digitalmonk

andressergio

mato76
Finally, finally.. we have today an update on the 500 Watt BIOS issue from EVGA (Jacob himself), but why we had to wait over a month to hear something... I really don´t understand.. This is excerpt from Jacobs twitter:
And we have to  thank PersonSuit...    


PersonSuit (@Person_Suit) tweeted at 2:23 PM on Tue, Dec 01, 2020:
@EVGA_JacobF Is EVGA even testing the 500w 3090 FTW3 bios anymore? Tons of posts in the EVGA forums saying they are having issues with it & that it’s not working on cards manufactured in Taiwan. Not a single response on this or update from EVGA in over a month. What’s going on?


Jacob Freeman (@EVGA_JacobF) tweeted at 4:09 PM on Tue, Dec 01, 2020:
Yes, we are still working on this. There are no changes on the difference location manufactured cards, the components are the same.

Still sad that Jacob doesn't post this here at least they could make a BIOS like the XC3 that can maintain good clocks for daily use stable, I've been testing super heavy games at 3440x1440 Ultra Settings with RTX on Ultra like Metro Exodus not only many passes of the benchmarks but gaming for days and the XC3 BIOS is great for this, the XOC is better for benching, XC3 can't reach highest XOC Clocks but remember these will jump A LOT compared to the XC3. I also compared XC3 anb XOC BIOS, have all the screens to show ya I can post if if you want but this is no solution for anything.
 
Cheers to All, Sergio!

So is the ftw flashed with the xc3 bios better for gaming? As in better fps, frame time etc... that's all I care about. I didn't buy this card to bench all day. I want to run my games in vr on my Reverb without any issues. I hava a moderate oc at 90gpu and 1000mem and all is running well. Windering if i should try the xc3 bios.

I also emailed Stephen Burke (Gamer's Nexus) regarding this and he forwarded my lengthy email to Jacob who emailed me back, confirming and acknowledging and issue and that he is "hoping to release an update soon." I have RMA'd a card over this exact issue so they have a non 500w BIOS card confirmed to use for troubleshooting. I am about to write up the details of the RMA'd card.  

I RMA'd a card for low XOC beta bios power draw/performance with a sidenote of high PCIE power draw. My previous card could hold a +120 OC without hesitation, resulting in an avg clock of 2070 in games like warzone/Valhalla/cold war etc... this card can only hold a +65 maybe even +50 MHz to run heavy games. I can overclock the memory much higher and a I wondered if the memory was going bad on the other card though. Other card would crash out of games and cause problems at +600 mem this card can hold +750 memory stable in any game. Also during 3dmark benchmarks this card will outperform the other card maintaining a higher avg clock (clock speed +2100 with avg clock 1927 is worse than this card with clock speed 2010 and avg clock 1972). This card benchmarks higher, consistently, and in terms of raw gaming performance, it adds a frame or to the other card. I still see perfcap power on GPU-Z. This card has actually pulled 497 watts in MSI Kombuster. It does pull a nice above 450 heavier wattage (this may be due to OC of mem which is where wattage may be going rn). While incredibly disappointed in the overclocking headroom in this particular card, I must say...if it's just being held back because it's power starved and there's a new bios around the corner and that 20-40 watts constant addition allows even 40 more mhz this card will be a beast. 14,140+ easy port royal scores (other card was at 14,040 avg). 21,500 timespy gpu score consistent (other card was 21,200-21,300). 11,150+ timespy extreme consistent (other card was 11,000+ under 11,100). One can hope there is an update soon. 
 

digitalmonk
So is the ftw flashed with the xc3 bios better for gaming? As in better fps, frame time etc... that's all I care about. I didn't buy this card to bench all day. I want to run my games in vr on my Reverb without any issues. I hava a moderate oc at 90gpu and 1000mem and all is running well. Windering if i should try the xc3 bios.

Much better bro, still I'm on Air if I was on Water  will be even better.
 
Let me give you an example on XC3 i use +85 Core (2100) and +1000 Mem (10752) and MSI AFB to monitor FPS, Clocks and Temps, so on Metro Exodus running ALL ULTRA at 3440x1440 (Acer Predator X34 G-SYNC 100Hz) you get DX12 100FPS and clocks fluctuate from 2040 to 2100 depending on the GPU LOAD and the time played because as i told you I'm on Air and nothing is good over 60C on these cards. I've tried ALL and I have all the screenshots if you want. BIOS XOC on the SAME Game will jump constantly and get as low as 1980 a thing that you'll never see on XC3 unless you play non stop for an afternoon and never let GPU cool down, temperatures here in South America are high on summer. So I flashed the NORMAL BIOS to XOC and the OC BIOS to XC3 and running like this. Remember again I'm in South America summer temps and humidity are high, I'm on Air Stock no mod at all jut a fan blowing at the backplate as it heats a lot. IF I was on water  I'm sure I'll get better results.
 
btw: I'm a overclocker and I bench but I love games and that's what I'm enjoying this GPU for. 
Games I've tried and NEVER go down to even 60FPS, settings maxed with RTX ULTRA (on the games that support if of course)
 
- AC Valhalla and ALL AC Series
- Far Cry 5 and all FC Series
- Read Dead Redemption 2
- The Division 2
- DiRT5 & and ALL DiRT Series
- GRID 2019
- Forza Motorsport 7
- Metro Exodus
- BFV & BF1
- COD Modern Warfare
- COD Black Ops Cold War
- COD WWII
- Horizon Zero Dawn
- Mafia Definitive Edition
- Ghost Recon Breakpoint
- Titanfall II
 
And that's to mention some, I have mostly all games that have good graphics. Any questions let me know ok?
 
Cheers, Sergio.
 

the serial of my card starts with 2014, which card type is that?
 
another question - i set the bios to mode 2, and overclock in msi afterburner.  when i add 140 to the core, has mode 2 added to the core already?  the mem seems to go to around 1100mhz and gets a score of 14522 in PR. seems ok to me. 
 
although still dont understand how a better bios would get a better score? is it because it keeps down clocking due to heat or power?  thus at those same overclocks with hybrid and a better bios it would not downclock and get better scores?
 
i see most people with 3090s get from 13500 to around 14700 in PR across boards depending on overclocks. the 14000-15300 seem to be shunt mod or water.

willm1224

cerealkeller
Are the RMA cards still pulling above 75w on the PCIE?

I just checked my log from MSI Kombuster: yes it pulls more than 75, however, it's much better in that my first card would spike to 84 if pushed this one seems to maintain a spike of 80 and hover in between 75 and 80 mostly from a few solid minutes of msi kombuster which is unrealistic and will hit power limits almost instantly. 

I have the ASRock X299 OC Formula which has the extra aid PCIe x6 Power Connector which is supposed to be used when you SLI, when you mod the card you will need it, still I plugged to see if it has any effects but not that I'm aware.

andressergio

digitalmonk
So is the ftw flashed with the xc3 bios better for gaming? As in better fps, frame time etc... that's all I care about. I didn't buy this card to bench all day. I want to run my games in vr on my Reverb without any issues. I hava a moderate oc at 90gpu and 1000mem and all is running well. Windering if i should try the xc3 bios.

Much better bro, still I'm on Air if I was on Water  will be even better.
 
Let me give you an example on XC3 i use +85 Core (2100) and +1000 Mem (10752) and MSI AFB to monitor FPS, Clocks and Temps, so on Metro Exodus running ALL ULTRA at 3440x1440 (Acer Predator X34 G-SYNC 100Hz) you get DX12 100FPS and clocks fluctuate from 2040 to 2100 depending on the GPU LOAD and the time played because as i told you I'm on Air and nothing is good over 60C on these cards. I've tried ALL and I have all the screenshots if you want. BIOS XOC on the SAME Game will jump constantly and get as low as 1980 a thing that you'll never see on XC3 unless you play non stop for an afternoon and never let GPU cool down, temperatures here in South America are high on summer. So I flashed the NORMAL BIOS to XOC and the OC BIOS to XC3 and running like this. Remember again I'm in South America summer temps and humidity are high, I'm on Air Stock no mod at all jut a fan blowing at the backplate as it heats a lot. IF I was on water  I'm sure I'll get better results.
 
btw: I'm a overclocker and I bench but I love games and that's what I'm enjoying this GPU for. 
Games I've tried and NEVER go down to even 60FPS, settings maxed with RTX ULTRA (on the games that support if of course)
 
- AC Valhalla and ALL AC Series
- Far Cry 5 and all FC Series
- Read Dead Redemption 2
- The Division 2
- DiRT5 & and ALL DiRT Series
- GRID 2019
- Forza Motorsport 7
- Metro Exodus
- BFV & BF1
- COD Modern Warfare
- COD Black Ops Cold War
- COD WWII
- Horizon Zero Dawn
- Mafia Definitive Edition
- Ghost Recon Breakpoint
- Titanfall II
 
And that's to mention some, I have mostly all games that have good graphics. Any questions let me know ok?
 
Cheers, Sergio.
 

Are you able to monitor wattage draw on the card with XC3 bios flashed onto a ftw3 ultra 3090? This is the only reason I haven't done it really, besides the fact that doing so will void my warranty if the card were to die for whatever reason and I couldn't get the bios off and back to normal they would not accept it when they got it for RMA. 

slovak_killer
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/227017 gift from Starlord

Has anyone tested this? I’ve been out of the loop for a few days?

slovak_killer
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/227017 gift from Starlord

yo man I remember talking to you before, does that work on our cards??

andressergio

cerealkeller

slovak_killer
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/227017 gift from Starlord

Has anyone tested this? I’ve been out of the loop for a few days?

KPE cards are fully unlocked I had a 1080TI and 2080Ti and you can also use the classified tool to give more/less volts and control the protections, if our FTW3 is limited won't help but will have to see if it works.
 
Thank You!

I think it will brick my card bc the boost clock is 1920 and my RMA card can literally only handle +65 to the 1800....my old card could rock +120, sad day for me if this bios works for cards with OC headroom. 

and the 480 w variant
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227016/227016
 

cerealkeller
Are the RMA cards still pulling above 75w on the PCIE?

I RMA'd my day 1 card because it pulled up to 82W average from the PCIE completely stock. The refurbished card (also a fairly low S/N, from Taiwan) pulls a lot less, but still goes to up to 77W average while overclocked (stock is just about the same, though 76W average at most from limited testing).
 
Slight coil whine when folding so it must have been quite bad for the first owner, and the first I've heard any in years. It also overclocks a little better than the first card, for those that are interested in the PCIE draw vs OC potential (it may be anecdotal though, and more likely it's better silicon quality).

andressergio
Jayz2Cents is using a 214% Power Limit BIOS for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming anyone has access to it? 

He improved his scores on Air putting the AC unit in a tunnel to the GPU direct and seems the BIOS helped....
 
https://youtu.be/4Omm7-ygimc?t=787
 
Starts on min 13:07

I think they only gave that to Jay for marketing purposes.

cerealkeller
My 8 pin #3 also over draws, hits 160+ watts while 1 and 2 are around 115

Is this with the XC3 bios? With any FTW bios' my #3 pin consistently draws 30w less than the other two. 

whaleboy_2048

cerealkeller
My 8 pin #3 also over draws, hits 160+ watts while 1 and 2 are around 115

Is this with the XC3 bios? With any FTW bios' my #3 pin consistently draws 30w less than the other two. 

With the factory BIOS and the XOC BIOS

Tried out the 520W Kingpin vbios, the screenshot is a few minutes of furmark @ 11520x2160; averaged 488W and peaked at 523.4. The fan control is wonky, I'd imagine this is because one of the fan controls normally gets repurposed for the water pump. Not quite as bad as the fan problems I had with the XC3 bios though.