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Thursday, October 06, 2016 7:50 AM (permalink)
Refer to my post in the General Software section below.
 
Basically, I've been having issues with BF4 stuttering. This seems to be the only thing affected as Cinebench, 3dmark, prime95, and other games (such as Ark) function completely normally. I've kinda reached a dead end with my testing so I'm wondering if maybe the PSU is to blame.
 
Note: Tomorrow I will check the voltages on the 12V rail when I get home from work and try out some BF4. The issue is NOT immediate. The game plays smoothly for about 10 minutes before getting extremely choppy. After that, closing the game and re-opening it causes the issue to happen immediately with no 10 minute grace period. This is why I'm possibly suspecting the PSU. Could this be result of overheating or bad capacitors, etc.?
 
Also, how could I test PSU temp?
 
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100% FRESH build, win7 pro 64-bit, NVidia drivers downloaded directly from their site (NOT via Windows update/automatic install).
 
Bios: V2.02 & 8/29/2016 Chipset driver (most recent)
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo: EVGA x99 FTW K
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW
Ram: GSkill F4-3200C14Q-GTZ
PSU: EVGA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Cooler: Swiftech H320 X2 Prestige
 
Temps are fine, CPU is less than 45C while gaming, GPU temps remain below 68C while gaming with the core clock being in the 2000Mhz range.
The game runs smooth for about 5-10 minutes before I start getting insane packet loss & stuttering.
1.) https://puu.sh/rvzAy/1cb782f66f.png
2.) https://puu.sh/rvzCk/c8e4764086.png
3.) https://puu.sh/rvzJB/185278990b.png
The yellow spikes are the packet loss, the graph given by BF4's internal network graphing.
 
I've tried repairing the game, the game is a FRESH install on a secondary HDD (had it this way for previous build and it worked fine with NO packet loss or issues). I'm using the Intel NIC on this motherboard and it's updated to the most recent drivers. I've tried turning "Optimize Network" "on" and "off" within BF4 itself with no luck. At first I thought it was just one server but the issue carries over to other ones too, ruling that out.
 
3dmark11 score: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11623739
Cinebench: (top 3 are me, scores differ due to having background programs open when doing the test) https://puu.sh/rvAMg/522312b9b2.png
^Obviously no performance issues there.
 
Don't really know what else to do considering this issue never happened before to me. Every driver is current, FPS is 110+ on ultra at 1440p before this happens, temps are extremely low, yet I get stuttering which causes FPS to dip between 40-70, GPU usage spikes and has a sharp decrease (99% to 30% to 50%, etc. etc.)
 
Thanks for help in advance!
Note: IT'S ONLY WITH BATTLEFIELD 4.
 
 
UPDATE:
1.) Issue happens after a few minutes both in Multiplayer & Singleplayer.
2.) Rolling back Nvidia drivers did not solve the issue nor did re-installing current drivers while using DDU.
3.) Updated Router firmware & made sure my Intel NIC was up to date. No change.
4.) G-sync enabled/disabled. No change.
5.) CPU OC/base clocks. No change.
6.) GPU OC/base clocks. No change.
7.) Repaired the game. No change.
8.) Temperatures are well within reasonable limits.
 
I'm at a loss here for what to do.

post edited by SethH - Friday, October 14, 2016 5:56 AM

September 2016 Build Specs:
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 7:56 AM (permalink)
I doubt it's overheating, but you can enable fan always and Disable Eco Mode.
You need to test voltage in idle and under full load.

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:04 AM (permalink)
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I doubt it's overheating, but you can enable fan always and Disable Eco Mode.
You need to test voltage in idle and under full load.




Eco Mode is off. I DO feel warm air coming out from the back so the airflow isn't restricted with the fan down...I was pretty sure it wasn't overheating because I don't smell anything funky etc. but I just mentioned it as a "what if".
 
And alright I'll do that when I get home. The variance shouldn't be more than .05 right? so if it's 12.000 then anything within 11.950 and 12.050 is okay right?
 
 
Thanks for the quick reply by the way.

September 2016 Build Specs:
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Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 1:39 PM (permalink)
Okay SO:
 
In the BIOS, +12V reports as fluctuating between 12.110V and 12.036V
AFTER booting into Windows: https://puu.sh/rzF8a/eaea80e0b3.png It hovers at around 10.2V....time to RMA? This Voltage was also reported in OCCT.

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 4:42 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:30 PM
That's terrible 12V rail, HWInfo64 is very accurate software. 
Is it possible to check with voltmeter on molex 12V rail.
You see normal 12V rail on 1200 P2 in last HWInfo... 
 

Some variation is possible, you will not always have same numbers, this is only picture when I exit from game and screenshot to compare with your.
Something is not right with your voltage.
post edited by Vlada011 - Thursday, October 06, 2016 4:45 PM

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:10 PM (permalink)

 
There's so many voltages for this board. The VRIN for what I'm assuming is the VRM (or part of it), is 12V +- .03V
 
The one up top by the +5V rail does NOT look correct at all. Should I contact EVGA support? And I wouldn't know how to go about testing voltage with a Molex (also considering it took me like 10 minutes to get the Molex for the case connected because of how bad pins alignment is on them)

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:25 PM (permalink)
That above with 3VSB and 5V you should look.
Chacke with AIDA64 under Sensor settings.

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:30 PM (permalink)
I only have the Aida64 trial so I can't see it unless I spend $40.
 
The BIOS reports 12V normally. The discrepancy lies with the programs.
 
I've tried unparking all my cores and am going to give that a shot just to rule that out.
 
I spoke with EVGA Technical Support and he said that I could test the voltages using the ProbeIt cable that came with the motherboard. He also said that the software is not always accurate and could be wrong. Time to pull out the multimeter haha.
post edited by SethH - Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:56 PM

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:57 PM (permalink)

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
Monitor: ASUS PG279Q - 1440p, 165Hz, G-sync
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 7:51 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:30 PM
ATX Specification: 
 
12V: 11.40 to 12.60  
5V: 4.75 to 5.25  
3V: 3.135 to 3.465.
 
If any of your rails hit the minimum spec I would replace the psu.   
 
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:00 PM (permalink)
The EVGA Tech said the software can be off...although both my 5V and 3V readings are correct/within spec. BIOS reports the 12V within spec but software doesn't.

I want to test the 12V under load to see what it's at but the ProbeIt slot on the Mobo doesn't seem to have a 12V wire/spot? How else can I do this feasibly?

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
Monitor: ASUS PG279Q - 1440p, 165Hz, G-sync
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:04 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:30 PM
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How else can I do this feasibly?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/...;ndfaq_id=28%C2%A0(You
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:16 PM (permalink)
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SethH
How else can I do this feasibly?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/...;ndfaq_id=28%C2%A0(You


Plug molex connector into PSU, use DMM to test the voltage output at whatever time I'd like. Thanks :D

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 7:22 AM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:30 PM
Could be conflicting third party programs that use overlays (monitoring programs, in game features) or even a USB polling issue (what usb devices are connected to your computer and what mouse are you using?)
 
You are incredibly over powered for BF4, so normal issues with very high FPS and third party programs may be involved.. 
What screen res are you running and what is your monitor setup?
Its highly unlikely you have a PSU issue, software monitoring is never perfect and very often misleading... only a voltage meter should be trusted.
 
Make sure you have NOT installed the Geforce experience, if so reinstall the driver in custom mode and uncheck it. Reboot once after the driver install is complete -before- starting the game. This program is worse than useless for any 1080 user and should NEVER be installed.
--->Make SURE your NVCP is reset to -defaults- before starting testing, your 1080 has alot of unsupported features in BF4 and you will get the very best performance/quality using NVCP defaults and full Ultra settings in-game (with only max MSAA suggested at your performance levels depending on your monitor setup)
 
Next I would suggest turning OFF the in game monitoring feature, then close the game and then close Origin. Reboot, start origin, start game and verify its not running. While useful this feature should NOT be used when testing as it can CONFLICT with other programs that use overlays...
 
Next uninstall Precision completely and reboot the computer, we don't want precision running for our first testing pass.
 
Now test and you should be able to "tell" right away if the in game monitoring/Precision conflicts was the issue
 
You can put Precision back in for fan control and OC,s just dont use any overlays while playing, and you can always use the draw FPS command in game
 
 
 
post edited by maniacvvv - Friday, October 07, 2016 7:49 AM




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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 9:12 AM (permalink)
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Could be conflicting third party programs that use overlays (monitoring programs, in game features) or even a USB polling issue (what usb devices are connected to your computer and what mouse are you using?)
 
You are incredibly over powered for BF4, so normal issues with very high FPS and third party programs may be involved.. 
What screen res are you running and what is your monitor setup?
Its highly unlikely you have a PSU issue, software monitoring is never perfect and very often misleading... only a voltage meter should be trusted.
 
Make sure you have NOT installed the Geforce experience, if so reinstall the driver in custom mode and uncheck it. Reboot once after the driver install is complete -before- starting the game. This program is worse than useless for any 1080 user and should NEVER be installed.
--->Make SURE your NVCP is reset to -defaults- before starting testing, your 1080 has alot of unsupported features in BF4 and you will get the very best performance/quality using NVCP defaults and full Ultra settings in-game (with only max MSAA suggested at your performance levels depending on your monitor setup)
 
Next I would suggest turning OFF the in game monitoring feature, then close the game and then close Origin. Reboot, start origin, start game and verify its not running. While useful this feature should NOT be used when testing as it can CONFLICT with other programs that use overlays...
 
Next uninstall Precision completely and reboot the computer, we don't want precision running for our first testing pass.
 
Now test and you should be able to "tell" right away if the in game monitoring/Precision conflicts was the issue
 
You can put Precision back in for fan control and OC,s just dont use any overlays while playing, and you can always use the draw FPS command in game



1.) USB devices: EVGA Torq X10 mouse (mobo), Razer Blackwidow Chroma keyboard (mobo), and  wireless transmitter for my headset (attached to the case USB)
 
2.) One monitor, ASUS PG279Q - 1440p
 
3.) Geforce Experience is installed but optimization, etc. is all turned off. I only use it for updates (had it the same way in last build)
 
4.) Settings are all on the Ultra preset in BF4. For NVCP, monitor setting is changed to "single display optimized" instead of "multiple display optimized" & power usage is set to "Prefer maximum performance".
 
5.) Precision X is not installed. I use Afterburner without any overlay. Those GPU/CPU usage charts were from within Afterburner itself. For FPS monitoring I had used Fraps which I've always known to be reliable and not cause issues.
 
6.) Origin in-game is turned off also.
 
 
Literally this game will run butter smooth for ~10 minutes and then the issues occur. Other times, it will be this way within 30 seconds.
post edited by SethH - Friday, October 07, 2016 9:17 AM

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 2:05 PM (permalink)

 
Sensors using Aida64.
 
1.) OCCT - 10.2V
2.) HWInfo64 - 10.2V
3.) Aida64 - 10.2V
 
All programs are showing the same bad voltage, yet my 5V and 3V are within spec. I will be testing with a DMM today (hopefully in less than a few hours).

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1200P2
Case: EVGA DG-87
Fans: 3x Corsair ML120 Pro Blue, 5x Corsair ML140 Pro Blue
SSD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB, Sandisk 240GB, 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" HDD (generic Seagate), WD Black 5TB
Monitor: ASUS PG279Q - 1440p, 165Hz, G-sync
Keyboard: G.Skill RIPJAWS KM780 RGB (Cherry MX blues)
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 3:03 PM (permalink)
UPDATE: DMM reads a constant 12.17V from a Molex connector at idle and under load. Also reads the 5V at ~5.5V.
I just noticed that with GE3 it has the Overlay start up by default (which I didn't realize because most of the time I'm tabbed while the map loads on BF4, especially the first time). Game started stuttering, I tabbed out and closed GE and the stuttering went away. I'll post back later with results when I actually play for real.

September 2016 Build Specs:
OS: Win7 Pro 64-bit
CPU: i7-6950X @ 4.4Ghz - 1.32V
Mobo: EVGA X99 FTW K
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ 3200Mhz C14 Memory (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080TI FTW3
CPU Cooler: EKWB Custom Loop (updating soon)
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 7:05 PM (permalink)
GE3? You mean Geforce Experience?
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Friday, October 07, 2016 7:17 PM (permalink)
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GE3? You mean Geforce Experience?


Yeh. I shortened it to two letters. Geforce Experience 3 (GE3).

Reinstalling drivers with DDU didn't solve the issue even with "clean installation" checked and only PhysX and the Graphics Driver checked. The NVCP also disappeared from my tray but it's not a big deal as it keeps the settings I put even when closed.

The game still gets choppy, GPU power & GPU Usage look like a heart beating fast (up, down, up down, etc.) even after setting everything to default, restarting PC, then putting my settings back (high performance, Vsync, etc)

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 0:27 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:31 PM
Lets review... as suspected, its not a voltage issue
The GFE was INSTALLED and RUNNING... turning it off produced--> immediate noticeable improvement
 
"The game still gets choppy, GPU power & GPU Usage look like a heart beating fast (up, down, up down, etc.) even after setting everything to default, restarting PC, then putting my settings back (high performance, Vsync, etc)"
 
Yes the BF4 (frostbite engine) is NOT stable looking at graphs, even more so when running overpowered...
-->there is no need to worry and you can stop looking at graphs. there is nothing to be done about the BF4 engine framerate issues, playing online with others over the internet, Nvidia boost clock behavior and many other factors that can present on most users machines..
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Lets address the "choppy" you are still seeing 
 
Fraps should --NOT-- be used for FPS monitoring, just like the GFE it can "default" and attempt to record gameplay to your hard drive in case you want to hit a key and save the last few minutes of game play. This can CAUSE exactly the types of "chop" you are reporting.
-->Just use the BF4 CMD line for the draw FPS command, no overhead (its built into the game engine) and no issues
 
Afterburner is a great program I also use, I suggest uninstalling the program completely (and make SURE to check "DO NOT SAVE DATA and SETTINGS" during the uninstall. Reboot the computer once.
Now reinstall (always only the latest available version, never a older one) BUT uncheck the RIVA tuner stat server during the install, since you not using its services its one more thing the can cause problems.
 
And lastly--> your running a very fast IPS panel display at the perfect res for BF4 and your 1080
Refresh rates (NVCP and in-game) and use of any type of VSync (NVCP and in-game) -must- be carefully researched and applied correctly or you will CREATE the very "choppy" issues you are reporting.
 
In my opinion you really have 3 choices:  
#1 You could run with no Vsync at all in the NVCP or in game at matched refresh rates in the NVCP and in-game (my personal favorite) 
#2 Use the Nvidia G-sync feature with matched refresh rates in the NVCP and in-game
#3 Use "adaptive refresh" VSync in the NVCP and Vsync OFF in-game
 
Test with all 3 of the above and see what gives you the best experience
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A personal note:  Test the crap out of your system with monitoring programs and programs like Futuremark and Unigine and even your game..
But when it comes time to really PLAY, try not to have -anything- else running in the background, this removes all possible conflicts and problem causing issues. I personally go so far as to have a dedicated HD/OS/BF4 install just for playing, and its completely free of everything but Afterburner for fan control... its the only way to be certain what is caused by the game and what is caused by what most users have on their primary OS drive..
-->the kitchen sink and all the leftover garbage that goes with it    
 
 
 
 
post edited by maniacvvv - Saturday, October 08, 2016 0:52 PM




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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 5:01 AM (permalink)
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In my opinion you really have 3 choices:  
#1 You could run with no Vsync at all in the NVCP or in game at matched refresh rates in the NVCP and in-game (my personal favorite) 
#2 Use the Nvidia G-sync feature with matched refresh rates in the NVCP and in-game
#3 Use "adaptive refresh" VSync in the NVCP and Vsync OFF in-game
 
Test with all 3 of the above and see what gives you the best experience
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Already tried 1 & 2 with no luck. Vsync & Gsync on or off result in the same problem, regardless of refresh rate.
 
I think removing Geforce Experience was a placebo because the issue came back.
 
https://puu.sh/rzVvT/edd68e9f3f.png - This is my GPU Usage chart. At 99% it's great and I have smooth gameplay...then it does the funky stuff on the right.
At the same time, GPU Power % looks like this - https://puu.sh/rzVs9/b472299e4e.png
 
Guess it's just a waiting game at this point or I just don't play it. There's no reason that I see as to why this issue should keep happening. Higher grade hardware than my old build but programs remain the same.
 
Old build:
 
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Mobo: Gigabyte 990fxa-ud3 rev 4.0
Cooler: Asetek 570LX
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PSU: EVGA 1000PS
Monitor: Asus PG279Q (same as now)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW (same as now)
harddrives: installed on the same one it's on now
Peripherals: same
post edited by SethH - Saturday, October 08, 2016 5:12 AM

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:34 AM (permalink)
There are good chance that something with PSU is wrong because in same software with same PSU I have completely different reading.
It would be nice to connect voltmeter on molex black/red and black/yellow wire and check 12V and 5V rails under load or with PSU tester.
 
https://www.amazon.com/Optimal-Shop-Computer-Supply-Connectors/dp/B00Q8SUYHW/ref=pd_sim_147_5/152-2634872-3768021?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=376ZZ85CC178C4JYRTK3
 
Your PSU is maybe for RMA.
I never hear that AIDA64 make such big mistakes with new PSU models, same is with HWInfo.
I was expect to see same with AIDA64.
 

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 7:22 AM (permalink)
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There are good chance that something with PSU is wrong because in same software with same PSU I have completely different reading.
It would be nice to connect voltmeter on molex black/red and black/yellow wire and check 12V and 5V rails under load or with PSU tester.
 
https://www.amazon.com/Optimal-Shop-Computer-Supply-Connectors/dp/B00Q8SUYHW/ref=pd_sim_147_5/152-2634872-3768021?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=376ZZ85CC178C4JYRTK3
 
Your PSU is maybe for RMA.
I never hear that AIDA64 make such big mistakes with new PSU models, same is with HWInfo.
I was expect to see same with AIDA64.
 




I checked the voltage on a Molex connector using a DMM and the lowest it showed even during the choppy gameplay was 12.15V...the highest was 12.17V

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 2:25 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SethH Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:31 PM
SethH
Already tried 1 & 2 with no luck. Vsync & Gsync on or off result in the same problem, regardless of refresh rate.
 
I think removing Geforce Experience was a placebo because the issue came back.
 
https://puu.sh/rzVvT/edd68e9f3f.png - This is my GPU Usage chart. At 99% it's great and I have smooth gameplay...then it does the funky stuff on the right.
At the same time, GPU Power % looks like this - https://puu.sh/rzVs9/b472299e4e.png
 
Guess it's just a waiting game at this point or I just don't play it. There's no reason that I see as to why this issue should keep happening. Higher grade hardware than my old build but programs remain the same.




With such wonderful hardware, not playing BF4 due to performance issues is unacceptable.
 
 
I was asked to look at your thread by a friend on the EVGA forums who is aware of my extensive Battlefield experience and massive troubleshooting background with problems like yours... 
 
There are so many different issues that could be involved, that posting each troubleshooting step and result would take quite a bit of time. And past experience has shown that the root causes of such issues are often overlooked when simply posting back and forth.
Direct conversations often result in huge time and effort savings -and- much better results
 
Please check your PM's and lets see if we can get you fixed up and running BF4 properly 
 




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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 4:44 PM (permalink)
Maniacvvv is probably the most knowledgeable person on the forums with BF4. Hopefully he can help you resolve this.

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:07 PM (permalink)
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Maniacvvv is probably the most knowledgeable person on the forums with BF4. Hopefully he can help you resolve this.


I hope so. It's like having a Lambo but you can only do half the speed limit.

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:16 PM (permalink)
I bet you have some in-game settings setup incorrectly that is causing the stutter.
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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Sunday, October 09, 2016 9:04 AM (permalink)
Is it possible to run Battlefield 4 benchmark.
His hardware is perfect. 

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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Sunday, October 09, 2016 5:12 PM (permalink)
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Maniacvvv is probably the most knowledgeable person on the forums with BF4. Hopefully he can help you resolve this.


I hope so. It's like having a Lambo but you can only do half the speed limit.



Yeah, I've been reading up on your hardware specs and the testing data in prep for our troubleshooting session today...
We certainly have a lot to cover, I'm looking forward to it




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Re: Possible faulty 1200P2? Sunday, October 09, 2016 10:19 PM (permalink)

September 2016 Build Specs:
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