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Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E

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gridironcpj iCX Member Total Posts : 387 Reward points : 0 Joined: 1/13/2013 Location: CA Status: offline Ribbons : 1 Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:53 AM (permalink) The reviews for Broadwell-E are in and they're not very impressive: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587.html http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-10-core-Broadwell-E-Review http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-processor-review,1.html http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7725/intel-broadwell-core-i7-6950x-10-extreme-edition-cpu-review/index.html I was personally interested in the 6900K, but it appears overclocking on Broadwell-E is much worse than Haswell-E, as the 14nm process makes for denser CPUs, thus harder to cool. "But if you're an overclocker, the Core i7-5930K is a better alternative to the -6850K, and Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K. At the same clock rates, Intel's Haswell-E generation is easier to cool." -Tomshardware It seems like nobody has been able to push the 6900k or 6950k beyond 4.5GHz (most are barely above 4.0). Even the 6850k is doing pretty poorly. My 3930k is looking mighty fine in 2016 at 4.6GHz with 1.336V... GPU: RTX 3090 KINGPIN \| CPU: R9 5950X 4.7GHz @ 1.21V \| Memory: 32GB (2x16GB) 3733MT/s 14-14-14-28 1T \| Mobo: Crosshair VIII Dark Hero \| Storage: WD SN850 2TB & Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB\| Primary Display: ROG PG27UQ 4K 144Hz HDR 1000 \| Chassis: Phanteks Enthoo Elite \| PSU: EVGA 1600 T2 #1 13 Replies Related Threads
Vlada011 Omnipotent Enthusiast Total Posts : 10126 Reward points : 0 Joined: 3/25/2012 Location: Belgrade-Serbia Status: offline Ribbons : 11 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:17 AM (permalink) Prices are insane. I hope they will improve overclocking with Skylake-EX again. Haswell-EX is solid overclocker and I hope at least same with Skylake-EX. i7-5820K 4.5GHz/RVE10-EK Monoblock/Dominator Platinum 2666/ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon/SBZxR /Samsung 970 EVO PLus 1TB/850 EVO 1TB /EVGA 1200P2/Lian Li PC-O11WXC/EK XRES D5 Revo 100 Glass/Coolstream PE360-Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM x3 http://www.evga.com http://www.intel.com http://www.nvidia.com https://watercool.de http://www.lian-li.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMun5xiRe0 https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/ #2
gridironcpj iCX Member Total Posts : 387 Reward points : 0 Joined: 1/13/2013 Location: CA Status: offline Ribbons : 1 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:22 AM (permalink) Vlada011 Prices are insane. I hope they will improve overclocking with Skylake-EX again. Haswell-EX is solid overclocker and I hope at least same with Skylake-EX. I wonder how long of a wait it'll be until Skylake-E. If Broadwell-E overclocked better than Haswell-E, this would have been an easy buy for me. If I could match my 3930k overclock on an 8-core without too high of a voltage increase, then I'd be satisfied. GPU: RTX 3090 KINGPIN \| CPU: R9 5950X 4.7GHz @ 1.21V \| Memory: 32GB (2x16GB) 3733MT/s 14-14-14-28 1T \| Mobo: Crosshair VIII Dark Hero \| Storage: WD SN850 2TB & Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB\| Primary Display: ROG PG27UQ 4K 144Hz HDR 1000 \| Chassis: Phanteks Enthoo Elite \| PSU: EVGA 1600 T2 #3
hallowen CLASSIFIED Member Total Posts : 2587 Reward points : 0 Joined: 6/18/2008 Location: In a Galaxy Far, Far Away... Status: offline Ribbons : 14 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:21 PM (permalink) So...........Intel wants me to spend $1723 for a 6960X that won't reach the 5GHz Overclock of my "Old" 5960X? ASUS: Rampage VI Extreme \| i9-7940X \| 2X RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin SLI \| 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory - SAGER: NP9870-G \| i7-6700K \| GTX 980M 8GB \| 64GB DDR4 \| 950 PRO M.2 512GB \| 17.3 QHD 120Hz Matte G-Sync \| Prema bios - EVOC Premamod: P870TM1 \| i9-9900K-LM \| RTX 2080N 8GB \| Modded Vapor Chamber \| 32GB 3000MHz Ripjaws \| 960 EVO M.2 1TB \| 17.3 3K QHD 120Hz Matte G-Sync \| Intel 8265 - #4
Bobmitch CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member Total Posts : 7822 Reward points : 0 Joined: 5/7/2007 Status: offline Ribbons : 49 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:24 PM (permalink) Looks like the 6850 is a better selection than the 6800. Overall...nothing mindblowing about Broadwell-E MSI MAG X670-E Tomahawk; Ryzen 7 7800X3D; Asus TUF RTX 4070 TI OC; Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 PSU; 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 CL30 RGB; Corsair iCue Link H150i LCD 360MM AIO; 2-Western Digital Black 4 TB SN850X NVMe; Creative SoundBlaster Z; Lian Li Lancool III; Corsair K70 RGB Pro MX Speed Silver Keyboard; Razer Viper 8K Mouse Heatware: https://www.heatware.com/u/72402 Affiliate code: 1L2RV0BNQ6 Associate Code: UD82LJP3Y1FIQPR #5
zophar CLASSIFIED Member Total Posts : 4749 Reward points : 0 Joined: 8/26/2008 Location: KC,MO Status: offline Ribbons : 26 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:24 PM (permalink) hallowen So...........Intel wants me to spend $1723 for a 6960X that won't reach the 5GHz Overclock of my "Old" 5960X? Big shocker right???? I mean we paid $130 per core on the 5960X, why not $170 per core for a 6960X? It's just a small difference in price #6
Xavier Zepherious CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member Total Posts : 6746 Reward points : 0 Joined: 7/4/2010 Location: Medicine Hat ,Alberta, Canada Status: offline Ribbons : 16 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:00 PM (permalink) Intel Core i7-6950X Overclocked To A Whopping 5.7GHz – See All The Details Here Read more: http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i76950x-overclocked-whopping-57ghz-details/#ixzz4AFloY7C1 Primes found Affiliate Code:YN2AHK39LH #7
RandyRick iCX Member Total Posts : 446 Reward points : 0 Joined: 5/11/2016 Status: offline Ribbons : 0 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:29 PM (permalink) Xavier Zepherious Intel Core i7-6950X Overclocked To A Whopping 5.7GHz – See All The Details Here Read more: http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i76950x-overclocked-whopping-57ghz-details/#ixzz4AFloY7C1 in a carefully controlled experiment in liquid nitrogen. #8
EZcameron76 New Member Total Posts : 3 Reward points : 0 Joined: 5/15/2012 Status: offline Ribbons : 0 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:42 PM (permalink) I just purchased the i7 6800k and I am not wondering if when I get it on Thursday will I need to return it and get a 5820k. I am upgrading my 7 year old pc. I have the asus x99-II mobo and thought this new cpu would be the best to start. I do a lot of gaming mainly but also stream and do video editing. What would be the best thing to do I dont want to mess up and I know getting a higher clock will be good. I will have a AIO Corsair H100i v2 cooler for it regardless of chip. What do you think would be best to do as I dont want to upgrade anything for like 7 years or so ????????????? #9
donta1979 Primarch Total Posts : 9050 Reward points : 0 Joined: 2/12/2007 Location: In the land of Florida Man! Status: offline Ribbons : 73 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:31 PM (permalink) You have to keep in mind, as they make the chip process smaller the components get more delicate and intricate. Meaning overclocks will not be as grand. Imagine trying to overclock a cell phone? Trying to get the gains we are accustomed to the thing would fry/burn up. Heatware Retired from AAA Game Industry Jeep Wranglers, English Bulldog Rescue USAF, USANG, US ARMY Combat Veteran My Build 14900k, z790 Apex Encore, EK Nucleus Direct Die, T-Force EXTREEM 8000mhz cl38 2x24 Stable"24hr Karhu" XMP, Rog Strix OC RTX 4090, Rog Hyperion GR701 Case, Rog Thor II 1200w, Rog Centra True Wireless Speednova, 35" Rog Swift PG35VQ + Acer EI342CKR Pbmiippx 34", EK Link FPT 140mm D-RGB Fans. Rog Claymore II, Rog Harpe Ace Aimlabs Edition, Cyberpunk 2077 Xbox One Controller, WD Black SN850x/Samsung 980+990 PRO/Samsung 980. Honeywell PTM7950 pad on CPU+GPU #10
EZcameron76 New Member Total Posts : 3 Reward points : 0 Joined: 5/15/2012 Status: offline Ribbons : 0 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:49 PM (permalink) So would you think it would be better to get the 5820k? #11
Evga570 iCX Member Total Posts : 482 Reward points : 0 Joined: 12/13/2010 Status: offline Ribbons : 1 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:25 PM (permalink) EZcameron76 So would you think it would be better to get the 5820k? Yes and it's cheaper too. #12
EZcameron76 New Member Total Posts : 3 Reward points : 0 Joined: 5/15/2012 Status: offline Ribbons : 0 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:52 PM (permalink) Well I guess now I have to wait till thursday to get the 6800k and then return and buy that one. #13
stalinx20 CLASSIFIED Member Total Posts : 4857 Reward points : 0 Joined: 1/3/2009 Location: U.S., Michigan Status: offline Ribbons : 0 Re: Broadwell-E Reviewed: Worse at overclocking than Haswell-E Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:31 AM (permalink) Nope. Going to hold onto my 4820 for a little longer. EVGA X79 Dark 2080 Black edition 980 EVGA 1000 gold PSU (Gold) 4820K CPU 16x G-skill #14

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