AfflictedNation
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Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:18 PM
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I hope this is the right place to post this. Also i might have posted this earlier but i can't find it now so I’m trying again Ok so yesterday i picked up a copy of crysis 3 installed it and played around for a little while. About an hour or so in the game randomly closes and an error message flashes across my screen stating that the system is overheating, just everything goes black. Turns out the fans on my radiator (CPU duel 580 loop) weren't blowing. I reconnected them and turned my computer back on. I was confronted with only one of my monitors responding (not the default monitor either) and it was in low res. Then windows told me it was installing new hardware and that the install of the 580 failed, and some other nvidia stuff installed fine. I say w/e to myself then turn it off cause i got to go somewhere. I come back a little later and power on the rig, only to be greeted by some error beeps and lights coming on, then the post sound but nothing else happened. I held the switch after a while of nothing. Turned it back on and now the CPU error led comes on at the same time as everything starts spinning. I've had a problem in the past with my psu so i tried a different one but the same thing happens. I have the board out right now with just one stick of ram and the CPU on it to troubleshoot. Going to test the CPU on another mobo ASAP but in the meantime does anyone have any ideas? Thanks your any and all help
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Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:53 AM
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Google the BIOS beep error codes to pinpoint the problem further. It is best to know what BIOS like AWARD or whatnot is yours to determine the beep sequence.
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Re:P67 Sabertooth Down (won't post)
Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:32 AM
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It's hard to cook a CPU enough to damage it, and it shuts down anyway beyond a certain temp. I'd be worried about your GPU instead as those run hotter than the processor, don't have the same failsafes, and the power circuitry on the card is easily damaged when it gets too hot. Since you were gaming for an hour... well, that's not good at all. Especially since Windows was attempting to install software for it, that's a red flag. I'd suggest you swap your GPU and see if the system works.
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Re:P67 Sabertooth Down (won't post)
Friday, February 22, 2013 2:45 PM
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You need to clear the cmos, and when you boot what motherboard lights are on, you can check these out in the manual of look here: http://ie.asus.com/Mother...BERTOOTH_P67/#download i have had this a couple of times and each time a cmos reset has sorted it out - reset to defaults and try again, mine were not related to heat, but overclocking beyond it abilities but it's most likely resulted in the same issues If you can get it to boot to windows then I recommend flashing the bios twice as some of the bios versions need 2 attempts (the Asus site advises this its not my strange ways lol)
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Re:P67 Sabertooth Down (won't post)
Monday, March 04, 2013 2:42 PM
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Well here's the damage. The CPU did die, won't post in any board I’ve found, and one of the 580s the top one (if that makes a diff) fried as well. rept the CPU with a 3rd gen and I can get by with just the single 580 so not a total loss and only suffered a 2 day down period. And btw the 2600k always ran hotter than the cards did. With the full blocks the cards never hit more than 70 while the CPU still ran close to 90-95 when folding and was at least as hot as the cards in game. I’m going to see if there is anything left I can do to get them back running but at least I’m running. Also would anyone recommend or discourage a re-flow of the 580? If yes then any preferred method? Also my new 3rd gen hits temps upwards of 100C in games with the default heat sink. I know the Intel sink is super cheap and small but is this normal or do you think there might be something wrong with the board causing this issue. Idles around 50-60 with no OC this just doesn't sit right with me. Thanks for all the help so far.
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Monday, March 04, 2013 3:58 PM
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That is VERY high for idle and for load. Seems you may not have good cooling throughout your case. What do you currently have setup for your cooling? How many fans, blown out the dust? Also applied enough TIM to the cpu/heatsink? If you can get a picture of your rig it would really help out.
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Monday, March 04, 2013 7:49 PM
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i agree they are very hot! the case is completely open so air flow is not a problem. the sink is on properly and there is plenty of thermal paste. no dust this is fresh install. case is clean and open so i have no idea what is going on... i'm going to re-flash to latest bios and see if that does anything
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Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 AM
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Um, 'plenty of thermal paste' you say? What type? If it's arctic silver, you want a razor thin spread like a thumb print. You're just taking out the imperfections between the CPU and Heatsink, that is all thermal paste accomplishes. Caking it on makes is much much worst. I recommend Noctua Heatsink/Fan combos above all others, even closed loop liquid coolers. Also Noctua Heatsink/Fan combos should come with Noctua's thermal paste which is better than Artic Silver 5.
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Re:P67 Sabertooth Down (won't post)
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:28 PM
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well I know how to put thermal paste on, done it don't know how many times now. anyway i finally got the bios flashes to 3602 from 3302 or something like that anyway. this has brought the temps down to what i would call manageable, idles at around 40C, haven't tested the load temps yet. i'm going to have to rep the cheap Intel sink with something beefier but i can get by with what i have till i got the cash for that. thanks for all the help guys
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Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:33 AM
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Really sorry to hear about your losses. Glad to hear you didn't lose the motherboard as well if you lost the CPU, that's a little surprising. They are supposed to power off immediately if they reach a certain temp threshold, I wonder if the temps stayed right below the trigger threshold. Was the chip OC'd and/or the thermal protection on it disabled? AfflictedNation And btw the 2600k always ran hotter than the cards did. With the full blocks the cards never hit more than 70 while the CPU still ran close to 90-95 when folding and was at least as hot as the cards in game. That's way too hot for water. You might as well remove your CPU from the loop as use air cooling. Even without knowing your loop specifics something was limiting your cooling loop performance severely if that was normal temps for your original system. Or the OCs were a little to hard for what it was capable of cooling. Should be fine to continue using the water loop & working card, but I'd consider upgrading the loop before you add additional cards to it or OCing too heavily in the future. Also I'd recommend adding some additional thermal settings to your system can't hurt, you can configure most motherboards to power off at a configurable CPU temp setting.
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Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:15 PM
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yeah it was oc'd and the i didn't disable anything that sounds so dangerous XD. actually it did shut off giving me the temp error. i think because the loop wasn't being cooled the blocks may have effectively cooked the hardware even after everything shut off. just goes to show i guess don't matter how impressive your crap is, a small wrench in a big engine right. the little adapter that connected the fans to the psu probably cost less than 2 cents to manufacture and ship. guess i think twice next time right.
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Re:P67 Sabertooth Down (won't post)
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:03 PM
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Well, I've left a CPU fan unplugged before myself so yes, it's amazing how a little thing can get out of hand. But yeah, it's still disconcerting that you lost the CPU. I just wanted to try and figure out why since it should've forced a restart long before the CPU was damaged. Do ya remember the voltage ya used on that 2600K? The GPUs don't have the same protections and the PWM components on them get hotter than the core temps under sustained loads. (Was following this closely when everyone was testing the 480 Hydro blocks)
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