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2018/08/20 11:59:39 (permalink)
Will EVGA have NV Link for new cards available on 20.09?


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 12:38:48 (permalink)
Yes. NV Link is listed on the Nvidia website as a feature of the 20XX series cards. It specifically states that it implements the "SLI" standard at 50x the bandwidth previously available. I wonder if they made any changes that would make adding SLI support easier to game developers. I hope so. 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 12:43:14 (permalink)
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Yes. NV Link is listed on the Nvidia website as a feature of the 20XX series cards. It specifically states that it implements the "SLI" standard at 50x the bandwidth previously available. I wonder if they made any changes that would make adding SLI support easier to game developers. I hope so


Seeing as how DX12 multi GPU implementation is 100% on the game developers - nope. Maybe M$ will make it easier, but I doubt it.
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 12:48:52 (permalink)
I live in EU (Croatia) and there is no Nvidia shop for us. Im wondering when we can expect EVGA NV link on their site.


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 15:54:13 (permalink)
For all those invested in SLI, there will not be a 2 Slot nvlink bridge, so mATX systems are screwed.
 
I can only blame the horrible FE cooler for this.

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:08:01 (permalink)
I hope EVGA will have NV Link 60mm in 1 to 2 months. It sucks when you buy 2 gpus one from evga and one from caseking.de and you dont have NV Link to order :(


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:11:33 (permalink)
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Yes. NV Link is listed on the Nvidia website as a feature of the 20XX series cards. It specifically states that it implements the "SLI" standard at 50x the bandwidth previously available. I wonder if they made any changes that would make adding SLI support easier to game developers. I hope so. 


https://youtu.be/-NSDrjURnPI?t=3m47s
 
Yep i think new sli will be awesome just look at this.


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:13:43 (permalink)
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For all those invested in SLI, there will not be a 2 Slot nvlink bridge, so mATX systems are screwed.
 
I can only blame the horrible FE cooler for this.


Hum, the first full-card vapor chamber and you know it's a horrible cooler already?
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:15:12 (permalink)
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Yes. NV Link is listed on the Nvidia website as a feature of the 20XX series cards. It specifically states that it implements the "SLI" standard at 50x the bandwidth previously available. I wonder if they made any changes that would make adding SLI support easier to game developers. I hope so. 


NV and EVGA are two Different Companies but lets Hope that EVGA comes out with their own NVLink Bridge.
 
Supported Graphics Cards Only $80.00 Link See Bottom of the Webpage.
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, GeForce RTX 2080
   
GeForce RTX NVLINK BridgeThe GeForce RTX NVLink bridge connects two NVLink SLI-ready graphics cards with 50X the transfer bandwidth of previous technologies. This means you can count on super-smooth gameplay at maximum resolutions with ultimate visual fidelity in GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and 2080 graphics cards.

 

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:19:31 (permalink)
NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 
 
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How Nvidia's NVLink Boosts GPU Performance
 
GPU to GPU communication is the biggest change
 
Data rate bidirectional @ 25 GB/s  instead of only 16GB/s
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:21:23 (permalink)
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NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 


Do we know this for sure? I know it works that way on the Quadro cards, but even the GeForce cards?
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:24:30 (permalink)
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Yes. NV Link is listed on the Nvidia website as a feature of the 20XX series cards. It specifically states that it implements the "SLI" standard at 50x the bandwidth previously available. I wonder if they made any changes that would make adding SLI support easier to game developers. I hope so. 


NV and EVGA are two Different Companies but lets Hope that EVGA comes out with their own NVLink Bridge.
Supported Graphics Cards Only $80.00
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, GeForce RTX 2080
   
 


Well i hope EVGA will have their NV Link bridges because those will be ugly on EVGA cards and its impossible to get those for my country :(


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:28:37 (permalink)
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NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 


Do we know this for sure? I know it works that way on the Quadro cards, but even the GeForce cards?


I was watching the whole release video, I could have misunderstood


 
CEO, kept jumping back & forth -- like a bad time travel movie
 
I'll let you know

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:30:14 (permalink)
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NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 


Do we know this for sure? I know it works that way on the Quadro cards, but even the GeForce cards?


I was watching the whole release video, I could have misunderstood


 
CEO, kept jumping back & forth -- like a bad time travel movie
 
I'll let you know


You bought two cards and a NVLink also?
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:45:17 (permalink)
This page has what appears to be a sample of what EVGA's NVLink will look like...... I hope it is accurate  :D
 
https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/


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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:46:12 (permalink)
Shoot https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForce a message and see if Tom Peterson will clear it all up.

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:49:43 (permalink)
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This page has what appears to be a sample of what EVGA's NVLink will look like...... I hope it is accurate  :D
 
https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/


Looks good.
 

and check out those clock speeds!
 

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 17:51:38 (permalink)

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/20 18:04:26 (permalink)
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This page has what appears to be a sample of what EVGA's NVLink will look like...... I hope it is accurate  :D
 
https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/


Ok this bridge is so sick lol


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 01:05:01 (permalink)
So why does NVLINK allow stacked Vram usage and how is it different from HB sli bridge besides the marketing of new arch. and software. I actually want to know why or how is it different. Anyone care to shed light on this subject? Also does that mean SLI won’t be supported anymore for 1080 owners?

“This means NVIDIA can sell the GeForce RTX 2080 with 8GB of GDDR6 and if they wanted or needed more, grab a second one and throw it into NVLink and have 16GB of framebuffer. “

Why can’t HB bridges do that software level?

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com...0-know-far/index7.html
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 01:55:23 (permalink)
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So why does NVLINK allow stacked Vram usage and how is it different from HB sli bridge besides the marketing of new arch. and software. I actually want to know why or how is it different. Anyone care to shed light on this subject? Also does that mean SLI won’t be supported anymore for 1080 owners?

“This means NVIDIA can sell the GeForce RTX 2080 with 8GB of GDDR6 and if they wanted or needed more, grab a second one and throw it into NVLink and have 16GB of framebuffer. “

Why can’t HB bridges do that software level?

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com...0-know-far/index7.html

 
You are confusing terms with "Stacked Vram". Stacked Vram would be referring to implementation of memory, such as with HBM, where the DRAM is stacked with some form of TSV. You seem to be meaning aggregate, or additive.
 
NVLINK is a different bus technology that was developed as a higher speed interconnect than what PCIe delivers for GPU<->GPU and GPU<->CPU communication. This is the first implementation on consumer cards and it is ~50x the bandwidth of the older SLI bridges. The 50GB/s bandwidth presumably allows them enough headroom to let the driver manage aggregate resources like the Volta based Quadro and Tesla cards. The older SLI Bridges were never designed to share memory pools or other resources, they were designed to synchronize rendering for various types of SLI, such as Scan Line Interleave. SLI has gone through many different forms and meanings from rendering odd & even scan lines, rendering top & bottom half of frames, rendering two view ports for Left and Right eye in VR, etc.
 
Going across a 50x slower bus to access memory on another card isn't a software level issue. Even with that 50GB/s NVLINK, its still significantly slower than the 616GB/s local memory throughput on the 2080Ti. It will be interesting to see how SLI works on these new cards. It may require little to nothing from developers and the driver might simply present a "Virtual GPU", as Jensen suggested, of an aggregate of the resources while the driver manages which cores and memory instructions execute on.
 
This doesn't mean anything in terms of changes for SLI on 10 series cards. They will continue to work as they were designed.
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 02:17:28 (permalink)
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NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 


Do we know this for sure? I know it works that way on the Quadro cards, but even the GeForce cards?




That's what I don't get.  They never said anything about that and any info on this Link doesn't say ANYTHING about combining VRAM which maybe they aren't ready to do it on this series but maybe on the next so who knows.  Maybe it's there and they don't want the 2070s eating up all the sales from the rest of the SKU.  I would go the 2070 route if it were the case. lol

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 02:22:14 (permalink)
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NVLink the RAM finally becomes additive between the two cards 


Do we know this for sure? I know it works that way on the Quadro cards, but even the GeForce cards?




That's what I don't get.  They never said anything about that and any info on this Link doesn't say ANYTHING about combining VRAM which maybe they aren't ready to do it on this series but maybe on the next so who knows.  Maybe it's there and they don't want the 2070s eating up all the sales from the rest of the SKU.  I would go the 2070 route if it were the case. lol




"They never said anything about that", Jensen alluded to it when referring to it as a "Virtual GPU" so its not unreasonable to think it might. I agree though that its speculation at this point and it will be very interesting to see how NVLINK changes what they can do with SLI.
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 17:57:46 (permalink)
I hope we have a 2-slot NVLink Bridge from EVGA for those of us with MATX.  Only thing stopping me from picking up two RTX 2080Ti's right now.  Otherwise updating to an ASRock X399M with a 2950X.  Coming from an ASUS X99M with a 5820K.
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 18:14:01 (permalink)
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I hope we have a 2-slot NVLink Bridge from EVGA for those of us with MATX.  Only thing stopping me from picking up two RTX 2080Ti's right now.  Otherwise updating to an ASRock X399M with a 2950X.  Coming from an ASUS X99M with a 5820K.


I picked up two RTX 2080Ti's but i think we will get that bridge in 1-2 months. Probably end of october (i just have that feeling). Took them 1 or 2 months for HB Bridge (Pascal cards)


 

 
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/21 19:09:22 (permalink)
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I hope we have a 2-slot NVLink Bridge from EVGA for those of us with MATX.  Only thing stopping me from picking up two RTX 2080Ti's right now.  Otherwise updating to an ASRock X399M with a 2950X.  Coming from an ASUS X99M with a 5820K.


I picked up two RTX 2080Ti's but i think we will get that bridge in 1-2 months. Probably end of october (i just have that feeling). Took them 1 or 2 months for HB Bridge (Pascal cards)




I hope so! Thanks for the insight.
 
Source: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/nvlink-bridges/
 
Looks like there's hope after all
 

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/22 07:22:47 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby kacan22 2018/08/22 07:55:10
Yes there will be EVGA NV-Link Bridges!


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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/22 07:43:50 (permalink)
Thanks Jacob
 
and before anyone asks, I'll take a guess ----> When = Soon

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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/22 07:55:34 (permalink)
no "TM" with the soon? I never take my Soons without TM.
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Re: EVGA NV link 2018/08/22 08:01:41 (permalink)
Coming soon :)


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