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2021/07/01 11:30:52 (permalink)
Hello !
 
I have an issue with my card.
It's running super hot under load.
HWiNFO64 report 86.1° and 105.2° for the Hot Spot.
The 2 fans goes to 3300 RPM and are very loud.
The card are not overclocked.
 
Under Hitman 3
- Max GPU Power = 169.795 W
- Max GPU Clock = 1965 MHz
- Max Memory Clock = 1875.2 MHz
 
 
The ambient temperature in my room is around 30°.
My case is a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X with stock fans configuration.
 
Are this model known for running hot ? Or is something wrong ?
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/01 13:28:42 (permalink)
    My Gigabyte 3060 is cool as a cucumber .... 
    yours at 105 doesn't sound good.  the Enthoo is a great case for watercooling , but can be hard to keep air cooled devices in check , unless you got some serious pressure fans

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 02:17:53 (permalink)
    NethanelC
     
    The ambient temperature in my room is around 30°.
    My case is a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X with stock fans configuration.
     
    Are this model known for running hot ? Or is something wrong ?

     
    Cool your room down to 25C as you can't expect great temps on modern hardware if your room temperature is so high.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 02:25:53 (permalink)
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    NethanelC
     
    The ambient temperature in my room is around 30°.
    My case is a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X with stock fans configuration.
     
    Are this model known for running hot ? Or is something wrong ?

     
    Cool your room down to 25C as you can't expect great temps on modern hardware if your room temperature is so high.


    That would only lower the card temperature by 5c, so that isn’t enough. 5c ambient change won’t miraculously bring the GPU down to a reasonable temp.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 02:26:52 (permalink)
    OP, it sounds like you need to configure the airflow in your case better.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 02:35:12 (permalink)
    Temporarily take the glass side panel off the case and re test. If the temps fall a lot and the temps are much better. Its your case airflow and your cooking the card like in a oven. But If the temps stay more or so the same. The cooler probably is not mounted properly and you will either need to try to repaste and remount the cooler yourself or send for rma... 
    post edited by criskoe - 2021/07/02 02:38:48
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 06:22:44 (permalink)
    This is very abnormal because it should be sent for repair first.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 08:06:19 (permalink)
    GPU temp to hot spot temp should be a ~10C delta, not the 20 you're seeing.  Would indicate the heatsink to GPU die contact is not even - either bad thermal paste application or slightly misaligned.  You could fix this yourself but if you're not comfortable taking the card apart and repasting then open an RMA.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 09:22:51 (permalink)
    I tested again today and got same results.
     
    Idle = 50-52° (0 RPM)
    Load = 85-86° (~3300 RPM)
    Load = 83-84° (~3300 RPM) (side panel open)
    Hot Spot = 105°
     
    Even if it's very hot in my room, bringing the ambient temperature down to 24° (like most reviews) would still give me like 80° in load.
    This model should stay under 70° at load. So i would still be 10-15° off.
    Something is clearly wrong.
     
    I will try to unmount the card and repaste it the best i can.
    I am pretty confortable doing it.
    Will update soon.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/02 10:40:04 (permalink)
    Are you mining on it?
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/03 09:12:39 (permalink)
    i just got 3060 xc from antonline.com and card is running too hot and overheating. I don't have exact temps but it gets hot to the touch by the time screen goes black and monitor stops receiving signal. Sometimes ASUS Dark Hero gives me Code 00 and sometimes it doesn't.  Runtime last time before going black i think was less than 30 minutes. I had just got X1 fan software installed and was scanning my gpu when screen went black. Looking for infrared thermometer to give exact temps i am getting. I wasn't sure the fans were spinning at all but while X1 was running i confirmed the fans started to spin. I read reports that the cheap 1030's were overheating but i didn't expect this from the 3060.  Before X1 started scanning the software read the GPU was in the 30's degree zone but was feeling like it might be hotter and i know it was hotter by the time it went black. Thinking of starting the RMA process. Any suggestions? 

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    post edited by knowwho - 2021/07/03 12:40:01
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 08:05:54 (permalink)
    I'd test the card with the case side panel off first as @criskoe said first. If that doesn't lower the temps then proceed with repasting (honestly with those temps I'm 98% sure that's the issue, but still there's the slight chance that it's an airflow issue).
    Oh and 30c ambient isn't high enough to cause such high temps with a 3 fan card with all three fans running at 100%, unless the cooler is beyond... well not good.
     
    How is the CPU temps btw?

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 09:16:46 (permalink)
    I already posted the results with side panel open.
    It drop by 2°.
     
    The card is a 2 fans model, not 3.
    The Ryzen 5600X (Tctl / Tdie) goes up to 80°.
    Off course, the CPU is not at 100% load under all cores, it's just under the game.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 13:10:53 (permalink)
    OK.
    Here are some numbers.
     
    Prime95 (after 30 minutes)
    CPU (Tctl / Tdie) = 71.5° maximum
     
    Prime95 + Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Benchmark with Vsync off)
    CPU (Tctl / Tdie) = 74.8° maximum
    1132 RPM maximum
    GPU = 86.7° maximum
    GPU Hot Spot = 105.5° maximum
    FAN1 = 3322 RPM maximum
    FAN2 = 3315 RPM maximum
     
    No problem with the CPU temperature even at 100% load on all cores.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 13:23:48 (permalink)
    I just noticed the case you are using.  How many fans are you using, where are they located (front, back, top, etc), and which are intake/exhaust?  Just as an idea, depending on your fan situation, you might want to pull the front and top cover off your case as a test and see what that does for you.


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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 13:46:51 (permalink)
    3 fans
    2 front (intake)
    1 back (exhaust)
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 14:07:41 (permalink)
    The 140s that came with the case I assume.  That case is very airflow constricted, which is why I suggested taking the front and top off and see what your temperatures are like.
     
    My suggestion would be to add another fan in front so you have 3 intake, 2 on top as exhaust (it will set up chimney effect to get the hot air out), and leave your rear fan as is.  You still will have the airflow problem at the front and top because of the design of the case and short of leaving the front and top panels off or using a different case, it may still be a problem.
     
    ModMyMods (https://modmymods.com/) and a couple of other companies (maybe PPCS) did make replacement airflow panels.  Whether they still do, I do not know.
     
    I hope this helps.
    post edited by Flint 1760 - 2021/07/04 14:09:22


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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 15:08:45 (permalink)
    Yes stock fans that came with the case.
    I really don't think the issue is the case.
    I had an EVGA GTX 960 SSC before and it was at like 70-75° at full load if i remember correctly.
     
    I just tried to tightening the 4 screws at the back of the card to put more pressure on the GPU.
    Nothing changed.
     
    I'm thinking to let it down at the moment because if i can avoid to unmout the card, i will.
    I almost break something now when trying to pull the card from the slot as the latch didn't want to release the card and it's very difficult when there is no space to put your hands in.
    I really struggled to pull off the card.
     
    At the end, i did not encounter a single crash and the maximum temperature was below 90°.
    Honestly i'm more worried by the 105° Hot Spot temperature.
     
    But considering what's going on with the graphics cards market at the moment, i will follow the best advice that i know.
    "When it ain't broke don't fix it"
     
    Thanks you all.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/04 21:49:23 (permalink)
    So my friends. I am running PC and i got through the X1 Precision OC Scan. HWINFO64 reported my temps
    GPU Temp Min 112 F Max 175.2 F towards end of test and average of 144 F or 30 -80 C range
    GPU Fans didn't spin above 1600 for most of test and never over 1900 rpm
    Motherboard 91 F
    CPU package 97 - 109 F
    TEMP9 122 F
    TS10 97 -109 F
    PCH 126 F
    Chipset 125 F VRM 116 F 
    Case fans on 4 pin didn't go over 900 rpm most of test even though they supposedly can go up to 2000 rpm. Although i think i can program to ramp up. 
    I didn't crash through test so that is positive and it took an hour or so to complete. But this is also reference to anybody who believes they are overheating. I still feel like the GPU is hotter to the touch than the 68xx radeon HD amd that i had before it bricked. But that is subjective and i can not be sure. Still looking for infrared thermometer to confirm temperature of GPU while running.
    I can not say why i have not crashed as opposed to before. We can hope it is because i gave it time to cool off after installing NVIDIA drivers but i don't consider that reason for overheat. If i can continue with success i will go back to trying to set up dual monitors which was not detecting and lead to the first black screen i got with the 3060xc with windows display drivers. 
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 00:28:14 (permalink)
    So maybe i need to start searching other places. By messing with my fan profiles i dropped the heat on everything in my pc and my case fans can surpass 2500 rpm. I think one problem is that the fans are not engaging on the 3060 XC at the temperature they are supposed to. I will have to do some more playing around tomorrow to verify but at the moment i have them spinning at 33% manually together as there are two fans and i got the GPU down minimum 89F/30C. Also what i see in the X1 is that the card is set to degrade performance at 83 C / 181 F. So looking at the temps i was experiencing on the OC test/scan i was just below that threshold. 
    By default the GPU fan profile wasn't set to start spinning until 40 C and wasn't set to go to 100% until 90 C or something after the card is set to decrease in performance. Maybe i am missing something but it seems like a recipe for disaster? Is it just me? I mean OP says he was getting 3000 rpms in game and i am doing OC test at almost 80 C and fans are spinning at half that speed? Something seems wrong.


     
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 02:00:35 (permalink)
    For me 70% fan speed seems to be the sweet spot if you wanna run it at that constant, I'd play with the fan curve though cause if the fans are loud they can be annoying when you're just sitting at your desktop.
     
    @NethanelIC To my knowledge changing the thermal pads and repasting the GPU doesn't void the warranty so it's safe to do it if that's what's worrying you. If you're afraid of breaking something while doing so and I totally understand that (I wouldn't take things apart either unless I have no other choice) you may wanna try undervolting the card. On my laptop with an rtx 3070 undervolting dropped my temps by like 10c so it's very much worth it. Just look for a guide on youtube it's easy and very safe to do. If that sounds like too much of a hassle you can just drop the power limit in MSI afterburner.

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 04:12:41 (permalink)
    I know it doesn't void my warranty (That why i bought EVGA ) but as i said, market is all over the place now so better not mess with that unless required.
    I though off undervolting the card but that seems super complicated to me.
    I do not understand how i'm supposed to tell the card to run at certain voltage if the voltage itself is constantly changing by the load.
    If i undervolt the card to like 0.9V, it will run at that voltage even in idle ?
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 11:11:25 (permalink)
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    I know it doesn't void my warranty (That why i bought EVGA ) but as i said, market is all over the place now so better not mess with that unless required.
    I though off undervolting the card but that seems super complicated to me.
    I do not understand how i'm supposed to tell the card to run at certain voltage if the voltage itself is constantly changing by the load.
    If i undervolt the card to like 0.9V, it will run at that voltage even in idle ?


    You basically edit the curve (your gpu runs according to a frequency/voltage curve similar to how the fans run according to a speed/temp(c)) so that when it's under load it runs at a certain voltage (at a certain max speed) that you set it to, so you may look at it as editing your max point while (sorta) leaving the rest at stock. So it'll still run at a lower clock and lower voltage when idle.
    Check this video out it's pretty easy to follow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9K4PSqxoYg
    post edited by Red_Infern013 - 2021/07/05 11:21:32

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 11:44:21 (permalink)
    Did you optimize the fans after installing the new gpu,My setup ran hot until I did.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 12:05:43 (permalink)
    Red_Infern013
     
     
     
    I will definitely try that ! Thanks you.
     
    Trackseven75
     
    What do you mean by optimize the fans ?
    I did load the most quiet profile for the case fans in the BIOS but didn't spent too much time on this because i knew a new BIOS version was coming soon.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 12:11:27 (permalink)
    on the bios screen I had to go to fan control and hit the optimize fans and the mb sets the fan curve so I dont have to mess with it.Fixed my cooling but Im also running 5 fans and a cpu cooler.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/05 12:44:03 (permalink)
    If i remember correctly, i think i did that.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/06 03:30:20 (permalink)
    Ok lets see some solutions:
    1. Since your case has a filter in the front remove the metal plate your case is suffocating.
    2. Install 2 better intake fans for air pressure. Silent Wings 3 are ideal.
    3. Lower your ambient room temperature to something like 25c. That will give you -2c in temperature.
    4. Consider changing your case entirely.
    5. Consider undervolting your GPU. You can get it to 0.850mv @1935Mhz (as an example of whats stable on my 3080).
    6. If all fails contact support because the temperatures you describe are not very normal esp if the fans are running at 3300 rpm. To give you a comparison I keep my 3080 ftw3 at 70-72c max with the fans at 1500 rpm and room ambient 30-35c.
     
    Personally I think the case is the problem its a great case for watercooled systems. Do try removing the front metal plate Im pretty sure it will improve your situation.

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/06 05:55:26 (permalink)
    @OP, I have test data for the EVGA 3060 XC (sku 3657) as follows:
     
    GPU stress test (Firestrike Extreme), Overclocked, default BIOS fan profile.  Open case per sig.
     
    GPU-Z
    GPU temp max = 73C
    GPU Hotspot max = 85C
    Ambient temp = 24C
    GPU load = 99%
    Fan ratio max = 79%
    Fan speed max = 2300RPM
    Board Power max = 169W
    GPU Voltage = 1.0810V
    Max Boost OC = 2070MHz
    Memory OC = 2000MHz
     
    My results correlated to your room temp of 30C:
    my GPU temp max = 79C < your data is 5C higher
    my GPU Hotspot max = 91C < your data is 14C higher
     
    Opinion: I would try to re-paste the card or RMA it.  Contact EVGA tech support.
    post edited by staypuft - 2021/07/06 05:56:57

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    Re: EVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming very hot +100° 2021/07/06 10:29:49 (permalink)
    Sounds like you might need to check the paste application and worst case, re paste it and while you're there, use some MX-4. 

     

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