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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/23 17:53:15
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My SC17 order with XOTIC PC just hit the processed stage! I purchased there because they offered the option to replace the 1TB HD with a 2TB model, as well as Win 10 Pro. (Being able to remote into the machine is a requirement.)
This will be a desktop-replacement laptop used for development and occasional gaming. It's replacing a much older WUXGA laptop. Stepping down to FHD and losing screen real-estate was a hard thing to accept and so I was waiting for higher-resolution screens to finally appear in 17" laptops. (It's been quite a few years of waiting on that criteria!)
The top factors for the purchase were:
- Screen resolution to display a lot of text clearly.
- High-end processor and memory, good enough graphics that it'll play most games on an external monitor.
- Ideally without silly juvenile glowing logos all over it.
The SC17 was the first 4K 17" laptop to hit the market with 4K, the 6820HK processor, and not making an unjustifiable cost-saving tradeoff (competitors deployed graphics cards with only 3G memory ??). An extra $400-$500 for the GTX 980 MXM card didn't seem quite worth the price bump. Manufacturer reputation was a big factor. MSI and ASUS would both have been fine, but MSI isn't selling a 4K laptop with these spec options yet, and ASUS retracted their announced 4K offerings entirely. Early reviews of the SC17 build quality and EVGA's work on other hardware were enough for me to trust to buying a first laptop offering.
Thanks for making a laptop in the class I've been hoping to purchase for a couple years now. Can't wait to get it!
"The SC17 was the first 4K 17" laptop to hit the market with 4K, the 6820HK processor"
That statement right there is 100% incorrect. Alienware has had that option in their top end 17.3" Laptop since last year, the 17 R3 to be exact Plus 8gb vram, Though I think the 8gb vram was sometime this year they did that part, but still before EVGA. Really, other than maybe size this laptop is damn near identical to the Alienware 17 R3 that has been around since last year sometime. Main differences between the 2 would be the Alienware has Thunderbolt 3, and if you where so inclined has the ability to purchase the graphics Amp and upgrade your GPU, granted your losing maybe 5% performance on the GPU you do put in there but still it is an upgrade path that is not at all available to this laptop let alone the price tags are more or less identical as well. So with one you can either get the Alienware Graphics Amp or even a Thunderbolt 3 Graphics Amp for the ability to upgrade the GPU, with the other you do not have that path to even think about, Just smaller package. Plus there are a bunch of other options out there that have the 6820HK processor, though you may be sacrificing 4K on most of them, but most of the others also do have Thunderbolt 3.
I really don't understand EVGA not including Thunderbolt 3 in this Laptop, I mean it is meant to be an enthusiasts laptop right? Last I checked most enthusiast's are looking forward to Thunderbolt 3 and the GPU Upgradability to Desktop performance GPU's because of it, even with a few percentage decay in performance it still offers a forward path that is really quite lacking in this machine.
Not only that, the SC17 only features room for one M.2 Drive, and one 2.5" HD. Alienware 17 R3 features 4 M.2 slots and a single 2.5" Drive bay. As a laptop targeting gamers and overclocking that they sure left out a lot of things that would drive sales IMO. They can try to claim they were the first with a 4K Screen, unfortunately they're only lying about it.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/23 20:07:10
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't. This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 08:37:36
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't.
This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
You do realize the alienware 17 R3 and the SC17 is a 17.3" laptop.. and the alienware isn't huge right? It's thinner than the Asus Rog counterparts.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 09:13:48
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't.
This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
You do realize the alienware 17 R3 and the SC17 is a 17.3" laptop.. and the alienware isn't huge right? It's thinner than the Asus Rog counterparts.
Yes, of course I realize that they both have 17.3" screens. Read what I typed. Regardless of the screen size, the Alienware 17 R3 is larger. It is wider and it is thicker. It's pretty easy to get the dimensions online and check for yourself. The Alienware is 5.4% wider and 28.6% thicker. That was my point. It's easy to fit more (unwanted) expansion bays into a thick brick. If you want thick brick, buy thick brick. "Thick brick" = thicker and box shaped.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 10:58:16
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't.
This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
You do realize the alienware 17 R3 and the SC17 is a 17.3" laptop.. and the alienware isn't huge right? It's thinner than the Asus Rog counterparts.
Yes, of course I realize that they both have 17.3" screens. Read what I typed. Regardless of the screen size, the Alienware 17 R3 is larger. It is wider and it is thicker. It's pretty easy to get the dimensions online and check for yourself. The Alienware is 5.4% wider and 28.6% thicker. That was my point. It's easy to fit more (unwanted) expansion bays into a thick brick. If you want thick brick, buy thick brick.
This is more or less what I was saying, the SC17 is obviously smaller and for a reason, some people enjoy and or need smaller form factor. The inherent problem I have is with them marketing this laptop as an Enthusiast grade Laptop. When I think enthusiast grade I tend to think about expandability and upgradeability both of which this laptop is massively lacking. Thunderbolt 3 could have solved half the issue and it really wouldn't have made the laptop any bigger than it already is, in my personal opinion that is an obvious glaring omission to an otherwise fairly decent small form laptop, still wouldn't label in enthusiast grade though considering the limited expandability.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 13:16:44
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't.
This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
You do realize the alienware 17 R3 and the SC17 is a 17.3" laptop.. and the alienware isn't huge right? It's thinner than the Asus Rog counterparts.
Yes, of course I realize that they both have 17.3" screens. Read what I typed. Regardless of the screen size, the Alienware 17 R3 is larger. It is wider and it is thicker. It's pretty easy to get the dimensions online and check for yourself. The Alienware is 5.4% wider and 28.6% thicker. That was my point. It's easy to fit more (unwanted) expansion bays into a thick brick. If you want thick brick, buy thick brick.
This is more or less what I was saying, the SC17 is obviously smaller and for a reason, some people enjoy and or need smaller form factor. The inherent problem I have is with them marketing this laptop as an Enthusiast grade Laptop. When I think enthusiast grade I tend to think about expandability and upgradeability both of which this laptop is massively lacking. Thunderbolt 3 could have solved half the issue and it really wouldn't have made the laptop any bigger than it already is, in my personal opinion that is an obvious glaring omission to an otherwise fairly decent small form laptop, still wouldn't label in enthusiast grade though considering the limited expandability.
That's your interpretation of what 'enthusiast' means apparently. As already mentioned several times, many (dare I say most) understand 'enthusiast' as the performance level, and the SC17 is certainly right up there with the fastest components in this compact size, and the added ability to overclock, as it is intended for gaming and mobility. The SC17 scores top marks for both. If you consider 'enthusiast' level as how many extras you can add on and upgrade, then ANY piece of crap laptop is 'enthusiast' level if it has upgradable CPU and GPU sockets by that interpretation. Maybe that explains it a bit better?
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 13:52:45
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No BGA 980M / 970M has vram bigger than 4/3GB
EVGA not giving TB port is just an excuse to push consumer to buy the next model instead of being able to use an external graphics solution.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/04/24 14:27:17
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No BGA 980M / 970M has vram bigger than 4/3GB
1) All NVIDIA chips are BGA. Even the mobile ones which come on an upgrade-able MXM 3.0 board are soldered onto the MXM board using BGA. Even the desktop NVIDIA cards have their chips soldered onto the desktop board using BGA technology. Your comment makes it confusing to know what you are trying to say. 2) EVGA's SC17 has 8 GB of VRAM on its non-MXM 980M. Alienware's MXM 980M has 8 GB VRAM as well. So, I don't know which one you are referring to and why you say that none of them has more than 3 or 4 GB of VRAM.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/05/14 11:51:05
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Ok, I haven't seen any mention of it and I'm gonna be that guy...
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/05/14 11:54:45
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No BGA 980M / 970M has vram bigger than 4/3GB
EVGA not giving TB port is just an excuse to push consumer to buy the next model instead of being able to use an external graphics solution.
OR, like many of the rest of us, they think TB is not popular enough to justify including it in what is essentially a slim-line notebook. USB covers the vast majority of peoples usage needs. Just a thought...
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/05/19 01:17:23
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Maybe some of owners of this laptop like to use mechanical compact keyboard. SC17 have Bluetooth and Filco Manila AIR is Bluetooth keyboard is probably great choice. With Brown, Black, Blue, Red switches...  https://www.diatec.co.jp/en/det.php?prod_c=1468 Or Logitech MX Master Bluetooth Mouse. I could not use laptop without this little help.  With them it's completely different situation.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/06/11 05:34:33
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hi I'm currently in UK and was wondering if i can buy this laptop from this site? do you have it in stock?
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/07/12 02:38:37
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Performance of mobile Intel CPU and mobile NVIDIA GPU compare to desktop always stop me and probably more people to look further. When I think that i7 could give same performance as desktop i5 I look with different eyes. People who used on laptops don't look like that, but people who used on desktop probably yes. Now I see some laptops on market with desktop CPU even GPU. Imagine GTX1080 on 1080p, 17.3". How long you could play with that, up to 2020 on max. But they are not so slim and they are heavier.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/07/13 02:25:06
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Look laptop with i7-6700K and GTX980...
It's much better when Inside are best performance Intel and NVIDIA could offer with Skylake and Maxwell or Pascal.
Laptop with i7-6700K and GTX1080 or new i7-7700K and GTX1080 could be crazy good gaming platform.
Some people maybe like and 21-24" laptop.
Mostly for people who want laptop not because they could play games 1-2h in park or on street.
Because they could easy to move in bedroom, living room to connect with TV, bring with them over weekend if they go somewhere, on vacation and to connect him on the wall, normal. Intel i7-6700K 4.2 and GTX1080 could be great combination.
I bet inferior performance of mobile hardware keep people with desktop.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/07/27 05:26:57
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the laptop is outstanding and all, but how is the temps when overclocked and a heavy games?
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/08/16 23:01:07
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the laptop is outstanding and all, but how is the temps when overclocked and a heavy games?
this! I have a Alienware Mx18r2 with 675m in SLI...and that thing gets HOT.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/09/15 15:32:56
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The Alienware 17 R3 is also a big brick which is larger in size in every way. So, there's that. EVGA is obviously limited in terms of expansion due to their priority of keeping its size to a minimum. If having a bunch of drives is important to you, go with the Alienware 17 R3. Me, personally, I don't want a bunch of drives. The thing I care about most is size. Even if the laptop had the ability to add a bunch of drives, I wouldn't.
This laptop would be perfect for me if the size were a just little bit smaller. A 17" laptop doesn't fit under an airline seat. But, if I had to buy a 17" laptop, by specs alone, the EVGA SC17 would be my choice over the Alienware 17 R3. Your priorities will sway you one way or another. Nothing can have the best of everything.
You do realize the alienware 17 R3 and the SC17 is a 17.3" laptop.. and the alienware isn't huge right? It's thinner than the Asus Rog counterparts.
Yes, of course I realize that they both have 17.3" screens. Read what I typed. Regardless of the screen size, the Alienware 17 R3 is larger. It is wider and it is thicker. It's pretty easy to get the dimensions online and check for yourself. The Alienware is 5.4% wider and 28.6% thicker. That was my point. It's easy to fit more (unwanted) expansion bays into a thick brick. If you want thick brick, buy thick brick.
This is more or less what I was saying, the SC17 is obviously smaller and for a reason, some people enjoy and or need smaller form factor. The inherent problem I have is with them marketing this laptop as an Enthusiast grade Laptop. When I think enthusiast grade I tend to think about expandability and upgradeability both of which this laptop is massively lacking. Thunderbolt 3 could have solved half the issue and it really wouldn't have made the laptop any bigger than it already is, in my personal opinion that is an obvious glaring omission to an otherwise fairly decent small form laptop, still wouldn't label in enthusiast grade though considering the limited expandability.
I see where you're coming from, but you have to understand if you want true upgradeabilty you need to be able to upgrade the GPU and CPU. Currently the 6820HK in the laptop is one of the best you can get without going with a full desktop cpu. And at the time the 980M was the best they could offer. Now the newer one has a 1070. While it would be nice to swap out the GPU for a newer one you would need a thicker chassis. And that's going against what they were aiming to do with this laptop. Now I do think it's stupid there is only one m.2 slot. They easily could've had 2. But, it comes with a 256gb so it's easily upgraded to a 1TB and the hdd can be swapped for a 2TB ssd. So the expandability is still there.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/10/07 11:18:31
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In stock now at EVGA.com
Any idea when we will start seeing them at other retailers (Amazon primarily)??
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2016/10/11 20:46:17
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I got equipment
+ Well made, full aluminum
+ Beautiful screen
+ Matte screen
+ Sound, I did not know it could be so good
+ Computing power 3d max
+ keyboard
+ mouse
- Touch pad
At lbs I will not complained everything is very solid.
Why not 512GB ssd m.2.
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2017/05/31 16:24:03
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2017/07/26 06:22:35
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Downloaded the new version of precision mobile software, and now I can't downclock. Why did I lose that feature? I really used it a lot to keep the SC17 quiet during simple tasks :(
Any ideas?
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Re: EVGA SC17 Laptop
2017/07/26 06:35:34
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Figured it out. The option was there, but I had to toggle a button on the software. Now we have "silent" mode as well. Odd that I had to "turn it on".
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