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2018/05/08 08:56:09 (permalink)
I'm planning to buy a EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Hybrid but I'd like to know how to install it properly. My CPU cooler is a Noctua NS-D15 and it's positioned horizontally, blowing air to the back of the case. My Case is a Corsair Carbide 600c.

I think putting the GPU radiator on the bottom is not a good idea. I don't know if the hose is long enough to put it on the front.

Is it a problem putting it on the back. I mean, is it safe to put it right after the Noctua?
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 09:23:23 (permalink)
    From my understanding the best place is above the level of the the GPU.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 09:30:55 (permalink)
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    I'm planning to buy a EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Hybrid but I'd like to know how to install it properly. My CPU cooler is a Noctua NS-D15 and it's positioned horizontally, blowing air to the back of the case. My Case is a Corsair Carbide 600c.

    I think putting the GPU radiator on the bottom is not a good idea. I don't know if the hose is long enough to put it on the front.

    Is it a problem putting it on the back. I mean, is it safe to put it right after the Noctua?




    Inverse cases....ha... They recommend keeping the rad level above the pump if you can. If you cannot, pretty much any mounting will work. In your example, I'd just use the rear exhaust fan mount.
    Not ideal but you've have to work with what you have.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 11:43:11 (permalink)
    How far from ideal am I going to be? I mean, what problems may I have ?
    post edited by guictr - 2018/05/08 11:57:48
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 11:58:34 (permalink)
    Here's a (awful) picture:

    Edit: I don't know why I can't post an imgur link.
    post edited by guictr - 2018/05/08 12:13:02
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 12:25:00 (permalink)
    Put spaces in your link to make the link show up on the forums.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 14:42:10 (permalink)
    https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Carbide-Series%E2%84%A2-Clear-600C-Inverse-ATX-Full-Tower-Case/p/CC-9011079-WW
     
    Interesting that the picture of this case (3rd pic from top of page) shows 2x liquid cooled GPUs (one rad on back and one rad presumably on front).
     
    Looking at my hybrid, I don't think the hoses are long enough to reach the front of the case.  Front would be better (if hoses reach), but it looks like the back exhaust may be your only option for this case if the hoses don't reach.  I think that mounting the rad to the back exhaust such that the rad hoses are oriented at the bottom for better coolant flow may be better than the other way around (hoses at top of rad)...assuming the can reach from the 1st pci-e slot.
     
    Here's a a related EVGA forum on the same topic:  https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-1080-Ti-Hybrid-Radiator-location-OK-m2651094.aspx
     
    I would be concerned with GPU above the rad about air in the system rising to the top and thus not having enough coolant passing over the GPU copper cooling plate or going through the pump (both at the high point in the system).
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 16:05:09 (permalink)
    Here's the picture.

    I think I wont be able to install it properly. I think the alternative is getting one air cooled, like the GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Gaming.

    https: // imgur.com/ 7n8ToKi

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 17:55:50 (permalink)
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    Here's the picture.

    I think I wont be able to install it properly. I think the alternative is getting one air cooled, like the GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Gaming.

    https: // imgur.com/ 7n8ToKi



    That's the problem with inverted cases. For coolers using air or custom water cooling, it doesn't matter much. It makes things a bit more complicated using AIO's.
    Have you considered getting an AIO for the CPU?

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 18:07:05 (permalink)
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    Here's the picture.

    I think I wont be able to install it properly. I think the alternative is getting one air cooled, like the GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Gaming.

    https: // imgur.com/ 7n8ToKi



    That's the problem with inverted cases. For coolers using air or custom water cooling, it doesn't matter much. It makes things a bit more complicated using AIO's.
    Have you considered getting an AIO for the CPU?


    Actually I haven't, because I've just bought the Noctua.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 18:14:27 (permalink)
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    Here's the picture.

    I think I wont be able to install it properly. I think the alternative is getting one air cooled, like the GTX 1080 TI FTW3 Gaming.

    https: // imgur.com/ 7n8ToKi



    That's the problem with inverted cases. For coolers using air or custom water cooling, it doesn't matter much. It makes things a bit more complicated using AIO's.
    Have you considered getting an AIO for the CPU?


    Actually I haven't, because I've just bought the Noctua.




    I stopped using air coolers quite awhile ago. I operate on the theory of removing as much heat out of the case as possible. With an FTW 3 in there you're going to be dumping upwards of 500 watts in the case...and right now it looks like you only have a single exhaust fan. Things will be toasty.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 18:26:08 (permalink)
    Just buy a new case. One to fit a aio cooler for the CPU as well.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/08 19:03:41 (permalink)
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    Just buy a new case. One to fit a aio cooler for the CPU as well.



    I'm thinking that's the best thing to do.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 01:13:50 (permalink)
    Well, I think I solved. I'll change my case for a Silverstone PM01-RGB and put the radiator on the top panel. Now, the question is: is it better to pull the air from outside the case through the top panel than push it towards the outside?
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 06:35:11 (permalink)
    Personal choice, I always pull outside air in and push it out the back & top.  

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 06:39:28 (permalink)
    I could put the radiator on the front and put a fan exhausting on the top.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 07:46:57 (permalink)
    That would work, I have a 240 rad and 3 120s pulling in, for my CPU in the front and the 120 rad with its 120 for the GPU pulling out at the rear with 1 200 top fan pulling out. (also 2 120s at the bottom pulling)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 08:40:44 (permalink)
    In the new case it seems I'm able to install the radiator on the front without taking out some of the fans. It would be like a push pull config, but with the front fan being 140mm. Do you think it will work?

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 09:25:11 (permalink)
    The fan and radiator mounting holes for the Hybrid are 120 mm.  Without a 140 mm to 120 mm adapter, you don't be able to do that.
     
    You should be able to mount both the 120 mm radiator and 1 140 mm fan.  If you get a 120 mm AIO for the CPU, you can mount both as intake in the front.
     
    I personally use a Corsair H80i V2...it's only a 120 mm radiator, but it's thick...AKA more heat dissipation area.  This radiator cools my overclocked 5820 K better than the Corsair H110i v2 (280 mm radiator) I had previously.
     
    My general philosophy with a push/pull setup is to use the same fan for each.  With a push/pull setup, the static pressures add (not the CFM airflow).  The higher static pressure allow you to move more air through the radiator at a given RPM.  With different fans, the static pressure will still be additive, but each fan will produce a different air flow (CFM) for a given RPM.  The fan with the "faster" flow will drive up the speed on the "slower" fan.
     
    In addition to increasing the pressure drop, you can also hurt the longevity of your fan.
     
    Noctuas make good fans.  I personally use the Corsair ML Pro fans (with red LED...not the RGB ones).  These are quiet, and have a "flat-ish" P/Q curve.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 09:41:28 (permalink)
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    The fan and radiator mounting holes for the Hybrid are 120 mm.  Without a 140 mm to 120 mm adapter, you don't be able to do that.
     
    You should be able to mount both the 120 mm radiator and 1 140 mm fan.  If you get a 120 mm AIO for the CPU, you can mount both as intake in the front.
     
    I personally use a Corsair H80i V2...it's only a 120 mm radiator, but it's thick...AKA more heat dissipation area.  This radiator cools my overclocked 5820 K better than the Corsair H110i v2 (280 mm radiator) I had previously.
     
    My general philosophy with a push/pull setup is to use the same fan for each.  With a push/pull setup, the static pressures add (not the CFM airflow).  The higher static pressure allow you to move more air through the radiator at a given RPM.  With different fans, the static pressure will still be additive, but each fan will produce a different air flow (CFM) for a given RPM.  The fan with the "faster" flow will drive up the speed on the "slower" fan.
     
    In addition to increasing the pressure drop, you can also hurt the longevity of your fan.
     
    Noctuas make good fans.  I personally use the Corsair ML Pro fans (with red LED...not the RGB ones).  These are quiet, and have a "flat-ish" P/Q curve.



    That makes sense. I'll put the adapter in one of the front 140mm fans and the radiator right after, without the 120mm fan.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 10:15:08 (permalink)
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    That makes sense. I'll put the adapter in one of the front 140mm fans and the radiator right after, without the 120mm fan.




     
    You can give that a shot...but typically case fans (especially the ones that come with cases) do not have high static pressures.  They will have decent CFM, but the static pressure will be poor.  "High" static pressure with a "good" CFM is what you need to drive air through a radiator.
     
    The 120 mm fan that comes with the EVGA hybrids is actually a decent fan for this purpose.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 10:31:08 (permalink)
    But I will put the stock fans on the top and 3 ML140 Pro, that I already have, on the front.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid radiator location 2018/05/09 10:56:10 (permalink)
    That will work well!
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