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Friday, February 03, 2017 10:34 PM
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Do you think it's a bit too early right now?
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Friday, February 03, 2017 10:53 PM
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There's no hard evidence of a 1080 Ti release. All we have are baseless rumors. The last rumor I read was a March release. If that were true, then you'd be good to go. However, who knows how long after a FTW, FTW Hybrid, Classified, or Kingpin would arrive.
Personally, I'm not buying into the idea of a 1080 Ti. I think we'll see a full-on Pascal refresh instead, with GP104 at higher clock speeds, GP102 at different CUDA core counts, and more cards with GDDR5X. Maybe even a new Titan with the full GP102 experience.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 3:39 PM
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I would recommend that, if you absolutely want to be within a potential 1080 Ti step up window, you wait until NVIDIA makes an announcement that a 1080 Ti exists or makes an announcement that it is on the horizon.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 7:29 PM
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Dont buy to step anything up, just wait for it. I think it'll be anounced mid year and released towards the end of the year maybe. Just wait for it, unless you really really need and upgrade now. Step up confuses me a bit, in my case i can't step up to an FTW or classified with my 1080 sc. Not sure how that works but just be careful not to buy something then not be able to step up.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 7:53 PM
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Unless it is built on a Reference card - you probably will not see a Ti Step-Up Also take note of the limited availability clause yomny
Dont buy to step anything up, just wait for it. I think it'll be anounced mid year and released towards the end of the year maybe. Just wait for it, unless you really really need and upgrade now. Step up confuses me a bit, in my case i can't step up to an FTW or classified with my 1080 sc. Not sure how that works but just be careful not to buy something then not be able to step up.
http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/excerpt: Terms and ConditionsGraphics Cards- EVGA will only release reference versions of its products, NVIDIA reference spec and clock, to the Step-Up program.
- Step-Up is limited to pre-approved graphics cards only and can only be used for exchange to a different and higher performing GPU.
- Products known to have a limited availability will not be made available to the Step-Up program. (Limited availability determined by EVGA.)
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 8:10 PM
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Unless it is built on a Reference card - you probably will not see a Ti Step-Up
Also take note of the limited availability clause
yomny
Dont buy to step anything up, just wait for it. I think it'll be anounced mid year and released towards the end of the year maybe. Just wait for it, unless you really really need and upgrade now. Step up confuses me a bit, in my case i can't step up to an FTW or classified with my 1080 sc. Not sure how that works but just be careful not to buy something then not be able to step up.
http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/
excerpt:
Terms and Conditions
Graphics Cards
- EVGA will only release reference versions of its products, NVIDIA reference spec and clock, to the Step-Up program.
- Step-Up is limited to pre-approved graphics cards only and can only be used for exchange to a different and higher performing GPU.
- Products known to have a limited availability will not be made available to the Step-Up program. (Limited availability determined by EVGA.)
- Customers who received their EVGA graphics card as part of a complete computer system are not eligible - except for those listed on our approved system vendor list.
While they say that, I think it confuses people when they see a GTX 1050Ti on the list of the products they can step up to. Or the time with the GTX 970??? It gives them faint hope.  But generally speaking step-up is limited, as you said, to reference GPUs.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 8:22 PM
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I agree it can be confusing and recommend all potential customers read the official program clauses.
My point was that if it is Not currently listed a a Step-Up option, you are throwing the dice; purchase now to "get a Step-Up".
There is no guarantee that the 1080Ti will be available any time soon (not even released on paper) or that it will ever be on the Step-Up list
As always, EVGA makes the decision on the Step-Up program --> We get to hope and wish for what we would like to see included
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 9:46 PM
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I am in a similar situation, stepup to 1080 SLI now, or wait for 1080ti
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 9:58 PM
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Wait don't do SLI. Unless you really doing games that exclusively support SLI and running 4K don't do it. SLI heat is really hard to control unless with water. In my case two out of the 4 or 5 games I play support SLI properly.
Those cards stacked one on top of the other with oem coolers throw lots of heat into the case.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:05 PM
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Wait don't do SLI. Unless you really doing games that exclusively support SLI and running 4K don't do it. SLI heat is really hard to control unless with water. In my case two out of the 4 or 5 games I play support SLI properly.
Those cards stacked one on top of the other with oem coolers throw lots of heat into the case.
Well the OEM blower style isn't so bad...But ACX results are all over the place. But fundamentally I agree. Even a 1080Ti (based on rumored specs) is going to be just enough for 4K with compromises. SLI 1080 or TITAN Pascal is 4K capable but, only with decent SLI scaling. td;lr we are not quite ready for single GPU 4K.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:42 PM
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I don't know I have to say I could play most if not all latest gpu intensive games on highest setting with a single 1080. This is in 4K at 60fps or slightly under. This of course isn't ideal frames or anything close but works just fine. I think the 1080ti will play through anything at 4K maxed settings, 60fps of course.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Sunday, February 05, 2017 3:14 AM
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I don't know I have to say I could play most if not all latest gpu intensive games on highest setting with a single 1080. This is in 4K at 60fps or slightly under. This of course isn't ideal frames or anything close but works just fine. I think the 1080ti will play through anything at 4K maxed settings, 60fps of course.
Just my thoughts.
That's why I said, 'just enough for 4K with some compromises'. (an opinion of course because my personal min FPS standard is 60 FPS) The rumored Ti is going to be slightly less powerful than the TITAN (P). So, if you're willing to pay the price, there is already an option superior to the rumored Ti.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Sunday, February 05, 2017 7:59 PM
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True that and supposedly the Ti could be priced near the Titan. You think they'd surpass the Titan? I dont. Lets see.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Sunday, February 05, 2017 9:21 PM
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Why even consider wasting the time and trouble of going through the step-up process, even "IF" there is even going to be a 1080Ti? I would get the latest/greatest I could afford or wait for the next nVidia chip iteration.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 06, 2017 0:27 PM
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Why even consider wasting the time and trouble of going through the step-up process, even "IF" there is even going to be a 1080Ti? I would get the latest/greatest I could afford or wait for the next nVidia chip iteration.
Well, it's kinda like 'renting' an incremental upgrade because you're too impatient to wait for what you really want. Ha ha....  Yes, I have used the Step Up Program...from 3-way SLI 470's to SLI 580's and used the 'extra' 470 for PhysX...Seemed to make sense at the time... 
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 06, 2017 1:05 AM
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Do you think it's a bit too early right now?
:-) What about the Classified 1080? It's the only card that EVGA aren't revising with ICX (so you can order with complete peace of mind) ;-) Best solution now, for people who don't want to wait -- and don't mind spending an extra € 55 ;-) P.S. Mine only needs 1.0v to get to 2151MHZ.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
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Do you think it's a bit too early right now?
@ icebladexi,About Your Computer. What Motherboard & CPU Do You Have Today That You Are Planning On Installing This Card On?
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 06, 2017 1:29 AM
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icebladexi
Do you think it's a bit too early right now?
:-)
What about the Classified 1080?
It's the only card that EVGA aren't revising with ICX (so you can order with complete peace of mind) ;-)
P.S.
Mine only needs 1.0v to get to 2151MHZ.
Where did you get that information? Are you assuming because there wasn't a specific one at CES 2017 that it won't exist? Maybe you should wait for EVGA to actually announce the models that are being revised, as only they know what cards will be released.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Tuesday, February 07, 2017 0:29 PM
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i got to say that when all the bother came out about the 1080ftw i thought well i could step-up to a classified only to find out that i couldn't the only way i could go was to step-down and i very much doubt EVGA would have given me back money if i did, go figure lol
step-up is what i like to call "false economy"
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Tuesday, February 07, 2017 3:59 PM
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I'll say it because these people here are being very nice about it.
Step up is NOT so you can rent a graphics card.
Step up is for those people who bought a graphics card and got screwed by Nvidia because they don't announce release schedules so they don't canibalize their old junk graphics cards that are at end of life.
When you plan around a step up, you are actually screwing the vendor because you are getting the packaging and rental of a card and the othership of another card for the same price.
Now I can't say I blame anyone for using the step up to the best of their ability. EVGA gets to market step up, so we get to use it. However, planning to buy now and step up in a month to get a TI card is in my opinion, mildly abusive to the step up system imho.
On topic, the TI will probably release in early March. You won't be able to step up to it most likely, if you buy now. Stock will be an issue and I don't think they will let you step up to a 1080 ti at all or at least right off the bat.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Tuesday, February 07, 2017 4:15 PM
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I'll say it because these people here are being very nice about it.
Step up is NOT so you can rent a graphics card.
Step up is for those people who bought a graphics card and got screwed by Nvidia because they don't announce release schedules so they don't canibalize their old junk graphics cards that are at end of life.
When you plan around a step up, you are actually screwing the vendor because you are getting the packaging and rental of a card and the othership of another card for the same price.
Now I can't say I blame anyone for using the step up to the best of their ability. EVGA gets to market step up, so we get to use it. However, planning to buy now and step up in a month to get a TI card is in my opinion, mildly abusive to the step up system imho.
On topic, the TI will probably release in early March. You won't be able to step up to it most likely, if you buy now. Stock will be an issue and I don't think they will let you step up to a 1080 ti at all or at least right off the bat.
 Sadly you would not believe how many people think that it is all it is for. This Forum turned into a Step-Up Nightmare with people demanding their Step-Up GTX 10xx Cards NOW.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 13, 2017 9:57 AM
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my issue wth the icx upgrade is even if it is released now in march will it even be on the stepup list?
yea i can see it being a good ''sales'' point for 1060/70 owners but if you already own a 1080 and pay 100$ to upgrade to the icx to allow you 90 days of stepup
who can confirm that IF the TI is out before then that it will be on the list?
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 13, 2017 3:48 PM
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I'll say it because these people here are being very nice about it.
Step up is NOT so you can rent a graphics card.
Step up is for those people who bought a graphics card and got screwed by Nvidia because they don't announce release schedules so they don't canibalize their old junk graphics cards that are at end of life.
When you plan around a step up, you are actually screwing the vendor because you are getting the packaging and rental of a card and the othership of another card for the same price.
Now I can't say I blame anyone for using the step up to the best of their ability. EVGA gets to market step up, so we get to use it. However, planning to buy now and step up in a month to get a TI card is in my opinion, mildly abusive to the step up system imho.
On topic, the TI will probably release in early March. You won't be able to step up to it most likely, if you buy now. Stock will be an issue and I don't think they will let you step up to a 1080 ti at all or at least right off the bat.
Sadly you would not believe how many people think that it is all it is for.
This Forum turned into a Step-Up Nightmare with people demanding their Step-Up GTX 10xx Cards NOW.
I don't understand - if that is not the purpose of Step Up, then what is it for?
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
Monday, February 13, 2017 5:06 PM
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I'll say it because these people here are being very nice about it.
Step up is NOT so you can rent a graphics card.
Step up is for those people who bought a graphics card and got screwed by Nvidia because they don't announce release schedules so they don't canibalize their old junk graphics cards that are at end of life.
When you plan around a step up, you are actually screwing the vendor because you are getting the packaging and rental of a card and the othership of another card for the same price.
Now I can't say I blame anyone for using the step up to the best of their ability. EVGA gets to market step up, so we get to use it. However, planning to buy now and step up in a month to get a TI card is in my opinion, mildly abusive to the step up system imho.
On topic, the TI will probably release in early March. You won't be able to step up to it most likely, if you buy now. Stock will be an issue and I don't think they will let you step up to a 1080 ti at all or at least right off the bat.
Sadly you would not believe how many people think that it is all it is for.
This Forum turned into a Step-Up Nightmare with people demanding their Step-Up GTX 10xx Cards NOW.
I don't understand - if that is not the purpose of Step Up, then what is it for?
The purpose of the Step-Up program is that it creates a rough three month investment in case you need an upgrade, but you're worried about a new product being released right after you purchase. It gives you some peace of mind that the product you purchase won't suddenly drop in value a month or two after purchase, when you can no longer return a product to your retailer. I understand that, in practice, people sometimes purchase cards hoping or expecting that new products will be released within that 90 days and use the purchased card until they can upgrade to a new product. We, EVGA, can't really tell you how to use the program beyond putting out the terms and conditions for the Step-Up program, but we also cannot tell you about the schedule for unreleased products to help people make their decision. Even if Nvidia announced a release date for a new product, we're generally bound not to discuss those products until they officially launch. Due to these unpredictable factors, the Step-Up program cannot really inform you whether to plan for an upgrade or not, nor can you really plan around it. Instead, it's as I said earlier, the Step-Up program is not really designed to be the end-game of your graphics card purchase, but rather a benefit of protecting your investment in case an upgrade releases within those first 90 days after purchase.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
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I have never done Step Up so I see. thanks for the explanation.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
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Think of those that bought their card knowimg that nvidia was going to launch the 1080ti at CES, so they bought their cards in November and December. It was a huge pie in the face for them, when nothing launched. They "knew" they were covered, so when CES rolled past with no information, and they were putside of the 30 day return window, it hurt their step up chances. Now they are stuck with cards they didnt actually want, but just wanted to use for step up purposes.
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Re: When do you think is a good time to buy to be within the step up time for a 1080 ti?
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I also think the Step-Up is for someone:
That thought an entry level card would give enough performance. After running the "new" card they decide that it would have been a better value to get a faster, more expensive card.
Or a new game launches that requires more power than their recent purchased GPU can handle
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