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Saturday, March 21, 2015 11:43 PM
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Hello
Had my 780 for a while now and have recently in the past few weeks been getting a black screen after less than an hour of intensive gaming, the sound carries on in the background but I have to kill the games through task manager. It started on the day V1.1 of Assetto Corsa got released and I thought it was the games fault, now I'm getting it in other games like FC3:Blood Dragon and Max Payne 3.
My card is the 780 SC ACX which tends to run at about 1070MHz if I set the power target to 106%, the temps never go above 70-75c and both fans are spinning fine. I get these crashes regardless of what operating system and drivers are installed and my Win 8.1 Pro install is about a week old - I also get the crashes with or without PrecisionX or the OSD running.
Could it be a failing gpu?
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM
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Sounds like your card is unstable. Downclock the card to see if it helps get rid of the black screen/nvlddmkm crash and recovery error. You can use msi afterburner to downclock the card, set the core & memory to -105 then go test your games. Leave afterburner open while testing.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:18 PM
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That's my plan for today, I can use PrecisionX for that can't I? Just add a negative value to the core and memory?
I'm back on PrecisionX 4.2.1 or whatever it is as 16 is a crashfest on any video player I have installed.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:26 PM
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Try first only GPU Core Clock than and Memory Clock and test 24-48h if problem stop
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:37 PM
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Ok thank you both, I'm at -105 on the core and will see what happens.
Setting the power target from 106% to 100% last night definitely gave me much longer in between crashes on Max Payne 3. If the card does turn out to be unstable what would be my next step? This is the first PC I've built in a long time, luckily not added this GPU into my loop yet.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:31 PM
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Alec01 Ok thank you both, I'm at -105 on the core and will see what happens.
Setting the power target from 106% to 100% last night definitely gave me much longer in between crashes on Max Payne 3. If the card does turn out to be unstable what would be my next step? This is the first PC I've built in a long time, luckily not added this GPU into my loop yet.
If your card turns out to be unstable the next step would be to start the RMA process with EVGA.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 5:05 PM
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-105MHz core still gives me an Assetto Corsa crash which reads as a graphics driver crash in the logs, I get no notification via windows that the display driver has stopped working though. The developers have read my last few logs and are insisting it is a GPU problem.
I'll try -105 on memory too and fire up Max Payne 3
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:49 PM
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Ok it lasted an hour on Max Payne 3, I paused it for about 2 minutes and my machine restarted. No graphic driver errors this time just a whole bunch of critical errors from wudfrd, wpdbusenum amd tunmirror in the event viewer thingy.
I'm starting to think this could be the beginning of something terminal, wouldn't my machine only reboot during an intensive game if the power supply was overstressed? The PSU is only a few months old and is way overkill for my current setup.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:45 PM
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Alec01 wouldn't my machine only reboot during an intensive game if the power supply was overstressed? The PSU is only a few months old and is way overkill for my current setup.
Yes, unless that one certain game is causing the issue. Try running Prime95 & Unigine Heaven 4.0 at the same time to see if it causes your system to reboot. Start Small FFT test inside Prime95 first then startup Heaven 4.0. You will notice lag but it's completely normal since you will be putting your entire system under a full load. If your system reboots your PSU has a problem.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:27 PM
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It isn't likely to go bang if I do that is it? lol I'm a bit nervous at the best of times with anxiety.
Getting 12.197v on the +12 rail at idle according to my mobo but that doesn't really mean anything does it.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:33 PM
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Alec01 It isn't likely to go bang if I do that is it? lol I'm a bit nervous at the best of times with anxiety.
Getting 12.197v on the +12 rail at idle according to my mobo but that doesn't really mean anything does it.
No it won't go bang putting the system under full load.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:00 PM
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Sajin
Alec01 It isn't likely to go bang if I do that is it? lol I'm a bit nervous at the best of times with anxiety.
Getting 12.197v on the +12 rail at idle according to my mobo but that doesn't really mean anything does it.
No it won't go bang putting the system under full load.
I just wasn't expecting it to restart like it did after all these crashes lately, usually a rock solid system - made me a bit nervous. I'll grab a couple of beers and get it running 100%, I did realize I have not heard the PSU fan for a while. Can't see if it's spinning or not as it is fan side down.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:02 PM
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Report back with your results when you can.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:09 PM
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Sajin Report back with your results when you can. 
Cheers for being patient with me lol I ran both of them at the same time for about ten minutes with no crashes or shutdowns, prime is still running small FFT on all 4 cores at 4.4GHz 1.25-1.26v max temp of around 76c in one core. GPU ran at least 4 goes of Heaven with and without prime running at max settings with no crash, this is at -105MHz core and memory. I ran mdsched.exe too with no errors
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:30 PM
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I just tried again for about 20 minutes with them both running and the PSU fan didn't come on once, could that be my issue here?
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:40 PM
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If the PSU didn't get hot enough the fan may not have kicked on.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:48 PM
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I turned it on anyway, will be summer here soon - the blades are spinning.
Any more ideas? Heaven hasn't crashed the display driver once tonight so far, should I leave them running? Usually if I don't supply enough voltage with even say +50MHz it'll crash on the first pass.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:59 PM
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Try running your CPU & RAM at default clocks.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Sunday, March 22, 2015 11:35 PM
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Probably the first thing I should have thought of if we're honest.
I hit the UEFI Default button, will probably try some games out tomorrow as I'm sick of it for today.
Thanks for the help so far Sajin.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 0:19 PM
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Just tried a lap on Assetto Corsa and it seems the problem is loads worse now, I can't figure it out.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 1:47 AM
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No problem. Which graphics driver are you currently running? Have you tried the previous 3 graphics drivers to see if they all produce the same issue you're having?
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 2:01 AM
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347.88 is the current driver, I just grabbed it from the website again and checked the clean install option but I really need some sleep, I'll play the pants off it tomorrow and post my results. EDIT - Yeah I have tried a few different drivers now and all with the same result, can't seem to get rid of it. The only reason I'm on 8.1 now is because I kept getting crashes from media players on Win7 recently, especially when using my TV tuner or switching between fullscreen and windowed. I must have a hardware fault somewhere but I can't find it!
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 2:02 AM
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Alec01 347.88 is the current driver, I just grabbed it from the website again and checked the clean install option but I really need some sleep, I'll play the pants off it tomorrow and post my results.
No problem. Report back when you can.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 2:19 AM
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One of the things I discovered abut BF4 and my GTX 780 ACX SC was that I simply can not overclock any part of my system (CPU, memory, GPU) without BF4 crashing. The error message was the same. The villain was nvlddmkm every time. It's not a driver issue. Solution? No overclocks. I even had the dial the memory back to 1333 Mhz from 2166 and drop the memory voltage to 1.5v. Some games just don't like overclocking and that error is the best symptom of the problem.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 1:49 PM
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DKSang One of the things I discovered abut BF4 and my GTX 780 ACX SC was that I simply can not overclock any part of my system (CPU, memory, GPU) without BF4 crashing. The error message was the same. The villain was nvlddmkm every time. It's not a driver issue. Solution? No overclocks. I even had the dial the memory back to 1333 Mhz from 2166 and drop the memory voltage to 1.5v. Some games just don't like overclocking and that error is the best symptom of the problem.
I used to be able to overclock the card fine up to about 1170MHz core and it'd be stable in all games, but the results are not really that great considering how much extra stress you're putting on the card so I've left it on the boost clocks for the last few months. This issue started a few weeks ago where the black screen occurs but the game is still playing in the background, every time this happens I have to restart the PC in order to play again or I get errors before the games start back up. I'm a bit confused, I've put my clocks back to standard instead of -105MHz and installed clean drivers so all I can do now is test, CPU and RAM are also at their default values although I'm pretty sure my overclock was totally stable.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 3:11 PM
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So how is it going with everything running at stock?
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 3:23 PM
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I'll find out soon, I rang the retailer who sold me the GPU (scan.co.uk) and they told me to download 3Dmark11 and BF4, if they crash with the same trouble at stock clocks they'll arrange an RMA for me, although it's probably faster if I go direct to EVGA they don't even have a phone number for me to call and don't I have to send the card to California?
Edit, or are you thinking it could be a CPU/mobo issue if it crashes on overclocked CPU?
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 3:33 PM
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Most likely an unstable overclock if it crashes on a overclocked CPU.
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 3:41 PM
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It only started suddenly one afternoon the other week though, I've had that same 4.4GHz overclock for about 6 months, I'm totally confused lol something is wrong somewhere but I can't figure it out.
I noticed last night that Assetto Corsa crashed the second I plugged my PS3 controller in, but it read in the logs that it is a DX error
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Re: Constant nvlddmkm crash and recovery GTX780 SC
Monday, March 23, 2015 4:08 PM
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So is your system still crashing while running the gpu, cpu & ram at stock?
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