WOW! 100MHz Faster than every other 1080 can achieve! AMAZING!

Well, there are already 2.2GHz watercooled FE cards, but they are rare! I really hope that 2.2GHz sth that this cards can easily achieve!

I believe Gamer's Nexus said that at 2164 vs 2050 there was a 2-3% difference in FPS... so not much.
 
The issue is that the 1080/1070 OC'd give only +~11% over stock (FPS NOT clocks). Add 2% for a golden card. Then add another 2-3% for a higher Classified overclock at ~2200Mhz. At best that is still less than the 980 Ti's (and that is reference mind you) 20% increase (again FPS) over stock. Factor in a nice 980 Ti Classified at 1550/8100Mhz and that increases to over 25%. The 1080 is undeniably an impressive, fast card... but at this stage it looks to be a lousy overclocker.
 
Now... there are a couple caveats. We don't know if the 1080 Classy has higher memory clocks. Nor do we know if, just like with the 980 Ti Classy, high OCs (like 1550) can be expected on the majority of cards. We also may see better gains at specific resolutions vs an average (CPU bottlenecks bring this down).
 
IMO the writing was on the wall when early LN2 results showed only 2500Mhz max. IF 2200-2300Mhz is the limit for air water and LN2 is 2500-2600Mhz... that is only a ~15% improvement. If you look at the 980 Ti K|NGP|N, Vince got it to 1908. That is a roughly a 30% increase over average air/water clocks (1450). In other words... don't expect much from custom 1080s.
 
EDIT: I stand corrected on 1080 LN2 capability. This puts it at +~28%. Statements about the 1080 on air/water still stands though.
 
People with a 980 Ti... for God's sake please wait for the 1080 Ti.

AMP_US
I believe Gamer's Nexus said that at 2164 vs 2050 there was a 2-3% difference in FPS... so not much.
 
The issue is that the 1080/1070 OC'd give only +~11% over stock (FPS NOT clocks). Add 2% for a golden card. Then add another 2-3% for a higher Classified overclock at ~2200Mhz. At best that is still less than the 980 Ti's (and that is reference mind you) 20% increase (again FPS) over stock. Factor in a nice 980 Ti Classified at 1550/8100Mhz and that increases to over 25%. The 1080 is undeniably an impressive, fast card... but at this stage it looks to be a lousy overclocker.
 
Now... there are a couple caveats. We don't know if the 1080 Classy has higher memory clocks. Nor do we know if, just like with the 980 Ti Classy, high OCs (like 1550) can be expected on the majority of cards. We also may see better gains at specific resolutions vs an average (CPU bottlenecks bring this down).
 
IMO the writing was on the wall when early LN2 results showed only 2500Mhz max. IF 2200-2300Mhz is the limit for air water and LN2 is 2500-2600Mhz... that is only a ~15% improvement. If you look at the 980 Ti K|NGP|N, Vince got it to 1908. That is a roughly a 30% increase over average air/water clocks (1450). In other words... don't expect much from custom 1080s.
 
EDIT: I stand corrected on 1080 LN2 capability. This puts it at +~28%. Statements about the 1080 on air/water still stands though.
 
People with a 980 Ti... for God's sake please wait for the 1080 Ti.

Yeah Pascal overclock over out of the box clocks is for sure bad compare to Maxwell but when you think about it as you said 1.9Ghz was the record for Maxwell under LN2 and now we can do over 2Ghz on air .That's amazing . It's sad that on Pascal fps doesn't scale well with clocks over 2Ghz but when you know that you can achieve a solid 2Ghz prety much on every card i'm ok with this . I still believe that Vince will be able to hit 2.7 or 2.8Ghz if not with 1080 then 1080ti .

Kinda curious now if the FTW design will be able to fall somewhere in the middle ..... because i am still on the fence on if i should cancel my pre order if it OCs the same as a SC version.

saw this on my twitter yes i know its not your standard cooling

Dschijn

Raldi92

Dschijn
Well, there are already 2.2GHz watercooled FE cards, but they are rare! I really hope that 2.2GHz sth that this cards can easily achieve!

Never heard about it . I already knew that Galax HoF was expected to achieve 2.2G but it had some unstability issues .

Watercooled cards can achieve that, but only a few. GPU temperature has to be below 40°C (or 50°C) to avoid first minial throttle:
http://www.hardwareluxx.d...-132.html#post24641058

Link doesn't work for me

2100MHz +/- 100MHz still stands.

EVGA_JacobF
Sorry, definitely not 2.2GHz out of the box! 2.2GHz is a goal OC'd, but stay tuned for more news soon.

Poor folks had their buzz killed, hard!

Not that it wasn't expected. The Classified cards aren't usually that much higher clocked than a FTW out of the box.

Naturally I would go on this model... 
 

 
But I think Hybrid will be better choice this time.
If Classified work on 2000-2050MHz Boost that would be excellent card.
 

Raldi92

Dschijn

Raldi92

Dschijn
Well, there are already 2.2GHz watercooled FE cards, but they are rare! I really hope that 2.2GHz sth that this cards can easily achieve!

Never heard about it . I already knew that Galax HoF was expected to achieve 2.2G but it had some unstability issues .

Watercooled cards can achieve that, but only a few. GPU temperature has to be below 40°C (or 50°C) to avoid first minial throttle:
http://www.hardwareluxx.d...-132.html#post24641058

Link doesn't work for me

Yeah, forum was offline. Please try again.

EVGA_JacobF
Sorry, definitely not 2.2GHz out of the box! 2.2GHz is a goal OC'd, but stay tuned for more news soon.

Thanks for clarifying. That tweet got me all hyped up.