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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/08 10:44:51 (permalink)
Did you resolve the problem finally? Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/09 16:54:48 (permalink)
Anyone else with the card should be able to dump their vbios and give it to you. Someone must have one...
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/09 18:49:29 (permalink)
I took a BIOS dump of my EVGA GTX 1080 FE (08G-P4-6180-KR) card via GPU-Z.0.8.9 and also using nvflash 5.292.0 downloaded from here: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5915#bios
 
Both files came out to be the same. 
Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2vbnggrx1iy2ag8/EVGA_GTX1080_FE.rom?dl=0
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/09 21:54:39 (permalink)
Actually I just remembered that I think you can change this via softstraps and without a vbios reflash. If you have nvflash there is an option to write a new vendor ID IIRC. It's been a while since I looked at this (and how it works tends to change with some generations) but I'm pretty sure you can just slap the correct ID in there.

Of course, ignore any instructions that say it has anything to do with your OS and assume that person has no idea what they're talking about.

In fact you might even *have* to do this in order for nvflash to flash your card, as it might reject the vbios file saying it can't find a valid device (unless you use the force flag). But that might only be the case for device ID, not sure.
post edited by jtg01 - 2016/07/09 21:57:53
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/09 23:25:17 (permalink)
I wouldn't take a chance of bricking the gpu. There could be a problem with the bios chip which could cause boot problems later in the cards life. Best and safest solution is to Rma that new EVGA gpu.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/10 03:48:38 (permalink)
I have the same problem with a MSI GTX 1070, I returned it and Bought Gigabyte, I hope the problem not appears with the new card.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/17 12:37:36 (permalink)
i also just installed my new GTX 1070 SC Gaming card...and of course I have the same issue...
error on boot displays... " PXE-E01  Vendor and Device IDs do not match!"
 
am I to understand that I will have to ship this back and get a damn replacement because someone screwed up and didn't flash the bios correctly? There are many instances of this error scattered all over the internet. There must be an easier way for EVGA to get this fixed without all the BS.
Also, is this error just annoying, or are there performance issues because of it? I so not want my system down and out for many weeks if I have to send this card back.... EVGA Please advise .

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/17 12:45:44 (permalink)
rogue071 which is your motherboard?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 16:31:41 (permalink)
I have the same problem (subvendor is undefined, and PrecisionXOC doesn't recognize it). GTX 1080 FTW. I RMA'd it. And the new one HAS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM! What do I do? 
 
Luckily my motherboard doesn't seem to care.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 17:08:36 (permalink)
Lando13...what MOBO are you using?? I have the same issue with my GTX 1070 FTW and an ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 18:24:27 (permalink)
ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+  But I'm using the ASUS ROG Crosshair V bios. It couldn't seriously be due to that could it???
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 18:30:25 (permalink)
Why not that? 2 cards same problem, surely they check that during testing. It's the one common denominator at this point. Something about the way the bios is reporting the vendor id doesn't seem to be working properly.


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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 18:45:38 (permalink)
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ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+  But I'm using the ASUS ROG Crosshair V bios. It couldn't seriously be due to that could it???

You're using a bios from another board? Not a very smart idea.
post edited by Sajin - 2016/07/20 18:48:02
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 19:08:33 (permalink)
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Why not that? 2 cards same problem, surely they check that during testing. It's the one common denominator at this point. Something about the way the bios is reporting the vendor id doesn't seem to be working properly.



As far as I can tell, not a single user with a 1070 FTW or a 1080 FTW actually has the correct subvendor listed. I'm seeing people all over the place on different forums complaining. For most people though, it's not an issue (they won't even notice).
 
Sajin
You're using a bios from another board? Not a very smart idea.



The bios on the two are identical is seems. They just didn't push out an update for mine, so I took the one from the Crosshair. Works perfectly.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 19:37:21 (permalink)
Would EVGA RMA center even see that a different VBIOS is used if the Vbios matches the old one?

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 19:54:29 (permalink)
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Would EVGA RMA center even see that a different VBIOS is used if the Vbios matches the old one?


Not the vbios... the motherboard BIOS. It's an approved upgrade path. I didn't break any warranties.
 
Anyway... they want me to do another RMA. They said that it's the RMA department's fault. Weird.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 20:14:35 (permalink)
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Would EVGA RMA center even see that a different VBIOS is used if the Vbios matches the old one?


Not the vbios... the motherboard BIOS. It's an approved upgrade path. I didn't break any warranties.
 
Anyway... they want me to do another RMA. They said that it's the RMA department's fault. Weird.


oh my mistake, I read that wrong.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 21:32:41 (permalink)
@lando13

I'm thinking there is something up with the asus motherboard bios that is causing this issue.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 22:10:25 (permalink)
Maybe this MOBO/BIOS combination actually checks to see if the PCI Vendor and Device ID's match and throws a warning if they don't??
Maybe newer motherboards don't bother.... That doesn't answer the question why some 1070's and 1080's have a  Subvendor ID that says "Undefined (0000)
I haven't had a chance to swap out my GTX1070 into another motherboard yet.....
BUT I have noticed that occasionally when windows loads, the screen goes black. If I reboot, the error message appears, Bios screen runs and Win 10 loads normally.
I had no problems whatsoever with the two EVGA GTX 970's I was running in SLI, so I am thinking there is some issue with the card itself.
Has anyone else without an ASUS Formula V checked GPUZ to see if the Subvendor ID says "Undefined (0000)???
Does the correct subvendor code show for other EVGA GPU's? (EVGA 3842)
I have also not seen an explanation from EVGA as to  why cards with this "Undefined (0000)" issue show up as unidentified cards when EVGA Precision is loaded....
 
There is more to this I think... I'm not giving up yet

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/20 22:44:59 (permalink)
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Maybe this MOBO/BIOS combination actually checks to see if the PCI Vendor and Device ID's match and throws a warning if they don't??
Maybe newer motherboards don't bother.... That doesn't answer the question why some 1070's and 1080's have a  Subvendor ID that says "Undefined (0000)
I haven't had a chance to swap out my GTX1070 into another motherboard yet.....
BUT I have noticed that occasionally when windows loads, the screen goes black. If I reboot, the error message appears, Bios screen runs and Win 10 loads normally.
I had no problems whatsoever with the two EVGA GTX 970's I was running in SLI, so I am thinking there is some issue with the card itself.
Has anyone else without an ASUS Formula V checked GPUZ to see if the Subvendor ID says "Undefined (0000)???
Does the correct subvendor code show for other EVGA GPU's? (EVGA 3842)
I have also not seen an explanation from EVGA as to  why cards with this "Undefined (0000)" issue show up as unidentified cards when EVGA Precision is loaded....
 
There is more to this I think... I'm not giving up yet




I found someone online that had an Intel motherboard with a FTW 10 series. The Subvendor was showing up correctly. 

It could be PCI Express 3.0 vs. PCI Express 2.0. FX series AMD motherboards are 2.0.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/21 00:50:16 (permalink)
The user post creator told he put your card in other machine (Intel platform) and this message appears too.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/21 08:51:38 (permalink)
@lando and others:
 
1) If the issue follows the card = bad card. RMAs sometimes end up returning the same card back as 'no trouble found' sometimes without mentioning this to customer -- is the serial number different?
 
2) change BIOS on motherboard to whatever the default is, re-test. If problem is still there, then you know the card is (most likely) the issue
 
3) Reflashing the original video card BIOS is not hard provided as an attempt to fix you have the original BIOS -- use techpowerup's vga bios database for that. If the system is stable, and you can read the BIOS with no issue via nvflash, there's no qualms about reflashing the BIOS. (Note I am assuming card has a single BIOS chip, if it has dual BIOS, there might be a way to flash both and/or to switch between them depending on card manufacturer. I don't have one to test, so I am unsure of how dual BIOS is implemented on video cards.
 
4) If nothing fixes it, most likely it is a BIOS incompatibility issue with your motherboard and (specific?) card. One last thing to try is to re-install O/S and/or convert to UEFI from BIOS/CSM mode or vice-versa to see if the problem goes away.
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/23 07:02:20 (permalink)
I called EVGA Tech support on Thursday (7/21/16). The Rep acknowledged that there is an issue with the Pascal series boards and some AMD motherboards. He issued me an Advanced RMA and told me that they would replace my card with one that was checked by EVGA before it shipped and showed the EVGA subvendor info in the card BIOS. I went thru the procedure and waited for my replacement to be shipped. The next day when I checked my "pending RMA's" on the EVGA site, my RMA had disappeared. SO... I called Tech support again to find out what was going on. This Rep said replacing the card would not fix the problem and EVGA was working on a BIOS fix. So..there is a compatibility issue with the Pascal series and some AMD motherboards. I asked why my RMA was cancelled and no one told me.. he apologized.
 

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/23 07:12:30 (permalink)
I saw in other forum a one user with Intel platform and the same problem and Gpu-Z detected correctly the subvendor name, I don´t know if the real problem is this, the brand of the videocard is not Evga.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/25 21:14:09 (permalink)
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rogue071 which is your motherboard?


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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/26 10:55:14 (permalink)
I have the earlier version of the M5A99X board with the last manufacturer BIOS for the board. Windows, GPU-Z and Linux show a subvendor ID of 0000 for the video function on my 1080 FTW. The audio function does show the correct subvendor ID.
 

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/26 11:41:11 (permalink)
This is my GPU-Z.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/28 20:54:19 (permalink)
OK...so I verified with EVGA that the "PXE-E01 PCI Vendor and device ID's Don't Match" error message is valid for some AMD motherboards and Nvidia is working on the issue.
At some point, they will issue a BIOS update for the 1070 and 1080 cards. No word on when the Pascal BIOS update will come though.
so... not wanting to wait... I RMA'd my GTX 1070 FTW and bought an EVGA GTX 980Ti FTW instead...
The 980Ti works fine.. no errors...the 980Ti's are on sale now as well.
Happy with my 980 and at some point I can step up to a 1080...WHEN they become available and the issue is resolved.
Keep an eye on the Forum or in contact with EVGA Tech Support to find out when.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2016/07/29 12:32:46 (permalink)
so do we know if this error actually affects performance at all or is it just a warning we can ignore and not care about??

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FE boot error that follows card 2019/01/21 03:34:43 (permalink)
i think i found the real cause of message...  [ offer me a 911 992 4s , please nvidia & evga ... [FTA: ForTheAdd] ]
that is normal... and come from Nvidia right doing his gfx...
if you read about cards , they do HDMI 2.0b , in HDMI 1.4 they added the network support : https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hdmi_1_4_faq.aspx
https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hdmi_1_4_faq.aspx#8
 
so the boot system check if the cable is "tcp/ip connected" or so...like an eprom ...  that is very bad news for some manufacturers like realtek... the network by hdmi will be nice with cable-tv being a usual input of pc graphic cards...for 2020...and avatars ;'] 
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