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Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:40 PM (permalink)
Hey. I'm Remilia.
I'm having issues with my cpu temps. I'm getting lower 80s Celsius on my i7 920 cpu. I'm not gaming on it when those temps are detected. it usually runs hotter when playing destiny 2 obviously. But lower 80s on low to idle use is NOT GOOD!! my vreg is usually lower 50s and system temps usually in the lower 30s all under idle. my board and cpu are on a single  custom loop and i reapplied thermal paste on my cpu and it helped a little but not enough to be below the 80s. my pump according to the seller of the cooling kit is a .15 psi. I know it's puny but would a new pump be the complete fix to my problem???? 
 
is this a good solution??
Phobya DC12-260 12V Water Cooling Pump

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coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:28 PM (permalink)
Hello Remilia,
 
 
What type of waterblock do you have on your CPU? It could be a number of things. Clogged waterblock and or radiator, inadequate thermal contact between the cooling plate, failing pump or something as simple as a need for replacing thermal compound (hardly needed after first proper application). I would also check why the entire CPU package is drawing max wattage if you're at idle. Check your processes/task manager to see if anything is utilizing the CPU. You can also try clearing your CMOS in case you may have any unstable overclock applied. Buying a new pump is a gamble (though the pump you have may be weak and a stronger pump would assist in water flow), you would need to figure what the underlying issue is first. 
 
 
Regards,
Thomas N. 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:41 PM (permalink)
My package is 130 Watts i applied fresh thermal paste the block is on as tight as is safely possible without over tightening and and the entire cooling system is brand new no clogging or anything. It is generic branded though. One Evga rep blamed my cpu saying it’s “going bad or is already bad. Call Intel for assistance” I even bought wider tubes cause the ones it came with are smaller. I now have 3/8 Id by 1/2 od primochill tubing. I’m sure I did everything right as far as hardware and setup. Any thoughts???

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:01 PM (permalink)
My CPU usage is no more than lower 40s when on the web running hardware monitor WinRAR  the blizzard client on idle (no games running) and a few background tasks if that helps.
 
any thoughts??

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My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:03 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby EVGATech_ThomasN Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:06 PM
Welcome to the EVGA Forums 

Sounds like your lines are connected backwards to the CPU block.
 
Confirm:
 
1) Pressure from pump is connected to inlet of CPU block
 
2) Pump is not cavitating
 
3) Air has been bled throughout the loop.  (Usually by tipping while the pump is running)
 
4) CPU block is not clogged
 
5) Unlikely as it sounds, protective cover removed from CPU block before mounting --> (It has happened before)
 
 

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:05 PM (permalink)
Hello Remilia, 
 
 
I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that. I do apologize about the inconveniences, but I'm here to further help you. Although this troubleshooting method may not be the best or preferred, try an air cooler to see if this gets the temps to subside. Yes, your package current value was at 130 watts, that is the max power draw for the intel 920 chip. You've mentioned you were at idle, it should not be drawing max at idle. Check your background processes by clicking on the CPU value on the task manager page, you should be able to see the processes from most usage to idle. 
 
 
 
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Thomas N,
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:07 PM (permalink)
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Welcome to the EVGA Forums 

Sounds like your lines are connected backwards to the CPU block.
 
Confirm:
 
1) Pressure from pump is connected to inlet of CPU block
 
2) Pump is not cavitating
 
3) Air has been bled throughout the loop.  (Usually by tipping while the pump is running)
 
4) CPU block is not clogged
 
5) Unlikely as it sounds, protective cover removed from CPU block before mounting --> (It has happened before)
 
 




 
Trust me, my first custom loop.... Horrendous amount of hours spent troubleshooting and testing was definitely a concern for unhealthy obsession. All for a clear plastic sticker on the cooling plate  So yes, that has happened before :P
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:09 PM (permalink)
I fully agree with EVGATech_ThomasN
 
Set MB - BIOS to stock setting & tell us more about you loop
 
To help use understand where your at, what is your PC & custom loop experience level ?
 
Is this a new issue on a formerly stable system ?
 
Is this a build that was changed recently or a new build ?  -- tell us more
 
Changed any parts or BIOS setting before this issue started ?
 

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:22 PM (permalink)
I just checked my loop and noticed something hilarious. Not. My loop is getting next to 0 flow from the pump to motherboard waterblock section absolutely zippo nada big goose egg flow on the motherboard block to cpu block cpu block to radiator radiator to pump is next to zero. flow does go on the bottom halves of the tubes on radiator to pump and the pump to mobo waterblock sections. but it looks like on those sections it struggles to push it all the way through the rest of the loop like its a bicyclist trying to bike up a 85% grade hill but ending up falling back down to the bottom of the hill. everything looks unclogged and whatnot. again EVERY part of the cooling system is NEW. I'm thinking a new stronger pump might be what wil fix this.
 
any thoughts?????

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:30 PM (permalink)
Please list your Loop parts & part numbers
 
Pictures ?
 
Fans number size RPM
 
Did you flush your parts before assembly ?
 
Did you test flow through each part, before assembly ?
 
Nothing is guaranteed - Even with New Parts
 
Passages in the Blocks are very Small & many parts allow Only 1 direction of flow

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:32 PM (permalink)
Hello Remilia, 
 
 
Could definitely be that, but when it comes to water cooling (in my experience), CPU water blocks and GPU water blocks I typically buy high end. It could be a pump issue given the smaller pump that you have, but it could also be a bottleneck due to manufacturing (or designing) of the waterblock. Would recommend taking apart the loop and doing an initial flush and thorough cleaning. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:38 PM (permalink)
everything is on one continuous loop. but it appears that the fluid is not flowing through the whole thing jus the bottom near the pump. the first inch or two on the two ends in and out of the pump.
i'm pretty sure its a flow and pressure (or lack there of) issue. as the fluid only goes a few inches away from the pump

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:39 PM (permalink)
Look at my Build in my Signature  Nibbler & my Mods Rigs page
 
I use (1) D5 pump for 3 GPU, CPU, 1-360 radiator & 1-420 radiator
 
These loops do Not run at a very high pressure, most blocks will leak under more than a few pounds of pressure
 
Air "in the pump" will cause cavitation and a low flow with no pressure.

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:49 PM (permalink)
what pump d5? what model and make? do i NEED two radiators for my rig?? mine is no where as complicated it simply pump to mobo mobo to cpu cpu to radiator radiator back to pump. a straightforward loop. EXCEPT the fluid isn't going through the entire loop just about an inch or two out either connection from the pump. i think i have too little pressure. translation i have zippo doughnut nada fluid passing through the mobo and cpu waterblock. it did go throught the loop every time i initially install the cooling system ( which i did three times in the last 36hrs) and stops the good flow about a minute after initial installation each time. idk what is going on. i seriously think my .15m pump is the issue.

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:11 PM (permalink)
the pump i have now is generic so i'm dubious of its quality/performance. also its a .15m and the phobya one i showed is 2.5m. is this the issue?? every other idea i tested and tried i think. unless i'm missing something but i'm positive i tried what all ideas you suggest that are relevant to my particular setup.

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My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:12 PM (permalink)
the ebay .15 is the pump i have now fyi

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:23 PM (permalink)
i don't have part numbers for the pump reservoir barbs etc. as their all third party generic crap. but the tubing is primochill 3/8 id 1/2 od and the mans are 120mm . two of them on a generic dual bay radiator. i can't afford high end as i'm a freaking cashier at (removed) mcdonalds. so this build already cost months and months of paychecks to get what i have now. so better gpus than 590s is out and gtx 10 is a pipedream. and 20 series?!? forget that!! the managers at mcdonalds can't afford those. trust me i know. we talk. however a new pump i can afford. 
 
do you think i should go ahead and get one?
will that fix anything?
 
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post edited by Cool GTX - Wednesday, September 26, 2018 7:53 PM

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Wednesday, September 26, 2018 8:09 PM (permalink)
I can't see or test your system; that is why I'm asking many questions. 
 
Which specific EVGA X58 MB  Part# ?

The details of parts I used are in those links above.
 
You may want to look this thread over:  https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2534039
 
Great EK tool - Custom loop configurator to ease your choice
 
 
You should carefully test - in stages - to determine what the issue is - changing parts can be expensive & not very productive
 
Did you confirm all inlets were on the pressure side of the loop Flow ?
 
Your Build - custom loop: (pictures are not very clear & kind of small)
 
3/8 inch ID tubes - is OK
 
Pump - make & model ?
 
Radiator(s) - make & model ?
 
CPU water block = an EK what ?  -----> (there is a direction of flow on these for sure)
 
MB chipset Block - make & model ?
 
GPU blocks ?
 
Rule of thumb for radiator size:
A minimum of one 120mm radiator size - per part cooled + at least one additional.  This is usually based on a 45mm thick radiator.
 
So, if you are cooling the MB chipset & the cpu a 360 radiator would be the size to look at
 

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Wednesday, September 26, 2018 8:16 PM (permalink)
I just checked to see if the protective cover was on the cpu waterblock still and would you believe it?!? It was! I removed it and 40 degrees drop difference. Like night and day. Crisis averted....so far at least
Keeping an eye on it for now just to be sure. Note I’m playing destiny 2 on it now and I’m running low 40s Celsius about 42 ish

My Main Rig:
evga x58 classified sli mobo with ek waterblock
i7 920 cpu with waterblock
coolermaster silent pro gold 1200 watt psu
2x nvidia gtx 590s on quad sli both fan cooled
t-virus style resevoir
generic water pump
nzxt phantom 530 full tower chassis
dual 120mm fan radiator 
internet connection via on board LAN
24" viewsonic monitor with builtin speakers and hdmi to mini displayport connection 
generic wired mouse and ps/2 dell keyboard
2 120mm led green top mounted case fans
1 rear mounted led 120m case fan
1 120mm case fan in between behind the gpus and the hard drive bays 
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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Wednesday, September 26, 2018 8:22 PM (permalink)

 
What about the coolant flow ?

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Re: CPU temps concerningly high on my x58 classified SLI motherboard Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:39 AM (permalink)
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I just checked to see if the protective cover was on the cpu waterblock still and would you believe it?!? It was! I removed it and 40 degrees drop difference.




I always hated it since they started putting that protective film stuff on cold plates since about a thousand years ago, and especially when then they tell you (or should) in the installation instructions to be sure to remove it.

We live and we learn..The film definitely can be hard to see..Glad you got it figured out.

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