vulcan1978
Also curious as to how EVGA are addressing cooling the top memory modules and how hot they get. 

Indeed.  I had a 3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid and the memory on the backside would get insanely when I mined ETH (known to be memory intensive), so the point where I had to run a desk fan at full blast to keep from loosing significant hashrate.  Sold it am in currently in the queue for a 3998 Hybrid although I'm 99.9% sure it will suck just as bad for cooling the backside RAM.
 
Ideally, the 3999 will have some sort of heat spreader that connects the main block to the RAM on the backside, but I doubt it.  Will probably have to fab something up.

Any idea on further availability of the Kingpin?

whyamihereagain
Any idea on further availability of the Kingpin?

Are you talking about the Kingpin Hydro Copper or Hybrid?  The Hybrid is available (via the queue).  The HC, like all HCs, is delayed.  Per a tweet from Jacob earlier today, it sounds like most/all HCs are delayed "at least a few more weeks".

Hi! Is there any info regarding availability in Europe?

When will the hydro copper release?

Is the KP HC block going to be sold separately for those that want to convert their AIO edition into an HC Edition?

Well, I made the decision last night to possibly take one for the team here, if they accept the offer. I had decided that I'd like to a go a somewhat different direction when it came to cases this time, and after seeing a few videos of it later last year, I was impressed, and thought it was an excellent solution. I decided on purchasing a LianLi DK05F desk case, I'm hoping it will be the last 'case' I ever buy. Probably not. lol
 
In one of the videos, I saw where they had a killer water cooling setup, so I looked into it and it appears it was a EK setup, almost all of the parts for the cooling system were made by EK, so after I'd purchased the desk in late Oct, I reached out to them to help determine what parts were used in that build, and got a list from them. Went to their site and started adding things to the cart, but as I wasn't sure back then what CPU and especially GPU I was going to be getting, I just left the big list in the cart for later.
 
Fast forward to this week. I obviously now know what card I will be using so I went in and verified that everything was still in the cart, and added the cooler for the Ryzen 5900x that I _finally_ acquired last week. Then I got to the video card cooler, and I ran into a wall. They apparently don't currently make a cooler for the 3090 KP. I emailed again the support fellow from EK that had helped me previously, sending him the list from my shopping cart, asking him to confirm I wasn't missing anything for my build, and also about the availability of said cooler. I offhandedly offered up my new card for them to use to prototype the block off of if they don't have one, as I couldn't find it on their site.
 
He responded to me this morning, in his email he said "For the 3090 kingpin GPU, I am not sure if there will be a water block for it at this moment. There are no plans for it if I check the roadmap for the next two months." I just finished up replying to him saying that I have read on some forums that sometimes the issue in producing a new block is the fact that the mfg might not have access to a relatively new card to prototype off of, and I am offering up my card as a loan, for that purpose. I figured that I am already going to be waiting to get the parts for the water cooling system, so it's not like I will need it for (at least) a few weeks anyways, and maybe we could work out some kind of a deal, as that list of parts for this desk build came to about the same cost as the KP card!
 
I just sent him the offer, and asked him to push it up the food chain, as I was serious in my offer, and if that is the only thing (I have no idea if this is true obviously) that is holding up producing the KP version of this block, then I am happy to send it over to you to get started making one. Hopefully I'll hear something back from them before they leave the office today, they are at least 5 hours behind me here, so it might be tomorrow. I'll let you know what I hear back from them, but here's hoping!
 
*edit* spelling. Doh!

Nereus

alha
*snip*

I believe OptimusPC have confirmed they are making a KP block, no ETA yet though.
 

Interesting. Any idea if its going to be actively cooled on the back?

alha
Well, heard back from him overnight, and sounds like at this time they're not planning on producing one. Buuuuttt... He did suggest that ppl with social media accounts to ping them regarding this, it might help move the needle. Honestly, I'm a little surprised, because although I know the Kingpin isn't the exact same layout as any other 3090 out there, I figured it would be at least similar enough to have a good head start in the R&D side of things so they wouldn't be completely reinventing the wheel, but apparently not quite that easy. So, if you're interested, I guess start hitting them with messages if you're able.

"Thank you for your offer, and yes sometimes borrowing a card is the only option. But it is up to marketing and R&D to decide on which to make. And this launch is really pushing the limits on our R&D as we launched more water blocks than ever and more are coming. Kingpin GPU is always unique as it is a special GPU, so it is not easy to launch a water block for it. Post some inquiries about it on our social media 😉​ that gives it more chances as others do the same."

Good on them for responding so quickly; I would have thought next week at the earliest.

Here's the latest 2 updates from my EK contact. Initially sounded that it was likely they just won't be able to produce the KP version, though maybe if they heard from enough of us, it just might happen. I had mentioned to him that it must be frustrating to work at the company that makes such great products, even probably working with the people designing them, but having to eventually purchase a product for his card from another mfg. Here is his reply to me:


 
Hello Al

I do understand that this launch was stressful for the R&D team as everything was pre-launched without samples. On top of that, the FE edition is not the same as RE and then there is also a problem with the new power plug. They still managed to launch more water block models in this short time than it was with the last launch. So there is nothing but respect for them from me. If there will be no kingpin water block I will get the FE 3080 GPU and EK water block as the water block is just beyond anything that was ever done and it will have a great resale value in a year or two. 

Just check the news section every so often and you will be up to speed. There is also a live show with Q&A on EK YouTube channel today 28th of January at 10am PST/ 7pm CET please check it out. You can even ask them when is the kingpin version coming out 😉​ https://www.youtube.com/w...ktop&v=2IU2PR4qRJo
 
 
 
 
Unfortunately I missed that Q&A show that night, but I'll take a look at their channel, and maybe catch the next one. This is his 2nd reply from early this morning, and he said I could share them both. It now sounds pretty unlikely we'll be seeing one from EK, sadly, so let's go EVGA! I had mentioned to him that it must be a fun place to work, where you're making great products that people really like. Here's his latest reply.

Hello Al

It is always fun, as we are pushing the limits of what can be done over and over again. 
I did ask the question in your name (and mine 😉​ ), and unfortunately, there are no plans for the Kingpin water block at this moment.  You can still look at the video as it is published.
They talk about it at 33:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2IU2PR4qRJo 

Yes, sure you can share it.
 
 

Cool, thanks for the info, this is the first time I've heard of them. Do you think that they make a very good quality product like EK does? Not that beggars can be choosers at this point. Wonder how it would compare to the block that EVGA is having made for them. And wonder which company is producing it for them?

ZERO RGB?? I like them already! Thanks for the 411, appreciate it.

fragility_V1

alha
ZERO RGB?? I like them already! Thanks for the 411, appreciate it.

Oh yah.  I have their Signature Block and the entire thing is metal.  It's a heavy boi.  And their FTW3 GPU block and backplate look to be just as hefty.

Yeah I have the Signature V2 CPU block - it's made from a 3lb block of brass. The finished FTW3 GPU block I believe is around 5lbs ..definitely hefty.
 

alha

Nereus
Yeah I have the Signature V2 CPU block - it's made from a 3lb block of brass. The finished FTW3 GPU block I believe is around 5lbs ..definitely hefty.

Is it brass, or copper? I'm not sure if it'd be good to have something in the cooling system made partially out of zinc? Either way, that's one big boy block!

The Optimus V2 CPU block itself is a big block of brass plated with "extreme corrosion resistant Pro-XE nickel". The cold plate on my one is raw copper, although there is a nickel option.
 
The Optimus GPU block at present is nickel but they do have an all copper option, although they are only pushing out the nickel ones at the moment as there is huge demand and it's faster to manufacture.
 
 

Wow, I never thought I’d STILL be looking at this thread daily for a hint of when I can buy my HC KPE to fire up my new computer (purchased case/MB/cpu in oct). Getting more outdated as the weeks tick by and newer stuff keeps coming out... can we get an update on what the deal is? I know evga wants to release this ASAP to maximize your profits. You’re not purposely not releasing it. Can you just tell us what the holdup is so we understand how long it might be still? I designed my whole system around a chilled loop, and I want a preinstalled water block!

Don’t be such teases. Show us a little leg or something!