Ya this week has been pitiful, but we got next week, Happy Friday all

xtremegamer
It has been a bad week barely any movement

I hope they drop some cards today. I am a few seconds away for the 3080 TI XC3 Gaming.

Happy Friday, and another LOL for the "EVGA makes more money selling to scalpers and miners" whining again 

enewt
Rough week.  
 
One edit below which is from a report of a drop from a few days ago. Today was...well...desolation.
 
Best of luck!
 
As of 1:50 pm PT Thursday, July 29, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of July 29; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report)):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
                 3987                   11/20/2020 06:55:55  
                   3975                   10/06/2020 09:10:42  
             3967                    06/03/2021 07:46:03  
               3955                    06/03/2021 07:22:36  
                3897-KR               09/22/2020 12:44:46
                3897-KL               10/05/2020 20:04:08
                  3885-KR               09/18/2020 13:53:00 
                  3885-KL               09/18/2020 14:42:39
             3797                   06/10/2021 06:36:58       (00:00:05) 
               3785                    06/15/2021 09:03:58
                3767-KR               02/16/2021 17:25:43  
                3767-KL               12/01/2020 17:52:05 
                  3755-KR               12/07/2020 19:40:37 
                  3755-KL                12/01/2020 07:36:49
            3667-KR                12/01/2020 07:30:47
            3667-KL                12/01/2020 07:38:35 
 
Gaming
           3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
             3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
          3953                     06/30/2021 06:30:25 
           3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
              3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
          3783                     06/30/2021 06:01:46 
              3753                     10/29/2020 06:21:40  
        3665                     12/08/2020 18:52:16  
           3663-KR               12/01/2020 07:35:17  
           3663-KL               12/01/2020 07:39:50  
                3657                    03/05/2021 09:14:28  
 
Black
                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
                 3881-KR                09/16/2020 15:25:37 
                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 15:38:15 
                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
                   3655                     02/25/2021 09:08:54 
 
Hybrid
      3988                    12/24/2020 15:20:52 
        3978                    12/14/2020 12:25:38
  3968                     06/03/2021 07:44:02
    3958                     06/03/2021 07:48:25 
      3898-KR               12/16/2020 09:10:17
      3898-KL                12/16/2020 09:11:47 
        3888-KR                12/10/2020 09:12:47 
        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:13:30 
 
Hydro Copper 
          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:29  
             3979                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 
       3969                     06/03/2021 07:44:07 
          3959                     06/15/2021 09:23:46 
           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:15 
             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 

K|NGP|N 
 ()          3999                    06/15/2021 09:15:54 
 ()     3998                    02/16/2021 09:15:03
                  1999                    06/08/2021 06:41:59  

 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!   twene  
 

People who signed up in September/October 2020 are only now getting notifications! I am not getting one for a long time (signed up around March 21).

this week has been more dry than my sexual life

enewt,

I think you forgot to bold the movement…I jest of course. Have great weekend everyone.

JoergF
Originally I had seen this waiting list as positive, by now I think it's just a farce. Such small quantities are distributed that people wait in line for months, even if they have already queued up in the first hour after release. Only to end up paying almost the same prices as elsewhere anyway, because the cheap variants barely move. If EVGA was serious about their customers, they would actively adjust the allocated quantities here so that the average waiting time is no more than 3 months.

But of course, that would mean they wouldn't make the even higher profits on miners. That's why they do a marketing campaign here with probably about 1000 cards (like AMD does in their own store) every week, it doesn't hurt the shareholders. Just in case anyone here thought "EVGA would be so caring and wouldn't have to do the promotion". No they aren't, And yes they do have to. This is just the usual marketing carrot on the stick, to improve their image for after the crisis.  

They will continue to sell to scalpers or to mining farms, as long as they just make 50 bucks more per card profit. Which means that this marketing campaign costs 50*1000 = $50,000 every week. Loss of profit, mind you, not loss! That's what you guys are worth to the company. But they are guaranteed not to accept $500,000 in lost profits by diverting volumes and selling 10x more units through the waiting list, which they would have to in order to noticeably reduce the wait time.

I'm on the list with >10 cards and am even 1h away from the release date for 2-3 already very expensive cards but still have no illusions anymore, there is no movement visible at all. And whether I pay the expensive 800 EUR on the free market for a 3070ti or "only" 750 EUR for a 08G-P5-3785-KL including EU taxes and shipping from Taiwan, it almost doesn't matter. Not to mention the price of a 08G-P5-3797-KL. And these are graphics cards with LHR!!

Even this crisis will pass someday and I will draw my personal conclusions for the future. One from this is just the confirmation that the manufacturers don't really care about customer satisfaction but prefer to pretend that it is a special concern for them. That is much cheaper. But it would have been naive to assume otherwise anyway. It's a pity that with a negative conception of the world, you're closer to reality than with an optimistic one. Is that an unfair criticism now? I mean, not at all. Wanting to maximize your own profit is completely normal for a businessman. What bothers me is just the dubious practice of having to pretend customer loyalty. Of course, that's a widespread thing and not specific to a particular manufacturer. So EVGA doesn't have to feel particularly addressed.
 
Everyone tricks a little, but it still hurts when you realize that you've been under your illusions again. Call me naive, I can take it....

Well, I'll take this bullet for the team, it seems.
 
Again and again, any single vendor (not EVGA specifically) would love to do their business only with direct sells, they would cut the middle-man (being it Amazon, Newegg, Micro Center, or whatever) which buys large stocks of GPUs at lower the price than MSRP, 'cause, you know, when they resell to end customers at MSRP they could gain some profit, and in cutting the middle man they could sell directly to us at MSRP, which is a price higher than they usually sell GPUs for.
But can't do that 'cause, when there's not an actual f**king pandemic going on, also coupled with a f**king global shortage of any kind of silicon due to unprecedented demand, middle mans are their best customers, moving much much more silicon than direct sell could.
 
Also, unless your work involves the use of GPU, sorry, but buying a new one is now a first need. If you are as most of us, and you game with your GPU, patiently wait for things to settle and game with what you currently have. If this is your first build, I'm sorry, but it's definitely a bad time to enter the game (pun intended). All I can suggest is try the second hand market on gamers' forums, maybe you can find a decent GPU at a decent price. Or, if you have PC gamer friends, try asking them if they have a spare GPU lying around to share for the time being, chance are they got something. It will not be the last, top of the notch, super mega crazy 400+ FPS graphic card, but you will probably at least play something, even at lower setting/resolutions.
Whatever you do, please, PLEASE, do not surrender to scalpers, or they will win. Again.
 
TL:DR version:
 
Don't blame the vendors, they only produce as many graphic cards as GPU chips they receive from AMD/Nvidia.
Don't blame AMD/Nvidia too, they sell every single GPU they manage to get out of foundries, but all the foundries are overloaded as demand skyrocketed this last year in an unforseable way. Plus, you know, pandemic…
If you want to blame someone, blame the scalpers, profiting over a perfect storm as never has been. And blame the miners, they hoard whatever VGA they can get their hands on, willing to pay whatever price the scalpers sell them at.

digitalownage
The thing I don't understand is, if I was intel this would be the golden moment to enter the market with something that comes close to what AMD/nvidia offer. This is a no brainer time to ramp things up, we are salivating at the thought of being able to buy a decent GPU.  

To enter the market, you have to have something ready to be sold. Clearly Intel's offering is not ready. Yet.
I gotta admit, I'm curious at what they'll bring to the gaming table, the irony if our next builds would be AMD's CPU with Intel's GPU would be over 9.000 (does anyone even use that meme anymore?).

Went to Micro Center this morning. No EVGA cards, but they had a bunch of 3090's in stock with some MSI and Gigabyte 3070 Ti card. The cheapest 3070 Ti card was the MSI card for $909.99 lol.

Eric99

kram36
Went to Micro Center this morning. No EVGA cards, but they had a bunch of 3090's in stock with some MSI and Gigabyte 3070 Ti card. The cheapest 3070 Ti card was the MSI card for $909.99 lol.

Which Micro Center?

Overland Park, KS.

JoergF
Originally I had seen this waiting list as positive, by now I think it's just a farce. Such small quantities are distributed that people wait in line for months, even if they have already queued up in the first hour after release. Only to end up paying almost the same prices as elsewhere anyway, because the cheap variants barely move. If EVGA was serious about their customers, they would actively adjust the allocated quantities here so that the average waiting time is no more than 3 months.

But of course, that would mean they wouldn't make the even higher profits on miners. That's why they do a marketing campaign here with probably about 1000 cards (like AMD does in their own store) every week, it doesn't hurt the shareholders. Just in case anyone here thought "EVGA would be so caring and wouldn't have to do the promotion". No they aren't, And yes they do have to. This is just the usual marketing carrot on the stick, to improve their image for after the crisis.  

They will continue to sell to scalpers or to mining farms, as long as they just make 50 bucks more per card profit. Which means that this marketing campaign costs 50*1000 = $50,000 every week. Loss of profit, mind you, not loss! That's what you guys are worth to the company. But they are guaranteed not to accept $500,000 in lost profits by diverting volumes and selling 10x more units through the waiting list, which they would have to in order to noticeably reduce the wait time.

I'm on the list with >10 cards and am even 1h away from the release date for 2-3 already very expensive cards but still have no illusions anymore, there is no movement visible at all. And whether I pay the expensive 800 EUR on the free market for a 3070ti or "only" 750 EUR for a 08G-P5-3785-KL including EU taxes and shipping from Taiwan, it almost doesn't matter. Not to mention the price of a 08G-P5-3797-KL. And these are graphics cards with LHR!!

Even this crisis will pass someday and I will draw my personal conclusions for the future. One from this is just the confirmation that the manufacturers don't really care about customer satisfaction but prefer to pretend that it is a special concern for them. That is much cheaper. But it would have been naive to assume otherwise anyway. It's a pity that with a negative conception of the world, you're closer to reality than with an optimistic one. Is that an unfair criticism now? I mean, not at all. Wanting to maximize your own profit is completely normal for a businessman. What bothers me is just the dubious practice of having to pretend customer loyalty. Of course, that's a widespread thing and not specific to a particular manufacturer. So EVGA doesn't have to feel particularly addressed.
 
Everyone tricks a little, but it still hurts when you realize that you've been under your illusions again. Call me naive, I can take it....

Realized that now.   Simply put queue is a captive customer base which wont go any where.  Business wise they will try to gain more market outside.  It is just like the existing employee & prospective employee , who has the higher bargaining power?  Based on alerts I receive I bet more cards went to  retailers outside than ppl on queue. 

kram36

Eric99

kram36
Went to Micro Center this morning. No EVGA cards, but they had a bunch of 3090's in stock with some MSI and Gigabyte 3070 Ti card. The cheapest 3070 Ti card was the MSI card for $909.99 lol.

Which Micro Center?

Overland Park, KS.

Almost went there to check stock while on lunch, glad I didn't.

There’s no doubt in my mind that EVGA could have leveraged COVID disruptions to bolster their direct-customer sales at the expense of their vendor obligations. But they didn’t. Doesn’t make them bad just typical.

johcamp21

mizzer
There’s no doubt in my mind that EVGA could have leveraged COVID disruptions to bolster their direct-customer sales at the expense of their vendor obligations. But they didn’t. Doesn’t make them bad just typical.

Think of a retailer as being just another customer like any of us. Now think of said customer that buys 100's of gpu's weekly even when demand is low. Now think of yourself - someone who buys 1 or two maybe even 3 gpu's every 3 years. That's right. The retailers are EVGA's best customers and the ones that keep them in business. What would you do? 
 
I hope that was simple enough for you. My brain needs simple in order to process. Just call me forrest.
 
On a brighter note it is Friday and it's time to crack one open! Hope my fellow quackery of queuers will do the same. Cheers!

Still at my desk at work, but I'll be crackin one when I get home lol. Pretty sure it's a beer night and not an Ardbeg night anyway.

So basically an entire week of zip nada and Monday is our next hope?