WMcCravey
"Game with safety and piece of mind"
So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?

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Forgeborn
IMHO the best case scenario we can hope for is:
 
1: EVGA release the cooler like an upgrade kit such as the Hybrid cooler kit.
 
2: EVGA provide this new kit at no cost (shipping and taxes extra - like the PowerLink) to registered owners of the current FTW cards (1080 AND 1070) and offer them the choice to RMA for the new cooler - just like the "Optional" thermal pad fix.
 
But I doubt that anything like this will happen since they didn't even offer a discount coupon for the Hybrid kit to 1070/1080 owners after all this thermal fiasco so... Does anyone know if they did something like this ^^ for the 970 FTW "1" owners when they release the "FTW 2"? If they didn't then count on the same treatment for this generation.

 
It looks to me like moving forward all EVGA will have to offer over other brands is good customer service if/when you need to RMA. No value to be had at all in buying anything non-reference from EVGA if this is the way they are going to go about their business.
 
And I'd just like to address the people suggesting others be contented with what they have and realize that "newer and better" stuff is released the moment you buy your current gear.
You have a good point. Here's my analogy of this situation, to a car (we all love these, don't deny it):
 
 
I wonder what people would do if Dodge released a 2016 Challenger that overheated whenever anyone took it to the track or gunned it onto the highway or up a steep incline, just like all the promos for the car showed. And they released an "optional" new "coolant" that people could order and install for free or call the dealer and have them pick-up the car, do the mod and return it for free. Even though it is not required in any way, shape or form, they do it for you because they care about your feelings.
 
Then a couple of months into production they stop making the 2016(version.1) Challengers with that coolant solution and only make a new one (2016 version.2) that is obviously better (and touted as such) then the previous "version". Going so far as to specifically mention the required and improved cooling solution as the "new" main selling point of this "remastered" 2016 model. You think anyone with a "version.1" is going to be happy? 
 
Yeah people are upset because something newer and better came out and not because a faulty product (the ACX 3.0 coolers are the defective products) has been discontinued and replacements are not yet being offered to customers with said defective products.
 
And if anyone wants to say that ACX 3.0 is not defective, then why is it getting replaced half-way through it's first production cycle? What part of that am I not understanding?

Forgeborn
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And if anyone wants to say that ACX 3.0 is not defective, then why is it getting replaced half-way through it's first production cycle? What part of that am I not understanding?

Forgeborn
 
 
I think you need to read my post and not remember the debates and arguments you've had with others.  I didn't repeat any misinformation. I didn't mention that useless German Tom's Hardware article.
I'll say it, as I've said it many times before - you're having an old discussion you had with someone else. Read my post.

arestavo

Forgeborn
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And if anyone wants to say that ACX 3.0 is not defective, then why is it getting replaced half-way through it's first production cycle? What part of that am I not understanding?

Forgeborn
 
 
I think you need to read my post and not remember the debates and arguments you've had with others.  I didn't repeat any misinformation. I didn't mention that useless German Tom's Hardware article.
I'll say it, as I've said it many times before - you're having an old discussion you had with someone else. Read my post.

Misinformation is still misinformation. It's not being replaced, and if you have a source that says that it is then do share!

hapkiman
If in fact there were no "real" issues with the original FTW's, and the thermal mods were just given as an option (as EVGA claims), then why in the world would EVGA make a new improved version of the exact same card?  Has this ever happened before?   I cannot find an instance in which it has. 

madhankumar388
I dont feel good about buying a 1070 FTW ACX 3.0 , If EVGA Dose not give this cooler or GPU as free RMA to current customers , I am just going to return mine for refund as all resellers are offering extended returns . I will wait till the last week of my return end date , if EVGA dose not offer a solution i will just return my GPU . This was my first EVGA purchase propably will be my last ...

Forgeborn
 
I wonder what people would do if Dodge released a 2016 Challenger that overheated whenever anyone took it to the track or gunned it onto the highway or up a steep incline, just like all the promos for the car showed. And they released an "optional" new "coolant" that people could order and install for free or call the dealer and have them pick-up the car, do the mod and return it for free. Even though it is not required in any way, shape or form, they do it for you because they care about your feelings.
 
Then a couple of months into production they stop making the 2016(version.1) Challengers with that coolant solution and only make a new one (2016 version.2) that is obviously better (and touted as such) then the previous "version". Going so far as to specifically mention the required and improved cooling solution as the "new" main selling point of this "remastered" 2016 model. You think anyone with a "version.1" is going to be happy? 

IchigoSoulReaper

Forgeborn
 
I wonder what people would do if Dodge released a 2016 Challenger that overheated whenever anyone took it to the track or gunned it onto the highway or up a steep incline, just like all the promos for the car showed. And they released an "optional" new "coolant" that people could order and install for free or call the dealer and have them pick-up the car, do the mod and return it for free. Even though it is not required in any way, shape or form, they do it for you because they care about your feelings.
 
Then a couple of months into production they stop making the 2016(version.1) Challengers with that coolant solution and only make a new one (2016 version.2) that is obviously better (and touted as such) then the previous "version". Going so far as to specifically mention the required and improved cooling solution as the "new" main selling point of this "remastered" 2016 model. You think anyone with a "version.1" is going to be happy? 

You just described the situation with the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7) haha

DustoMan

arestavo

vsg28
The new ICX cooler is replacing the ACX 3.0 on all their cards, not just the FTW models.

Source?

Freeze Frame Here:
https://youtu.be/OHMKBusyUo8?t=372
The ICX cooler is on all the cards on the table:
Geoforce 1070 SC2
1070 FTW2
1080 FTW2

Forgeborn

Scarlet-Tech
So far everyone is assuming that the icx is something spectacular. What we actually know: the cooler is mounted to the pcb rather than having 4 screws around the gpu core holding the entire cooler on.

Peace of mind: your cooler won't cause your pcb to sag.. thats all we know at this time.

Actually we know that something about it makes it safer. Or at least that's what the marketing wants us to "know/believe" : "GAME WITH SAFETY AND PEACE OF MIND". That is implying that not having the ICX cooler is not as safe.
 
I don't know if it is safer or not. I do know that the timing and direction/wording of the marketing is EXTREMELY POOR at best and reveals EVGA may be skirting an issue at worst.
 
Or are they maybe implying that having a slightly sagging PCB is unsafe?