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Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:29 AM (permalink)
Hi guys,
I just ordered my NEX1500 PSU. I understand EVGA is offering both single and multi rail configurations, with the multi-rail set as default.
 
What configuration do you suggest I go with if CPU = i7 3770K and GPU could be:
 
1. Single GTX 690
2. 2x GTX 690
3. 2x GTX 680 Classified
 
Thanks in advance for your help!
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:36 AM (permalink)
    Doesn't matter, some will say multi so if one sags it doesn't drop all your components and others will single. Personally I'm a fan of single rail. 
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:38 AM (permalink)
    Thanks, I just read the manual and it says that it shouldn't effect performance. I probably will leave it at Multi as its the default.
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:24 AM (permalink)
    Single rail is recommend it below 1500watts, multi-rail is to fully use the 1500w and more, for that you need the 230v installed in your house/apartment.

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:21 AM (permalink)
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     What configuration do you suggest I go with if CPU = i7 3770K and GPU could be:

    1. Single GTX 690
    2. 2x GTX 690
    3. 2x GTX 680 Classified

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    To be quite honest, you didn't need that PSU for any of those configurations, with any overclock.  You could have gotten a 1000W unit and saved some major cash, but there is a lot of future-proofing using the EVGA PSU, so I respect that decision provided you knew about it.
     
    First see this link, understand what it says, as I've estimated PSU requirements for others before.  For your three intended configurations, the total current draw at stock ends up as 32A, 57A and 40A, respectively from 12v alone and without drives and fans.
     
    Overclocking tends to influence power draw exponentially, where 40% higher frequency leads to doubling the power.  But only the CPU is expected to get that high, graphics cards' tend to average 15-20% higher than stock.  Either way, for all three configurations the current draw from 12v ends up 43A73A and 52A, respectively from 12v alone and again without drives and fans.
     
    You bought 1500W with a maximum possible current load in single-rail of 131A; the way I see it, you could take advantage of the ten-year warranty as this PSU could easily be salvaged for the next several builds.   EVGA's NEX PSU is more meant for really pushing hardware like their SR-X board with a pair of 8-cores Xeons and 4-way SLI GTX680's, which can soar above 110A.

    For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:34 AM (permalink)
    atfrico

    Single rail is recommend it below 1500watts, multi-rail is to fully use the 1500w and more, for that you need the 230v installed in your house/apartment.

     
    From the pamphlet that comes with the NEX 1500W:
     
    "Single Rail mode is recommended for SLI or multi GPU sytems. (Software OC mode and software Single/Multi Rail switching will be disabled in this mode)"
     
    I'm running my quadfire rig with this unit in Single Rail mode.





     
     
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:37 AM (permalink)
    Thank you all for your comments. The way I see it Single Rail is the way to go I guess. I live in US and the volts I guess are 120V. 
     
    So why is EVGA setting the multi-rail by default? The manual says that there is no performance difference between single rail and multi-rail.
     
    So from what everyone is saying I should enable single rail in the PSU. 
    Is that achieved by moving the jumpers of 3 and 5 to ON?
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:32 AM (permalink)
    I leave Default Multirail configuration.
    With more graphic card they recommend Single Rail. 
     

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:05 PM (permalink)
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    Thank you all for your comments. The way I see it Single Rail is the way to go I guess. I live in US and the volts I guess are 120V. 

    So why is EVGA setting the multi-rail by default? The manual says that there is no performance difference between single rail and multi-rail.

    So from what everyone is saying I should enable single rail in the PSU. 
    Is that achieved by moving the jumpers of 3 and 5 to ON?

    Yes, you need to set it up at single rail. Don't be afraid to call EVGA Tech Support for any questions. I haven't used mine yet...lol, but i will soon when i got time off. I'd been busy lately.
    If you have seen the video, i believe Jacob stated all NEX's PSU are set up multirail by default, so be sure to set it on single rail to those that are not planning to use the full 1500w.

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:49 AM (permalink)
    Finally I find requirements for some usually used graphic cards where people can find how much Ampers need for configuration.
    http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards
     
    Maybe I'm wrong but for HD5870 and 40A It's better for me to connect two VGA cables again. One for 8pin and second for 6pin???
     
     

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:29 AM (permalink)
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    Thank you all for your comments. The way I see it Single Rail is the way to go I guess. I live in US and the volts I guess are 120V. 

    So why is EVGA setting the multi-rail by default? The manual says that there is no performance difference between single rail and multi-rail.

    So from what everyone is saying I should enable single rail in the PSU. 
    Is that achieved by moving the jumpers of 3 and 5 to ON?


    Here's a link to the manual. It will answer many of your questions.

    http://www.evga.com/suppo.../files/120-PG-1500.pdf

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:59 AM (permalink)
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    What configuration do you suggest I go with if CPU = i7 3770K and GPU could be:

    1. Single GTX 690
    2. 2x GTX 690
    3. 2x GTX 680 Classified

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    To be quite honest, you didn't need that PSU for any of those configurations, with any overclock.  You could have gotten a 1000W unit and saved some major cash, but there is a lot of future-proofing using the EVGA PSU, so I respect that decision provided you knew about it.

    First see this link, understand what it says, as I've estimated PSU requirements for others before.  For your three intended configurations, the total current draw at stock ends up as 32A, 57A and 40A, respectively from 12v alone and without drives and fans.

    Overclocking tends to influence power draw exponentially, where 40% higher frequency leads to doubling the power.  But only the CPU is expected to get that high, graphics cards' tend to average 15-20% higher than stock.  Either way, for all three configurations the current draw from 12v ends up 43A73A and 52A, respectively from 12v alone and again without drives and fans.

    You bought 1500W with a maximum possible current load in single-rail of 131A; the way I see it, you could take advantage of the ten-year warranty as this PSU could easily be salvaged for the next several builds.   EVGA's NEX PSU is more meant for really pushing hardware like their SR-X board with a pair of 8-cores Xeons and 4-way SLI GTX680's, which can soar above 110A.


    actually, its likely the opposite.  The power requirement for components isn't going up in the future - its going down.  but meh.

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, November 24, 2013 6:10 AM (permalink)
    If I had the choice I would always get single rail, that way you don't have to worry about overloading the psu if the wrong connections are hooked up. depending on the PSU model, review sites will show what connections are needed for good even power usage across multiple +12 rails.

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, November 24, 2013 6:39 AM (permalink)
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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:06 AM (permalink)
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    If I had the choice I would always get single rail, that way you don't have to worry about overloading the psu if the wrong connections are hooked up. depending on the PSU model, review sites will show what connections are needed for good even power usage across multiple +12 rails.
     
    And I would choose single rail rather than multi.
    If they say single rail is recommend for SLI than can't be worse option and for one graphic card.
     
     
     

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:58 AM (permalink)
    Years ago it mattered because some companies followed the EPS12V spec which was irrelevant because it was for servers, but they put all the PCIe connections on a single +12V rail.......duh.  Today, you just buy any PSU be it multi-rail or single rail, plug it in and it works.  If it is even a mildly decent power supply.....like Corsair, Enermax, Antec, Seasonic, Coolermaster, EVGA, Thermaltake, Silverstone, etc. then you just plug it in and it will work just fine.  You don't need to sit down and calculate load distribution or worry about load balancing.  Also, over 1000W I highly recommend multi-rail.....just ask [H], they were testing the AX1200 and there was a short....destroyed most of the test equipment they had connected to it.  So the only benefit either have is that multi-rail does give you the added protection of multiple OCP points.  Otherwise pick your poison and enjoy.

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    Re:Single Rail or Multi Rail Configuration Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:31 PM (permalink)
    Single rail is the way to go.
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