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ok i want to build a reasonably priced production pc that can game in my past time. nothing overly demanding on games really. i really like MMO Games like World of Warcraft. a few 1st Person like Tomb Raider or Bioshock Series. but my Fav pastimes is lego games when i don't feel like dealing with people on MMO's. but its the setting that are the kicker. i want to run in what i call eye candy mode with all the setting maxed out.
People saying since it is production 1st people have told me a am4 with either a 1700x or 1800x if i splurge would be best platform to build on. i know in past decade ago nvidia and amd systems fought each other. but i prefer nvidia and worried a Z270 just wouldn't suit my production needs.
back to my question. with running adobe for video and photo editing as well as eye candy gaming, would i be better off with a Titan Xp or could a 1080 Ti take care of all my requirements?
looking to spend 2,000 to 3,000 in pc costs so that rules out a loaded MacBook Pro like i have now.
Thanks in Advance: Alice P. Arthington
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 17:49:23
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A 1080 ti will do the job.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 17:54:22
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1080 Ti will do it... with ease. WoW has never demanded amazing hardware though.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 17:54:42
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I second that. The 1080Ti has the same basic capability as the titan for substantially less. The Ryzen 8 core are the way to currently for production workloads, but mainly for multithreaded workloads like compiling code and rendering.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 17:59:13
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yeah i was thinking that the Titan Xp curent model was overpriced for the little gains u get. i figured a single 1080 Ti would do all i need for about 1/2 the cost. why waste the cash for one more memory chip and the few extra cuda cores.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:02:19
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ipkha I second that. The 1080Ti has the same basic capability as the titan for substantially less. The Ryzen 8 core are the way to currently for production workloads, but mainly for multithreaded workloads like compiling code and rendering.
yeah i figured more cores for rendering. the gaming wouldent be to demanding other then eye candy at 4k. its the video ediing that i thought the miniITX BIOSTAR :: X370GTN :: Motherboard would work best for my needs and keep cost low.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:03:39
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AliceSML79 yeah i was thinking that the Titan Xp curent model was overpriced for the little gains u get. i figured a single 1080 Ti would do all i need for about 1/2 the cost. why waste the cash for one more memory chip and the few extra cuda cores.
Exactly what I said when I went into the Apple store to pick up my iPhone. Dude was like "buy this MacBook" and I was like "LOL for the same money I can build an amazing PC with 4x the hardware." ... and I did. Good luck with your build.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:20:16
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thanks. yeah i priced a new MacBook Pro 15" and the coust could build a amazing build.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:28:37
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You could stick with the Z line or go with the X chipset which is usually suitable for that kind of workload. Sure you can use either or but the X is better suited for it. Either you want to wait for the new X chipset in the next few months or grab the existing X99. I'd personally wait for the new chipset if you went the X route.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:53:08
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if i go intell id wait for the new X299 lines to drop
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 18:54:05
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AliceSML79 if i go intell id wait for the new X299 lines to drop
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 19:18:19
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would this be a good CaseLab's Case to build in??? Mercury S8 - Customizable $573.95 White, ATX or SSI EEB, Drop-in with no mount, Top Cover Full Window, Left Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Right Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Front Cover Window, Two HDD cages, USB 3.0/HD Audio Pedestal - Mercury S8 and S8S $214.95 White, Front Standard Front Cover with Ventilated Bay Cover, Rear 120.2 Fan Holes
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 19:47:06
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AliceSML79 yeah i was thinking that the Titan Xp curent model was overpriced for the little gains u get. i figured a single 1080 Ti would do all i need for about 1/2 the cost. why waste the cash for one more memory chip and the few extra cuda cores.
Titan Xp is aimed at people working with AI, neural networks, etc ... For most people the Ti is more than enough.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 19:50:04
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AliceSML79 if i go intell id wait for the new X299 lines to drop
You should wait until Computex (starts may 30th I think). There are rumors that AMD is gonna show 16c/32t chips, so you might want to see what they offer and if it drops prices on what is available now.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 19:54:12
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AliceSML79 would this be a good CaseLab's Case to build in??? Mercury S8 - Customizable$573.95 White, ATX or SSI EEB, Drop-in with no mount, Top Cover Full Window, Left Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Right Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Front Cover Window, Two HDD cages, USB 3.0/HD Audio Pedestal - Mercury S8 and S8S$214.95 White, Front Standard Front Cover with Ventilated Bay Cover, Rear 120.2 Fan Holes
CaseLab's cases are great. The only thing I don't like is the price.  If you are going to spend that much money in a case, you might want to consider the Magnum SMA8 model.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 20:20:31
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AliceSML79 if i go intell id wait for the new X299 lines to drop
You should wait until Computex (starts may 30th I think). There are rumors that AMD is gonna show 16c/32t chips, so you might want to see what they offer and if it drops prices on what is available now.
I had herd rumors of the 16c/32t chip being released at some point. redleader00
AliceSML79 would this be a good CaseLab's Case to build in??? Mercury S8 - Customizable$573.95 White, ATX or SSI EEB, Drop-in with no mount, Top Cover Full Window, Left Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Right Door Standard Window with Ventilation, Front Cover Window, Two HDD cages, USB 3.0/HD Audio Pedestal - Mercury S8 and S8S$214.95 White, Front Standard Front Cover with Ventilated Bay Cover, Rear 120.2 Fan Holes
CaseLab's cases are great. The only thing I don't like is the price.  If you are going to spend that much money in a case, you might want to consider the Magnum SMA8 model.
Caselabs are way more then i wanted to spend but everyone sweats by them. i origgnly was looking at the window version of the bitfenix portal.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/13 21:13:43
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people keep saying case labs is best but i found a second option that can hold dual 560mm rad setup. its the Thermaltake The Tower 900 thats only $250 way cheaper then a CaseLabs S8 Mercury with pedistal and tripple 360mm Rads. at $750 roughly.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 00:40:09
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For +€268 more of the price of the titan xp i ordered 2xFTW3. I think thats much more power for AE than one single xp :D It will replace my 3-way-titan black sli (a third card dont bring much more power). So 2 cards is the best way.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 00:56:59
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Mappi75 For +€268 more of the price of the titan xp i ordered 2xFTW3. I think thats much more power for AE than one single xp :D It will replace my 3-way-titan black sli (a third card dont bring much more power). So 2 cards is the best way.
from what i here multi card over 2 just isnt what its up too anymore.not since they dropped support for anything over 2 cards. if u want more then 2 now best to do amd crossfire. nvidia has had some weird decisions lately.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 01:42:37
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AliceSML79 from what i here multi card over 2 just isnt what its up too anymore.not since they dropped support for anything over 2 cards. if u want more then 2 now best to do amd crossfire. nvidia has had some weird decisions lately.
2-way SLI/Xfire is the most one should go. Anything beyond that is a waste. Nonetheless, Nvidia has been dominating for some time now. That's not to say Vega won't do any damage or compete well which I hope they really do to get some competition in the market place and hope for some price adjustments. Keep your ears and eyes wide open two weeks from Tuesday. (May 30 - June 3rd)
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 03:55:00
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AliceSML79 from what i here multi card over 2 just isnt what its up too anymore.not since they dropped support for anything over 2 cards. if u want more then 2 now best to do amd crossfire. nvidia has had some weird decisions lately.
2-way SLI/Xfire is the most one should go. Anything beyond that is a waste. Nonetheless, Nvidia has been dominating for some time now. That's not to say Vega won't do any damage or compete well which I hope they really do to get some competition in the market place and hope for some price adjustments. Keep your ears and eyes wide open two weeks from Tuesday. (May 30 - June 3rd)
sweet, ill keep a ear out
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 06:31:57
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Intel are announcing their X299 Kabylake-X and Skylake-X processes at the end of May for a (supposedly) end of June release. Even if youre not going for a HEDT it might push down the prices of the non HEDT chips, or even X99 chips if you can wait that long.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/14 06:36:51
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I think you should by GTX1080Ti. For guys who can afford and have watercooling and think about installing waterblock it's better TITAN Xp off course. Full premium chip, faster memory bandwidth, better card. But something need to be done with cooling on TITAN Xp.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 03:24:52
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Valtrius Malleus Intel are announcing their X299 Kabylake-X and Skylake-X processes at the end of May for a (supposedly) end of June release. Even if youre not going for a HEDT it might push down the prices of the non HEDT chips, or even X99 chips if you can wait that long.
yeah the x299 dose sound like it wil be impressive. i wonder what new tech will be on it. id love to se built in thunderbolt 3 suport. Vlada011 I think you should by GTX1080Ti. For guys who can afford and have watercooling and think about installing waterblock it's better TITAN Xp off course. Full premium chip, faster memory bandwidth, better card. But something need to be done with cooling on TITAN Xp.
i had heard how the Titan Xp has a thermal problm. its almoust needs to be water cooled.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 03:33:41
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Not only TITAN Xp, same is with GTX1080Ti Founders Edition. I would bought Founders Edition only if no money for other and than later to think how to cooldown, just to have GTX1080Ti. If GTX1080 Founders Edition is hot (80C) with 70-80W less power consumption, imagine than GTX1080Ti and TITAN Xp with turbine. Cooler need to work on 80% min all the time during gaming.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 03:45:37
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Vlada011 Not only TITAN Xp, same is with GTX1080Ti Founders Edition. I would bought Founders Edition only if no money for other and than later to think how to cooldown, just to have GTX1080Ti. If GTX1080 Founders Edition is hot (80C) with 70-80W less power consumption, imagine than GTX1080Ti and TITAN Xp with turbine. Cooler need to work on 80% min all the time during gaming.
i have seriously thought of making my first watercooled pc. but worry if i might srew it up bad. so debating IGH POWERED air cooled rig too.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 04:06:01
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Vlada011 Not only TITAN Xp, same is with GTX1080Ti Founders Edition. I would bought Founders Edition only if no money for other and than later to think how to cooldown, just to have GTX1080Ti. If GTX1080 Founders Edition is hot (80C) with 70-80W less power consumption, imagine than GTX1080Ti and TITAN Xp with turbine. Cooler need to work on 80% min all the time during gaming.
i have seriously thought of making my first watercooled pc. but worry if i might srew it up bad. so debating IGH POWERED air cooled rig too.
If you really like you should do that... I never build watercooling but I would know, it's easy if you use soft tubes and nice compression fittings. Chance for leak are extremely low if you done everything nice, if you choose nice parts as example combo of D5 pump and 100/200 reservoir. I can't afford but I would order parts instantly, I have everything in head what I need for nice loop.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 04:13:48
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i was thinking dual ekwb res pump combos and adding some aluminum heatsinks by bits power to keep pumps cool and quiet. and i was looking at 1/2id soft tubbing with compression fittings because seam to be most leak resitNT. HARD TUBBING IS NICE BUT WAY OVER MY HEAD FOR 1. 2 it is less forgiving then soft tubbing.
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 04:17:17
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Yes hard tubing is probably more sensitive on vibration and moving than soft tubes. Why you need dual pump? Single is not enough?
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Re: 1080 Ti vs. Titan Xp
2017/05/15 04:18:48
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i was thinking a dual loop. gpu and cpu seprate
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