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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 09:58:22 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  


I've considered it, but I doubt AMD will be any more available than Nvidia cards have been. I'll just keep my spot in line.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 09:59:51 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  


I am.


There's plenty of time for 3rd party reviews and I'll be watching them closely but considering the miserable availability and the issues that I see keep popping up with the 30xx series hardware and drivers it'll come down to who has something in stock.
 
In a perverse way I'm almost happy that I haven't gotten a card as the driver and hardware issues on the 30xx aren't a good look at all and are typically something that I take for granted with Nvidia cards. Not so much this time. Far too many reports of cards working great on day 1 and bricked on day 2.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:03:15 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  


I am.


There's plenty of time for 3rd party reviews and I'll be watching them closely but considering the miserable availability and the issues that I see keep popping up with the 30xx series hardware and drivers it'll come down to who has something in stock.
 
In a perverse way I'm almost happy that I haven't gotten a card as the driver and hardware issues on the 30xx aren't a good look at all and are typically something that I take for granted with Nvidia cards. Not so much this time. Far too many reports of cards working great on day 1 and bricked on day 2.


Not sure I want to drop 700-900 of my hard earned money on a card that'll brick itself...  D:
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:04:24 (permalink)
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Yup, paper launch - release is November 18th, $649
 
Top tier card not until early December $999
 
 




Shoot, that's right the announcement was supposed to be today. Guess I missed it

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:06:52 (permalink)
Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:09:13 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  




I'm not especially swayed this gen, but I'm definitely going to be seriously considering an AMD GPU next gen, though I'd expect Nvidia to start taking them serious then too so we'll see. The GPU/CPU link sounds really good, especially if developers make use of it, and that should be around when that happens. Ray traciing will also likely be less of a gimmick and better supported in more games, and AMD's DLSS will be more than grassroots (from what it sounds like lol).
 
I'm also on one of the last old style gsync models that were produced, so I'm kinda stuck on Nvidia atm. That being said, if the new dell monitor being announced in November is a reasonable price, I might buy that and justify it with the savings from an AMD card, lol. Ray tracing is nice, but too few games actually support it still, so for most games it's straight up about rasterization... in which case AMD is making a hard argument.
 
I really appreciate EVGA as a business and their consistent excellence there has resulted in my settling on them every GPU gen so far, but fanatical consumerism is ugly and pointless, so I'd be willing to jump without real heartache. I think it'll come down to independent reviewers mostly, and whether it's true that AMD hammered down on the driver issues out of pure terror of a repeat from last time.
 
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Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?


 
Probably has to do with their "Rage Mode." Sigh, it's cringey to even say, but they definitely know who they're marketing too I guess...
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:09:36 (permalink)
I'm sticking with Nvidia, this round.  I'm a bit worried about AMD cards, as they didn't really show RT comparison, only raster.  I have a feeling they won't quite compete with the 3080 or 3090 in RT scenarios.  
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:10:35 (permalink)
Because they want you to pair with a 5950x 16 core CPU and still have some juice for peripherals and storage lol. AMD is looking mighty nice right now since Nv cannot even be bothered to sell to non-bots and since they are using the same process as existing products, chances are much greater of widespread availability.

And evga, you can atleast give the community a little by putting out 599 2080 tis and 399 2080S while you can still sell them. Saw a 2080 Ti Hybrid on b stock for 729, was a benjamin too high for me to bite.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:12:54 (permalink)
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I'm sticking with Nvidia, this round.  I'm a bit worried about AMD cards, as they didn't really show RT comparison, only raster.  I have a feeling they won't quite compete with the 3080 or 3090 in RT scenarios.  




It already leaked, and independent reviewers will compare it soon enough. Long story short the AMD cards are barely above Turing in ray tracing performance and have no true DLSS alternative to help things, but I honestly think Rting should be on the bottom of the list of things to consider. They just only recently added, what, 12 games to the supported list, making it 24 I believe, and a third of those were refreshes or lazy implementations by small indie dev teams on games with simplistic graphics anyway.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:14:06 (permalink)
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Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?

I have not bought into the NVIDIA 750 statement.  I actually just picked up a Seasonic TX-1000 (@gabolton, how do you like yours?) and will be installing it when I get my card.  It will be an upgrade from a 850.
 
Given the voltage spikes that have been reported with the 30XX series, I would not go below 850 if you can afford it.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:18:01 (permalink)
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Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?


min VS recommended are not the same thing. the min for the AMD card may be the same or lower. (just going off how you phrased it, if the min is 850W for AMD then that is strange)


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:18:28 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  


I liked what I saw from AMD, but there are some significant requirements to be met in order to reach the 6900 XT's potential.
  1. You need an X5xxx series CPU
  2. You need an x5xx series motherboard
  3. You have to wait until the the software ecosystem is implemented in Windows / Linux.  Drivers and OS support. 
The good news is I like the promise.  I have ab X570 and intended to upgrade to an X5950 anyway, so the financial impact for me is minimal, for others though .. not so much.
 
Makes me glad I bought the XC3 Ultra.  I have 6 months now to decide on my final card.
I suspect it will be between an 6900x and a future 3080ti
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:29:46 (permalink)
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Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?


min VS recommended are not the same thing. the min for the AMD card may be the same or lower. (just going off how you phrased it, if the min is 850W for AMD then that is strange)


Ah yeah, I missed that part.

Thanks for the clarification!
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TheBlitzAce
Something interesting I wanted to share.
 
The 6900XT is a 300 watt card but AMD recommends a 850 watt PSU?
 
The 3090 is a 350 watt card with a minimum of 750 watts?
 
Why could that be?


 
Probably has to do with their "Rage Mode." Sigh, it's cringey to even say, but they definitely know who they're marketing too I guess...




Hahaha yeah, Rage Mode got a few chuckles out of me but what can I say, AMD know's their audience.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:30:40 (permalink)
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AMD RAGE MODE.. lol ok, see plenty of that right here in these forums.  16GB memory is nice though.

lol, looks like they have some interesting tricks implemented to compete with Ampere. I would like to see 3rd party test.

Looks to be a paper launch, I'm not aware of anyone receiving cards to review yet, unless there's some super strong NDA where they can't even say they've got the card.


 


It's not a launch at all, it's an announcement.  Launch is November 18th.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:33:40 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  




Sticking NVIDIA as my monitor is gync only, no freesync.
 
That said, competition is good, and it's really good to see AMD finally get it together, both CPU and GPU
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:36:52 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  




Sticking NVIDIA as my monitor is gync only, no freesync.
 
That said, competition is good, and it's really good to see AMD finally get it together, both CPU and GPU


Holy crap, I completely forgot about gsync vs freesync...guess I'm 100% sticking to NVIDIA then since my monitor is gsync only. 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:37:13 (permalink)
I got my email to purchase!!!!! 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Registered for auto notify 9/24 15:01. I am having issues purchasing still. Called EVGA. They said there is an error with their credit card processor. They sent the info to accounting and will call me back when I can purchase... will update when I get my order processed.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:37:28 (permalink)
 
Just thought.. I'm going to presume those AMD cards were running on a PCIE 4.0 platform when those performance tests were done, would that be correct? ..so they were probably not comparing apples with apples when comparing results next to NVidia cards. Unless you do a full rig upgrade to AMD PCIE 4.0 motherboard and CPU, you aren't going to get the performance results they are touting, so if you're considering going AMD instead of NVidia now, remember that the cost is going to be a whole lot more than just the card itself (unless you're already running an AMD board).
 


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:38:31 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  




Sticking NVIDIA as my monitor is gync only, no freesync.
 
That said, competition is good, and it's really good to see AMD finally get it together, both CPU and GPU


Same here, unless KP is able to whip up a killer OC card from RDNA2 I'll be sticking with EVGA's top tier cards. The customer service and warranty is the best in the game.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:39:41 (permalink)
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I got my email to purchase!!!!! 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Registered for auto notify 9/24 15:01. I am having issues purchasing still. Called EVGA. They said there is an error with their credit card processor. They sent the info to accounting and will call me back when I can purchase... will update when I get my order processed.

Woohoo! ..and you're only 5 places in front of me on the spreadsheet... I can taste it!
Hey, remind EVGA to use an associate code when purchasing to get 5% off your card, or you'll be paying $90 extra because their card processor is having issues!
Gratz on the card though!
 


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:41:28 (permalink)
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Just thought.. I'm going to presume those AMD cards were running on a PCIE 4.0 platform when those performance tests were done, would that be correct? ..so they were probably not comparing apples with apples when comparing results next to NVidia cards. Unless you do a full rig upgrade to AMD PCIE 4.0 motherboard and CPU, you aren't going to get the performance results they are touting, so if you're considering going AMD instead of NVidia now, remember that the cost is going to be a whole lot more than just the card itself (unless you're already running an AMD board).
 


Correct.  They mentioned 500 series motherboards in the presentation.  They would have pushed PCIE 4.0 without question.  And given the complications of 550 vs 570 paired with 6900 vs 6900XT, they did not specify an actual increase.  Muddled marketing question and probably driver dependent.  Could be vaporware.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:41:44 (permalink)
Nereus
 
Just thought.. I'm going to presume those AMD cards were running on a PCIE 4.0 platform when those performance tests were done, would that be correct? ..so they were probably not comparing apples with apples when comparing results next to NVidia cards. Unless you do a full rig upgrade to AMD PCIE 4.0 motherboard and CPU, you aren't going to get the performance results they are touting, so if you're considering going AMD instead of NVidia now, remember that the cost is going to be a whole lot more than just the card itself (unless you're already running an AMD board).
 


For me, I have everything for my new rig but the CPU, GPU and Motherboard (I know I know)...so which ever card I get first is the one I am going with this time around. I have a EVGA RTX 970 with an i7-4790K so no matter what I choose, it will be a huge upgrade.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:45:32 (permalink)
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For me, I have everything for my new rig but the CPU, GPU and Motherboard (I know I know)...so which ever card I get first is the one I am going with this time around. I have a EVGA RTX 970 with an i7-4790K so no matter what I choose, it will be a huge upgrade.

Massive upgrade. You'll love it regardless of which way you go ..although I'd still recommend EVGA for the support.


 


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:45:53 (permalink)
I think I used yours Nereus. I only have the screenshot of the code...

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:46:18 (permalink)
Nereus
 
Just thought.. I'm going to presume those AMD cards were running on a PCIE 4.0 platform when those performance tests were done, would that be correct? ..so they were probably not comparing apples with apples when comparing results next to NVidia cards. Unless you do a full rig upgrade to AMD PCIE 4.0 motherboard and CPU, you aren't going to get the performance results they are touting, so if you're considering going AMD instead of NVidia now, remember that the cost is going to be a whole lot more than just the card itself (unless you're already running an AMD board).
 



Techspot did some benchmarks on the 3080 FE using PCIe 3.0 and 4.0.  It seemed 4.0 had some slight advantages at 1080p but 1440p and 4k showed almost no significant difference.  I'd be curious to see if the 6900 XT shows the same results.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:51:07 (permalink)
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I have not bought into the NVIDIA 750 statement.  I actually just picked up a Seasonic TX-1000 (@gabolton, how do you like yours?) and will be installing it when I get my card.  It will be an upgrade from a 850.


My sig was originally going to include an AX-1000 but when I used it in my current build I realized that I got a bad PSU with a dead 12v rail so it was RMA'd. That was the only non-Seasonic PSU I've used in the past 10-15 years.
 
Plugged the TX-1000 in to the same build and haven't had an issue. I also really like their cables. No capacitors so it makes it much easier to route even though you'd never know that if you saw the backside of my motherboard ..
 
I'd be very surprised if I had any issues with whatever card I end up with.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:51:28 (permalink)
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I am curious -- how many folks in this thread are swayed by the AMD gpu announcement? 
 
I am firmly NVIDIA (due to driver issues among other things) and will be watching the AMD news...but from the NVIDIA hill beyond the fence.  



If you look at the pictures they showed it all said the stats were with overclocking and the other new thing, but for the 3080 and 3090 stats they didn't say what provider and if it were overclocked or not. I'm assuming they were all running on AMD CPUs.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:51:58 (permalink)
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Just thought.. I'm going to presume those AMD cards were running on a PCIE 4.0 platform when those performance tests were done, would that be correct? ..so they were probably not comparing apples with apples when comparing results next to NVidia cards. Unless you do a full rig upgrade to AMD PCIE 4.0 motherboard and CPU, you aren't going to get the performance results they are touting, so if you're considering going AMD instead of NVidia now, remember that the cost is going to be a whole lot more than just the card itself (unless you're already running an AMD board).
 



Techspot did some benchmarks on the 3080 FE using PCIe 3.0 and 4.0.  It seemed 4.0 had some slight advantages at 1080p but 1440p and 4k showed almost no significant difference.  I'd be curious to see if the 6900 XT shows the same results.


I speculate that the impact of PCIE 4 will be in "Rage" mode because this is when the improvements to memory materialize in the AMD ecosystem.  It would be an incremental bandwidth increase so I suspect PCIE bandwith would be a factor.  How much remains to be seen.  
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:53:44 (permalink)
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I have not bought into the NVIDIA 750 statement.  I actually just picked up a Seasonic TX-1000 (@gabolton, how do you like yours?) and will be installing it when I get my card.  It will be an upgrade from a 850.


My sig was originally going to include an AX-1000 but when I used it in my current build I realized that I got a bad PSU with a dead 12v rail so it was RMA'd. That was the only non-Seasonic PSU I've used in the past 10-15 years.
 
Plugged the TX-1000 in to the same build and haven't had an issue. I also really like their cables. No capacitors so it makes it much easier to route even though you'd never know that if you saw the backside of my motherboard ..
 
I'd be very surprised if I had any issues with whatever card I end up with.


Thanks.  I bought it at a time when the EVGA Platinum 1000 was out of stock (it still is, but the Titanium is available) or that would have been my choice.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2020/10/28 10:56:08 (permalink)
Order placed at 10:50 PST. I don’t think I have never been so relieved.

CPU: Intel i9-10850K
CPU COOLER: EVGA CLC 360
GPU:EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3
MOBO: Asus Rog Strix Z490-E Gaming
RAM: 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3600 
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300 
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