the $499 price point. It will initially fly off the shelf and sell out just like Xbox One did. Thanks to the hardcore and dedicated Xbox fans. But in the long term after 2-3 months. Not happening. The masses don't like $499.  

 
It probably will not fall that fast. My guess is it will sell out for about 5-6 months. First I see them doing a game bundle or maybe an Xbox Live Gift card included. For holiday 2018 they probably will drop the price to $399 and go after the PS4 Pro. 

Yeah, the one was expensive Arby's launch.. you just have to wait a while and you will be good

I'd actually pick up a pro almost instantly with either of those pricetags