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Optional BIOS updates are now available for the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 that enables 11GHz memory speed, this update is OPTIONAL and gives improved performance in 3D applications. NOTE: A small number of cards may not be stable at this new performance mode, please see below for installation instructions.
 
For FTW2 cards, you can flash the primary or secondary BIOS. To flash the secondary BIOS the BIOS switch on the card MUST be set to the secondary position before applying update. Flashing to one BIOS is recommended in case you need to switch back for any reason.
 
Windows (64bit) Installation
  • Download the correct .zip file below for your graphics card below. ENSURE THE PART NUMBER MATCHES.
  • Extract the files to a location on disk.
  • Make sure no programs are running in the background, and double click update.exe.
  • Press "Y" to begin the update.
  • DO NOT TURN OFF POWER OR RESET DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS!
  • After update, restart PC.
 
BIOS Update
 
Testing
After applying the BIOS it is recommended to test for stability, a small number of cards may not be compatible with this update. Use a 3D application or game and watch for any visual abnormalities or game crashes, if this occurs please contact our support at 888-880-3842 or support@evga.com so we can assist you. As a reminder this BIOS update is OPTIONAL.
 
Unigine Superposition Benchmark Result on EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2
Before BIOS Update

 
After BIOS Update

 
If for whatever reason you need to flash back to the original BIOS, please use the below links to revert back to original (10GHz) performance mode:
 
 

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 06:09:51 (permalink)
    Thanks Jacob. I guess that answers the question if EVGA will be selling the 11gbps version. A bios update is much cheaper lol.

    Most important part of the entire post as well... too many people will be posting issues without read this. Everypne SHOULD save the original bios through GPU-Z before updating.
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    After applying the BIOS it is recommended to test for stability, a small number of cards may not be compatible with this update. Use a 3D application or game and watch for any visual abnormalities or game crashes, if this occurs please contact our support at 888-880-3842 or support@evga.com so we can assist you. As a reminder this BIOS update is OPTIONAL.
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 06:15:36 (permalink)
    Forum post will be updated with original BIOS shortly if you need to flash back for any reason.
     
    EDIT: Original BIOS's are now in top post. If need to flash back for any reason use the above links.


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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 06:26:26 (permalink)
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    Forum post will be updated with original BIOS shortly if you need to flash back for any reason.


    Again, thank you. That would be awesome just in case.
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 06:43:42 (permalink)
    The download descriptions are not correct, Jacob
    6686 is 1080 FTW2
    6684 is 1080 FTW2 DT
    6583 is 1080 SC2
    6581 is 1080 icX
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 07:46:08 (permalink)
    It's corrected, thanks


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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:22:24 (permalink)
    I will be testing this out this morning,  I'll chart averaged runs over a few top benchmarks and games to see what this does performance wise.  I'll try to post these results later this evening if I can.
     
     
    post edited by cloiselle1 - 2017/04/20 09:19:47
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:24:51 (permalink)
    So this begs the question. Do the current 1080 FTW2 iCX cards already have the improved 11Gbps GDDR5X chips? Or is this BIOS update just pushing the old 10 Gbps GDDR5X chips to their limits?
     
    In other words, do my 1080 FTW2 iCX RAM chips have even more headroom? Or are we taking 10Gbps RAM and just overclocking it to it's max with the BIOS update?

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:38:54 (permalink)
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    So this begs the question. Do the current 1080 FTW2 iCX cards already have the improved 11Gbps GDDR5X chips? Or is this BIOS update just pushing the old 10 Gbps GDDR5X chips to their limits?
     
    In other words, do my 1080 FTW2 iCX RAM chips have even more headroom? Or are we taking 10Gbps RAM and just overclocking it to it's max with the BIOS update?


    I bet its just like you say and they are just OCing the 10Gbps GDDR5X cause the new GDDR5X on 1080ti and titan Xp is 2nd Gen 
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:40:49 (permalink)
    it's literally a reflash of the bios to make the old, 10000 gbps chips run at 11, it's kinda worrying because these modules actually saturate at certain speeds and DO NOT offer better performance or scores because of the noise created in the throughput............ That's why specific 11g modules exist, they were designed to counter this behavior at higher frequencies. 
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:48:06 (permalink)
    cloiselle1
    it's literally a reflash of the bios to make the old, 10000 gbps chips run at 11, it's kinda worrying because these modules actually saturate at certain speeds and DO NOT offer better performance or scores because of the noise created in the throughput............ That's why specific 11g modules exist, they were designed to counter this behavior at higher frequencies. 


    Exactly the reason I'm asking. However, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the FTW2 cards got these new RAM chips. These cards were produced around the same time the new GDDR5X chips would have been available. Maybe eVGA wanted to go ahead and outfit these iCX cards with better memory, but couldn't announce it until nVidia made the official announcement. Now that it's out in the open, they conveniently release a BIOS update that unlocks that hidden potential.
     
    Either way, I'll be flashing and testing this all weekend. =) 

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:49:35 (permalink)
    cloiselle1
    it's literally a reflash of the bios to make the old, 10000 gbps chips run at 11, it's kinda worrying because these modules actually saturate at certain speeds and DO NOT offer better performance or scores because of the noise created in the throughput............ That's why specific 11g modules exist, they were designed to counter this behavior at higher frequencies. 


    here is the proof look at the model # of the mem on these PCBs the 1080 FTW and 1080 FTW2 both have same model # the 1080ti has totally different # 
    GTX 1080 FTW




    GTX 1080 FTW2 

     
    GTX 1080ti

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:54:32 (permalink)
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    cloiselle1
    it's literally a reflash of the bios to make the old, 10000 gbps chips run at 11, it's kinda worrying because these modules actually saturate at certain speeds and DO NOT offer better performance or scores because of the noise created in the throughput............ That's why specific 11g modules exist, they were designed to counter this behavior at higher frequencies. 


    Exactly the reason I'm asking. However, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the FTW2 cards got these new RAM chips. These cards were produced around the same time the new GDDR5X chips would have been available. Maybe eVGA wanted to go ahead and outfit these iCX cards with better memory, but couldn't announce it until nVidia made the official announcement. Now that it's out in the open, they conveniently release a BIOS update that unlocks that hidden potential.
     
    Either way, I'll be flashing and testing this all weekend. =) 


     
    Sadly no, these are the old chips the 2nd revision is a totally different model.
     
    I'd say this to anyone potentially looking at flashing, benchmark several runs and average them out at different memory oc's. if you start seeing a certain decline in performance at a certain point, you'll know whether or not it's worth your time.
     
    I've seen FTW2's that actually lose performance at as little as +200 total mem, others that are good up to 800 or so....  Mine loses performance at 400, Curious if this bios revision changes anything else to help potential...
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:55:07 (permalink)
    it is stupid to flash your native 10gbps 1.35v vram chip on your old 1080 to new 11gbps bios.
    because the new 1080 comes with native 11gbps  1.35v vram chip...
     
    unless the ftw2 and sc2 are using native 11gbps 1.35v vram chip, which is disgusting to all ftw1 sc1 buyers
    post edited by evgauser28764 - 2017/04/20 08:57:54
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 08:56:54 (permalink)
    I'm glad you can read that. I can only make out number on the FTW. The FTW2 and 1080Ti are too blurry or faded to read.

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:01:42 (permalink)
    Oh evga...
     
     

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:02:06 (permalink)
    Well the fact that there will be some cards that won't be stable at this new memory speeds probably means no, EVGA should have have released a new version with the new memory to avoid these issues.  I was able to overclock my GTX 1080 FTW ACX memory to 11gbs but I did not dare to test it in games for obvious reasons.  I got one last July so it may die early do to a faulty VRMs, I did do the bios and thermal pads fix though.  Perhaps I should pay for an ICX upgrade for the extra cooling and this new 11gbs memory, plus the option to step up to a Ti?
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:13:55 (permalink)
    And GTX 1080 FE ?
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:21:39 (permalink)
    Here's another thought.
     
    Since they only made this BIOS update available to the iCX cards, they must have different memory chips. Otherwise they would release a similar BIOS update for all the other 1080s in the line. Why are the iCX cards the only ones to get the bump in speed if all the other 1080s have the same RAM chips?

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:23:11 (permalink)
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    Well the fact that there will be some cards that won't be stable at this new memory speeds probably means no, EVGA should have have released a new version with the new memory to avoid these issues.  I was able to overclock my GTX 1080 FTW ACX memory to 11gbs but I did not dare to test it in games for obvious reasons.  I got one last July so it may die early do to a faulty VRMs, I did do the bios and thermal pads fix though.  Perhaps I should pay for an ICX upgrade for the extra cooling and this new 11gbs memory, plus the option to step up to a Ti?


    indeed almost all old 1080s with native 1.35v 10gbps gddr5x micron vram chip can overclock to 11gpbs.
    but the new 1080 now comes with 11gbps 1.35v native vram chip, which means (and shown by guru3d latest review) these new 1080 vram can further oc to 12gpbs which your old 1080 can never be achieved to such high level. 
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:24:29 (permalink)
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    Here's another thought.
     
    Since they only made this BIOS update available to the iCX cards, they must have different memory chips. Otherwise they would release a similar BIOS update for all the other 1080s in the line. Why are the iCX cards the only ones to get the bump in speed if all the other 1080s have the same RAM chips?


    that may imply evga has been using new micron 11gbps native vram chip on icx...
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:27:45 (permalink)
    Before/after test result on Superposition, 1080P High Setting, 1080 FTW2. Also added to OP.
     

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:33:56 (permalink)
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    Before/after test result on Superposition, 1080P High Setting, 1080 FTW2. Also added to OP.
     


    would you mind to clarify why only sc2 and ftw2 are available in this bios update?
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:36:20 (permalink)
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    Here's another thought.
     
    Since they only made this BIOS update available to the iCX cards, they must have different memory chips. Otherwise they would release a similar BIOS update for all the other 1080s in the line. Why are the iCX cards the only ones to get the bump in speed if all the other 1080s have the same RAM chips?


    that may imply evga has been using new micron 11gbps native vram chip on icx...


    they are not Google the PCB of each card they have different model #s on the mem 1080 ftw and ftw2 both have same memory 1080ti and titan Xp have 2nd Gen GDDR5X which are different model #
     
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:37:29 (permalink)
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    Before/after test result on Superposition, 1080P High Setting, 1080 FTW2. Also added to OP.
     


    would you mind to clarify why only sc2 and ftw2 are available in this bios update?


    for 1 they have better cooling of the mem dont you remember the big reason they made the ICX 
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:42:16 (permalink)
    Why assume only 2nd generally gddr5x can hit 11Ghz. Maybe nvidia tweaked the memory controller to enable 11Ghz and the newer part number are just prevalidated.

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:42:30 (permalink)
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    Before/after test result on Superposition, 1080P High Setting, 1080 FTW2. Also added to OP.
     


    would you mind to clarify why only sc2 and ftw2 are available in this bios update?


    for 1 they have better cooling of the mem dont you remember the big reason they made the ICX 


    as far as i know, evga has never admitted their responsibilty on the vram thermal pad thickness issue
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:46:47 (permalink)
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    Here's another thought.
     
    Since they only made this BIOS update available to the iCX cards, they must have different memory chips. Otherwise they would release a similar BIOS update for all the other 1080s in the line. Why are the iCX cards the only ones to get the bump in speed if all the other 1080s have the same RAM chips?


    that may imply evga has been using new micron 11gbps native vram chip on icx...


    they are not Google the PCB of each card they have different model #s on the mem 1080 ftw and ftw2 both have same memory 1080ti and titan Xp have 2nd Gen GDDR5X which are different model #
     


    i didnt follow this, could you show me some photos or reviews' links?
     
    no, 1080ti is using native 11gbps vram chip while TTXp are using 12g native vram chip
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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:53:29 (permalink)
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    Before/after test result on Superposition, 1080P High Setting, 1080 FTW2. Also added to OP.
     


    would you mind to clarify why only sc2 and ftw2 are available in this bios update?


    for 1 they have better cooling of the mem dont you remember the big reason they made the ICX 


    as far as i know, evga has never admitted their responsibilty on the vram thermal pad thickness issue

    I'm sure you're juust confused.
    EVGA did accept responsibility for the high vrm temps. Even to the point of offering a free RMA to apply the thermal pads. They did confirm that the temps were still within margin of operation but decided to offer a way to reduce them anyway. They then went and accelerated the development of iCX system to prevent future high temps of the VRM and Memory.

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    Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 and SC2 – OPTIONAL 11GHz BIOS Update Available Now 2017/04/20 09:55:43 (permalink)
    titan XP

    1080ti

     

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