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Hello all,
I just bought a brand new EVGA 770 GTX SC (Blower config) and decided to test her out on Metro 2033. I used the GeForce Experience tool to optimize my settings but am still seeing some pretty extreme screen tearing. I wasn't able to find any vSync options in games so I am trying to do it through other means.
Something to note, my monitor has a refresh rate of 59hz. Would setting the framerate goal in EVGA Precision to 59fps solve this issue? Should I upgrade my monitor?
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 15:37:24
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Akwithrow
Hello all,
I just bought a brand new EVGA 770 GTX SC (Blower config) and decided to test her out on Metro 2033. I used the GeForce Experience tool to optimize my settings but am still seeing some pretty extreme screen tearing. I wasn't able to find any vSync options in games so I am trying to do it through other means.
Something to note, my monitor has a refresh rate of 59hz. Would setting the framerate goal in EVGA Precision to 59fps solve this issue? Should I upgrade my monitor?
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Hello and Welcome to the EVGA Forum  Try go open Nvidia control panel and select 3D manager tab to program setting. Find the game metro 2033 in 'select a program to customise' if not there so do add metro2033.exe into select a program then scroll down find Vertical sync change to set 'ON' and then go open Geforce Experience and select metro2033 in game and click change from optimal to Revert (mean it off setting)!! Try test metro 2033! Let us know how getting on with your metro 2033 
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 15:40:21
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I would not use the geforce experience tool, it will cause you nothing but problems cause it will auto adjust settings based on hardware detected.
Best to use ingame settings and Global Nvidia Control Panel.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 15:48:07
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I would not use the geforce experience tool, it will cause you nothing but problems cause it will auto adjust settings based on hardware detected.
Best to use ingame settings or the Global Nvidia Control Panel.
I agree with you but I have try test Geforce Experience so far 50/50 is good!! Not all game is not good smooth then I can switch off revert to set off and use NVCP is better but Geforce Experience will keep update for games everyday which is good!!! I can see Geforce Experience keeping downloading update games everyday to update game setting like resolution, FXAA, SSAO and texture and many more!! I think it not too bad really!!! I have two games use by Geforce Experience and test the game which are brilliant and helpful setting but some other games are not good!!!
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 15:49:52
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Hey OP I had the same issue and while the other suggestions in this thread are great. All I did to solve the tearing was go into the games config and change the vsync value to true or 1. This worked for my tearing which was also terrible.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 15:51:15
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I gave STALKER: Call of Pripyat a go using GeForce Experience and it ran as smooth as butter (no tearing issues or anything). However I just went and managed my settings using NVCP for Metro and was able to fix my tearing. So I think from my (very) limited experience the 50/50 ratio seems about right.
But in the future, I should upgrade my 59 hz refresh rate monitor right?
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 16:07:54
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I gave STALKER: Call of Pripyat a go using GeForce Experience and it ran as smooth as butter (no tearing issues or anything). However I just went and managed my settings using NVCP for Metro and was able to fix my tearing. So I think from my (very) limited experience the 50/50 ratio seems about right.
But in the future, I should upgrade my 59 hz refresh rate monitor right?
Not really but most games run at 60HZ or 59Hz is smooth and if you want 120Hz that for 3D vision split 60/60hz two screen together for 3D and some games run more than 60Hz!!!! It upto you want to upgrade better Hz monitor!!!! To be honest my monitor is 120Hz and 3D vision ready as I alway use 60Hz for most games because it so smooth and cooler GPU if more than 60Hz games look not really good but my GPU went to hot!!! EDIT> I do use 120Hz for my 3D games!!!! 60Hz without 3D Vision games!!!!!
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 16:23:35
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Turning on Vsync in Nvidia control panel seems to have helped out. Im pretty new at all of this, how can I tell how much it has affected my FPS?
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 16:36:01
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Turning on Vsync in Nvidia control panel seems to have helped out. Im pretty new at all of this, how can I tell how much it has affected my FPS?
That good!!! You can use EVGA precision X with RTSS (Riva Tuner Statistics Server) will show FPS On-Screen Display!!! Download EVGA Precsion here > 4.2.0 when done install Precision and RTSS go open Precision click configuration on top of precision tab > monitoring see below Active hardware monitoring graphs scroll down bottom see framerate click tick to turn on and then tick on in the box of 'Show in On-Screen Display' at below that it!!!! Let us know if any problem EDIT > you can look some pictures easy for you to understand!! here > RTSS
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 16:39:29
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VSync will fix tearing, but it will limit your FPS to your monitors refresh rate (60Hz)
If the card drops below 60FPS, it will cut all the way to 30FPS, exactly half.
You can also try Adaptive VSync, its a better solution but you may notice a bit more tearing.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 16:54:00
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VSync will fix tearing, but it will limit your FPS to your monitors refresh rate (60Hz)
If the card drops below 60FPS, it will cut all the way to 30FPS, exactly half.
You can also try Adaptive VSync, its a better solution but you may notice a bit more tearing.
why does everyone keep saying this? THAT IS WRONG, my framerate has never cut down to 30fps when dropping below 60fps when using Vsync. You will still get framerates between 40 - 60fps just fine it will NOT automaticly drop to 30
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 17:12:02
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No, it depends on the game. This is the whole reason that Adaptive VSync was even created.
If the game uses Triplebuffering, it will not drop, but many games do not use it. + TB creates even more mouse lag. Traditional VSync will cut your FPS exactly though. This is also why most console games are limited to 30FPS. (30FPS can be maintained)
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 17:32:10
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well I use traditional vsync and triple buffer and again I do not have these issues (mouse lag and 30fps cap), I have over 100 - 120 games in my steam library, I'm just speaking from my experience..... 
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 19:07:47
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I have to chime in here. Not one game I own does this FPS half deal with v sync. I literally need it for every game since my monitor from ASUS is a tear factory.
This did occur in older games when dx9 was the main thing and dx10 was out but nobody was using it. Adaptive in BF3 brings my fps up to 64 on 60 hz so something is def not working right with it.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 19:22:05
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I have to chime in here. Not one game I own does this FPS half deal with v sync. I literally need it for every game since my monitor from ASUS is a tear factory.
This did occur in older games when dx9 was the main thing and dx10 was out but nobody was using it. Adaptive in BF3 brings my fps up to 64 on 60 hz so something is def not working right with it.
thats why I don't use adaptive either, on a 60hz monitor it would keep disabling vsync when above 60, and enabling vsync when below 60, that can get annoying with it switching back and forth like that, better to have 60fps cap so vsync is on at all times. It will also keep the video card temp cooler capping it to 60
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/13 19:47:31
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I have to chime in here. Not one game I own does this FPS half deal with v sync. I literally need it for every game since my monitor from ASUS is a tear factory.
This did occur in older games when dx9 was the main thing and dx10 was out but nobody was using it. Adaptive in BF3 brings my fps up to 64 on 60 hz so something is def not working right with it.
thats why I don't use adaptive either, on a 60hz monitor it would keep disabling vsync when above 60, and enabling vsync when below 60, that can get annoying with it switching back and forth like that, better to have 60fps cap so vsync is on at all times. It will also keep the video card temp cooler capping it to 60
Ya I had to try it....kind of assumed it was something that wouldn't help me on the 60hz. Back to good old BF3 in game v sync. I don't get much tearing in BF3(in contrast to like every other game) however when V sync is on I also don't get much input lag(if any). I have a 1000 polling speed mouse so maybe that makes up for it. No mechanical keyboard but even movement seems to have little to no delay.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 00:04:15
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VSync will fix tearing, but it will limit your FPS to your monitors refresh rate (60Hz)
If the card drops below 60FPS, it will cut all the way to 30FPS, exactly half.
You can also try Adaptive VSync, its a better solution but you may notice a bit more tearing.
why does everyone keep saying this? THAT IS WRONG, my framerate has never cut down to 30fps when dropping below 60fps when using Vsync. You will still get framerates between 40 - 60fps just fine it will NOT automaticly drop to 30
its not wrong for games that only use double buffering. and that is MOST games. now dont kid yourself and think just because your framerate counter does not go directly from 60 to 30 that its not happening. if you check your frametime log you will indeed see that you are basically averaging 30 fps if you cant maintain 60 fps with vsync on in a game without triple buffering.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 00:10:16
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I have to chime in here. Not one game I own does this FPS half deal with v sync. I literally need it for every game since my monitor from ASUS is a tear factory.
This did occur in older games when dx9 was the main thing and dx10 was out but nobody was using it. Adaptive in BF3 brings my fps up to 64 on 60 hz so something is def not working right with it.
thats why I don't use adaptive either, on a 60hz monitor it would keep disabling vsync when above 60, and enabling vsync when below 60, that can get annoying with it switching back and forth like that, better to have 60fps cap so vsync is on at all times. It will also keep the video card temp cooler capping it to 60
capping at 60 will not make your card run any cooler than using any type of vsync since they are all stopping you from running more than 60 fps. just capping at 60 or any other number can be annoying in some games that have noticeable tearing as you will get steady tearing if staying at the same framerate with vsync off. by that I mean you might get a tear in a certain spot and it be persistent since your framerate is not changing most of the time.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 00:16:57
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Thank you Trek554 that was very informative. I think it is a 120 hz monitor on the christmas list as opposed to an SSD drive.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 08:43:43
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Move outta the sticks fellas. Time to upgrade to 120hz. Screen tearing is the single most illusion breaking experience in a game, specially after you've spent so much time and effort on your rig.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 13:53:47
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Move outta the sticks fellas. Time to upgrade to 120hz.
Screen tearing is the single most illusion breaking experience in a game, specially after you've spent so much time and effort on your rig.
120hz is more expensive and requieres SLI (again more expensive) to run smoothly anyway so no thank you, 60hz is better for those that can only afford single cards
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 14:08:02
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I got 3 60hz for basically the price of a premium 120hz screen. Of course budget permitting I can only have one card on them.
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Re:Excessive Screen Tearing in Metro 2033 with my new 770 GTX SC
2013/06/14 14:39:43
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Move outta the sticks fellas. Time to upgrade to 120hz.
Screen tearing is the single most illusion breaking experience in a game, specially after you've spent so much time and effort on your rig.
120hz is more expensive and requieres SLI (again more expensive) to run smoothly anyway so no thank you, 60hz is better for those that can only afford single cards
no it doesn't. Its funny when people think they need 120 fps to get benefits from a 120hz screen. there will be less tearing and less blur both of which will benefit you no matter what your framerate is. you are never going to maintain 120 fps in all games no matter how much gpu power you throw at it anyway. there are games that will be cpu limited, some games poorly optimized and a few games aren't even designed to be run above 60 fps anyway.
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