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Hi everyone,today the grizzly kryonaut arrived with the new power supply and I just wanted to ask you what screws do I have to get off the card in order to clean out the old paste and put the new one.The 1080 ti I'm using is a 1080 ti Black Gaming Edition. Also what should I use to clean the old paste on the gpu die?Is a little piece of cloth enough? Thanks.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 03:40:07
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Usually the 4 main screws on the back of the GPU chip. See the GamerNexus video to give an idea of what is like (EDIT: I know it's a video for the FTW3, but it's the same process). About cleaning your old TIM, Use isopropyl alcohol with some paper towel, and gently start removing it in circular movements (usually this is how I do), until all the TIM over the GPU Die has been removed.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 04:35:43
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Thanks for the fast answer! Do I also have to put the thermal paste on the cooler plate that direclty touches the die ?
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 04:39:09
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Sauron1 Thanks for the fast answer! Do I also have to put the thermal paste on the cooler plate that direclty touches the die ?
Not necessary. Just make sure, before tightening the screws again, that the TIM you have put had spread well and is making good contact with the Heatsink (no air bubbles for example, and tow rice grains on size if you're using dot method). Put the TIM, press the heatsink to simulate it's tight, and see how it spreads. You will be looking to something like this if spread correctly: https://www.ekwb.com/blog/thermal-compound-guide/ Other than that, it's a very simples and fast process.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 05:23:48
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You can find the isopropyl alcohol at a pharmacy or grocery store in the pharmacy area. Comes in different percentages. Like 70,80,99% pure.. you want 99% if you can find it. That means when it dries (In like seconds) it leaves no residue behind.
You should also use a qtip soaked in it to clean up around those tiny microchips around the die.
Pro tip to making the die super clean. Hit it one last time with the alcohol and quickly buff it with a dry paper towel before it dries and it will be streak free.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 05:36:00
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I always spread the Tim myself. Kryonaut is thick, so slightly heat it up can help with spreading. If you are not spreading it, at least use the star method (a plus and an x together) to gurantee coverage.
Personal experience. I have been retimming gpu’s for 4 Years. Dreading it guaranteed covered and every tiny mm of the gpu for had to get covered. There may not be a thermal sensor for every core in there, but they all get hot if they don’t have Tim specifically covering them.
Kryonaut got hot after 6 months. I have used mx-4 and other times, and always go back to Mx-4. Kryonaut thinned our over half of my gpu, on a water cooled system, and both gpus went from low 40’s to mid 50’s after a few months. Just watch your temps and you will be fine.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 05:47:08
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Mx-4 is good stuff and one of my favs i should stick with..
Recently been using Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme and a week ago when I had to remove my evga 1080 classified water blocks I seen on one card that I had only have the die with compound! I'm even pretty sure I used the star method. :/ crazy.. like someone whipped half the side of the die off! Cooled fine though below 40c on load somehow for a year haha
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 05:56:19
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It would definitely be 40, where the temp sensor was, but did you ever experience random stuttering or black screens that were very intermittent? If so, the half of the die not covered may have been angry or overheating.
I legit installed a water lock on one 980ti and installed it and ran it for about 30 minutes. It got up to about 55c... I was like, that isn’t right, drained the entire loop, pulled the card, removed the block, and immediately facepalmed... I had got distracted and never put even a micron of Tim on the gpu. (I told zophar about this when it happened, and I am legit embarrassed I did it) yeah.... ek waterblocks keep your card relatively cool even without Tim, lol!
Anyway, back to the OP. Retimming the cards are easy, just take your time.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 06:14:56
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the_Scarlet_one It would definitely be 40, where the temp sensor was, but did you ever experience random stuttering or black screens that were very intermittent? If so, the half of the die not covered may have been angry or overheating.
I legit installed a water lock on one 980ti and installed it and ran it for about 30 minutes. It got up to about 55c... I was like, that isn’t right, drained the entire loop, pulled the card, removed the block, and immediately facepalmed... I had got distracted and never put even a micron of Tim on the gpu. (I told zophar about this when it happened, and I am legit embarrassed I did it) yeah.... ek waterblocks keep your card relatively cool even without Tim, lol!
Anyway, back to the OP. Retimming the cards are easy, just take your time.
Nope! Card ran 2190mhz all day long and never had an issue haha.. a whole year like that.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/10 13:25:16
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AHowes Mx-4 is good stuff and one of my favs i should stick with..
Recently been using Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme and a week ago when I had to remove my evga 1080 classified water blocks I seen on one card that I had only have the die with compound! I'm even pretty sure I used the star method. :/ crazy.. like someone whipped half the side of the die off! Cooled fine though below 40c on load somehow for a year haha
Started using Cooler Master Master Maker just because I couldn't get X1 and wasn't thrilled with the performance of Gelid Extreme. I'm getting my lowest CPU and GPU temperatures with it. I don't have to heat it either. It spreads fine at room temperature. I think with GPUs you should be spreading because the grain method only works on CPUs because they use a lot of pressure compared to GPUs. So it's not guaranteed to cover the die completely based on the heatsink pressure alone. Also, with the CPU you're not squeezing excess directly onto the PCB but you are with the GPU so it's a bit cleaner.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/14 05:26:35
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Ok guys so yesterday I tried to remove the whole heatsink to put the new grizzly kryonaut tim and it didnt work at all. I removed only the 4 big main screws and nothing moved from his place. Should I also remove the other 16 mini screws?Do I have to remove the dvi support screws too? I need help because I am getting bad temperatures on max load and I wanted to try with the new TIM to see if I could somehow solve a bit of the problem. I have never opened gpu so I am not an expert of these things :(
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/14 05:47:44
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That's odd. As far as I remember, when I did on my old 1080 FTW, I just removed those screws and unplugged the fans and led connectors.
Sometimes it might be hard to pull because of the thermalpads are sticky at the heatsink.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/14 07:04:57
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I am really afraid of demaging the card...
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/14 09:40:02
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Look on YouTube for a video on how to remove a heatsink.
Though I will say in order to remove the heatsink one must remove 3-4 very small screws from the i/o plate and those 2 dvi port screws on top of the 4 main screws on the back of the card for the gpu die.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/14 22:39:32
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Hi again,so yesterday night I watched a video about the sc2 and I menaged to get off the heatsink all the 7 big screws,but now I got another problem,the led and the fan connectors... How do I disconnect them without demaging them?
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/15 04:50:01
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Sauron1 Hi again,so yesterday night I watched a video about the sc2 and I menaged to get off the heatsink all the 7 big screws,but now I got another problem,the led and the fan connectors... How do I disconnect them without demaging them?
You might want to use a tweezer. Makes the job easier, or a flat head screw drive (just be careful for not let it slip onto the PCB).
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/15 06:18:11
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It is impossible to remove those connectors...even with a tweezer these little things dont want to move from their place :(
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/15 06:39:10
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I am going crazy,the connectors are slowly killing me.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/15 09:11:09
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Ok so I finally menaged to remove the connectors and put the new tim kryonaut. From 80° celsius to 60° and the warranty is still avaiable. A BIG thanks to everyone,I almost cried when I saw that everything worked nice :')
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/15 09:13:02
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LOL! The fan and less connectors aren’t as fragile as everyone makes them out to be, but the small wires can be fragile. Now that you have it taken care of, it is good to see a hefty temperature drop.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/16 02:15:41
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Nice! Also, very nice temp. drop as well!
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2017/11/17 19:26:03
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Nice temp drop.
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
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Interesting results! Pretty much every other thread I have read (going back to 7 series days) has unanimously pointed to replacing TIM (especially on EVGA cards because they don't skimp on TIM quality) as a huge waste of time. I saw virtually zero difference on my EVGA 1080FTW using both MX4 and Kryonaut - and I have been building rigs for about 20 years. OC will be primarily linked to your silicone quality....TIM not so much Maybe you got some super secret TIM? ;)
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Re: Evga GTX 1080 Ti Thermal Paste change :)
2018/06/21 09:07:10
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the_Scarlet_one It would definitely be 40, where the temp sensor was, but did you ever experience random stuttering or black screens that were very intermittent? If so, the half of the die not covered may have been angry or overheating.
I legit installed a water lock on one 980ti and installed it and ran it for about 30 minutes. It got up to about 55c... I was like, that isn’t right, drained the entire loop, pulled the card, removed the block, and immediately facepalmed... I had got distracted and never put even a micron of Tim on the gpu. (I told zophar about this when it happened, and I am legit embarrassed I did it) yeah.... ek waterblocks keep your card relatively cool even without Tim, lol!
Anyway, back to the OP. Retimming the cards are easy, just take your time.
Nope! Card ran 2190mhz all day long and never had an issue haha.. a whole year like that.
That's one hell of an overclock! That on the 1080ti with the EK block? What was your OC before the water block? Was it much different? Watched a fairly recent video from jayz2cents (he had KingPin in his studio to do a LN2 OC on a card), and he stated that on air/water the maximum OC on any 1080 card is 2113Mhz, and the vast majority (like 95% or more) will be unstable on something. Bench tests are not a good indicator of pure stability - I can get my card to go to 2113, but it never stays there, and instabilities start creeping in. I had a 'stable' air OC on my EVGA 1080FTW of 2088Mhz, until I played BF1 and kept getting intermittent crashes or lock-ups. It was the OC that I had thought was rock solid - had to reduce the memory OC a little and all good again, stable at 2063Mhz. That's using secondary BIOS with max voltage/power and my system cooling is fantastic.
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