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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 10:56:43 (permalink)
    So... what exactly are these new cards supposed to bring to the aging 200 series lineup this late in the game?? I understood the purpose of the 210's % 220's, but what are thses new 240's supposed to bring to the table?
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 10:59:41 (permalink)
    ZachA

    So... what exactly are these new cards supposed to bring to the aging 200 series lineup this late in the game?? I understood the purpose of the 210's, but what are thses supposed to bring to the table?


    +1..Also considering they don't support SLI..what market is this card geared towards.

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 11:13:01 (permalink)
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    +1..Also considering they don't support SLI..what market is this card geared towards.


    mid-level OEM PCs maybe?



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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 11:32:28 (permalink)
    wow SO POWERFUL! I'm going to step-up my 285.

     

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 12:54:28 (permalink)
    It has DX10.1 support, HDMI 1.3a, works great as a PhysX card for those of you with higher end cards.

    Performance wise it is between a 9600GT and 9800GT.


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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 13:23:13 (permalink)
    when can we get one?



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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 13:29:04 (permalink)
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    It has DX10.1 support, HDMI 1.3a, works great as a PhysX card for those of you with higher end cards.

    Performance wise it is between a 9600GT and 9800GT.


    How would this compare to the GTS 250 as a dedicated PhysX card?  I recognize that the GTS 250 is more powerful, but as a PhysX card, is the GTS 250 going to make a big difference.  I have 2 GTX 280 SSC's and the X58 SLI vanilla board.  I currently have the second 280 in the third slot to allow for lower temps.  I have been thinking of getting a PhysX card, but I think with the GTS 250, I would have all three cards sandwiched together.  It looks like I could slip the GT 240 in the middle slot with the SLI bridge crossing over and still a little breathing room.  Would that work?

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 13:36:53 (permalink)
    Aaah, DDR5...GT3 must just be around the corner!

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 13:36:58 (permalink)
    Who's gonna buy this?

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 14:25:04 (permalink)
    ^I will be building a home theater/DVR PC and need to check into parts, maybe this card would be good?

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 15:43:22 (permalink)
    I wanted to know if Jacob or some other product manager at EVGA could address this question.

    I don't seem to understand what the difference is between EVGA GeForce GT 240 models 512-P3-1240 and 512-P3-1241.



    Product Page - EVGA GeForce GT 240 512-P3-1240

    Product Page - EVGA GeForce GT 240 512-P3-1241


    Both of them seem to have equal clock frequency specifications and price tags, although the only noticeable difference is that the PCBs differ in color. I double checked, and both of them also feature an HDMI output and 128-bit GDDR5 memory.

    By the way, the 512-P3-1241 memory clock speed listed on the Product Overview page (3402MHz) is inconsistent with the PDF spec sheet (3400MHz).


    I'm considering to purchase one of these as a standalone PhysX card but the model numbers need some clarification. Thanks in advance.

    post edited by AuDioFreaK39 - 2009/11/17 17:54:06
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 17:19:32 (permalink)
    I think eVGA should do all their PCB's in black, it just looks way better than the standard green

                                   
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 17:46:24 (permalink)
    mm...i see the two card have different pbc colors and the green pcb color one has like an audio conection..maybe for hdmi sound or something i don't know..but they're not the same.

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 18:59:12 (permalink)
    AuDioFreaK39

    I wanted to know if Jacob or some other product manager at EVGA could address this question.

    I don't seem to understand what the difference is between EVGA GeForce GT 240 models 512-P3-1240 and 512-P3-1241.



    Product Page - EVGA GeForce GT 240 512-P3-1240

    Product Page - EVGA GeForce GT 240 512-P3-1241


    Both of them seem to have equal clock frequency specifications and price tags, although the only noticeable difference is that the PCBs differ in color. I double checked, and both of them also feature an HDMI output and 128-bit GDDR5 memory.

    By the way, the 512-P3-1241 memory clock speed listed on the Product Overview page (3402MHz) is inconsistent with the PDF spec sheet (3400MHz).


    I'm considering to purchase one of these as a standalone PhysX card but the model numbers need some clarification. Thanks in advance.


    DUHHHHH. Sheesh, ones black, and perfectly accompanies a classified X58 board.
    Also, it is likely a test of the GDDR5 that is coming out so soon. Perfect opportunity, aging 200 series (not really, hope it works for years to come), recession, budget card, hdmi capabilities. Personally, here is what it means to me...
    Media center card with DDR5 test kit.
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/17 19:18:05 (permalink)
    Awesome I might have to throw one in my Parents rig since there is no extra power dongle needed.


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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 05:34:56 (permalink)
    This looks like a replacement for 8800GT/9800GT which i am in the market for a card like that.. is there any benchmarks out yet? also watch your prices as it's getting to way to close to the HD5750 which as way more to offer..


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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 13:23:09 (permalink)
    Honestly, I think if EVGA would stop putting out these "in between" cards that they most likely aren't going to sell enough to even break even on the cost to produce, they could lower the cost of the higher end cards, because they wouldn't have to keep making up the difference. This is the 4th or 5th card that is "right around the same thing as this or that card" that they have put out in the last 6 or 8 months and something tells me they haven't really made a profit on them. I could be wrong on that, but I just don't see that many of these things selling. That lack of sales drives the cost of the higher end cards up to cover the profit loss on the lower stuff. Do we really need 10 reference cards in each series, along with the OC'd versions? Somehow I'm stuck believing that those of us who purchase cards near the upper end of the spectrum are, in a roundabout way, paying for these lower cards lack of revenue.

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 14:11:45 (permalink)
    AuDioFreaK39

    I wanted to know if Jacob or some other product manager at EVGA could address this question.

    I don't seem to understand what the difference is between EVGA GeForce GT 240 models 512-P3-1240 and 512-P3-1241.

    Both of them seem to have equal clock frequency specifications and price tags, although the only noticeable difference is that the PCBs differ in color. I double checked, and both of them also feature an HDMI output and 128-bit GDDR5 memory.

    By the way, the 512-P3-1241 memory clock speed listed on the Product Overview page (3402MHz) is inconsistent with the PDF spec sheet (3400MHz).


    I'm considering to purchase one of these as a standalone PhysX card but the model numbers need some clarification. Thanks in advance.


    The difference is the PCB Color



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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 14:31:53 (permalink)
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    Honestly, I think if EVGA would stop putting out these "in between" cards that they most likely aren't going to sell enough to even break even on the cost to produce, they could lower the cost of the higher end cards, because they wouldn't have to keep making up the difference. This is the 4th or 5th card that is "right around the same thing as this or that card" that they have put out in the last 6 or 8 months and something tells me they haven't really made a profit on them. I could be wrong on that, but I just don't see that many of these things selling. That lack of sales drives the cost of the higher end cards up to cover the profit loss on the lower stuff. Do we really need 10 reference cards in each series, along with the OC'd versions? Somehow I'm stuck believing that those of us who purchase cards near the upper end of the spectrum are, in a roundabout way, paying for these lower cards lack of revenue.


    I know where your coming from for sure. Keep in mind that a business runs with many different revenue streams that can and do overlap from time to time.

    This looks to be one of those times. I am willing to guess these are actually overflow, or tactical examples of.....
    • Dell an HP for example, need cheap, but up-to-date parts for those looking to purchase mainstream systems at a discounted rate. These cards are exactly what you would find in that type system.... Like a drop down.... Each card costing $25-75 more than the first.... 
    • This creates a company to guess on the need for manufacturing and supply orders. Like anything else, you get discounts for volume. So EVGA and BFG for example, could be bundled in that guess.
    • In the end this gives companies like EVGA yet another part in the supply chain to fill needs of a wider audience....
    And really, unless you are a gamer or bench runner, these cards fit any "Web" surfer bill and movie watcher. Priced good too.... I bet these find their way into a lot of "Home and Small Business" use....

     
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 14:38:59 (permalink)
    not planning to buy this

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 14:48:42 (permalink)
    I understand that, Afterburner, but my thing is, if you're going to create a card that, performance wise, is between these two cards, why not just put one of those cards in the system? Why create something new that isn't really "better" it's just "newer?" Doing this can't be profitable. It may not necessarily be a loss of revenue, but I just don't see how it can produce any, especially with the economy being in the state of turmoil everyone says it's in. It would make far better fiscal sense to use up the slightly older, faster cards than create new ones and have a surplus of both older and newer models. That's my issue and if it were done, I have to believe the savings could be passed on to the consumer, which would in turn make the higher end more appealing. That appeal would lead to more sales of current inventory and more money in the bank for EVGA. Maybe I'm wrong and have no idea what I'm talking about, which would validate my career choice NOT being in business, but it really seems to make more sense to me my way than what's being done.

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/18 15:21:44 (permalink)
    The SC edition is nice :D
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 03:40:57 (permalink)
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    It has DX10.1 support, HDMI 1.3a, works great as a PhysX card for those of you with higher end cards.

    Performance wise it is between a 9600GT and 9800GT.


    So it costs more then a 9800gt and preforms worse. Sweet ill take 2.

    I have a lot of respect for EVGA as a company my last 6 video cards are evga.

    2 8800gts
    2 9800gt
    2 280gtx

    But i have to say im a little baffled by these cards. I could understand making say 1 model for like HTPC's or something but to continue the line seems odd.

    I did like the idea of a 275 with a 250 built in for phsyx but i think it came out far too late.

     

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 07:36:47 (permalink)
    TOUGH, TOUGH SALE !!!   The 240 has too much competition and very little functionality to establish a market of it's own !

    1)  There are too many sub $100 cards that perform equally if not better than the 240.   Cards from ATI like the 4670 and older Nvidia models like the 9600 GS will give this card a run for it's money.


    2)  Lack of DX11 support will shy away new buyers.   If you're looking at today's market for a new low to mid-range card, then why in the world would you buy a card that does not support future technologies.   Although there is no software out there YET to really take advantage of new functionality in DX11, the point here is to move forward, not spend more money to look back.

    3)
    Finally, introductory price is too close to mid-range cards that will out perform this card by a lot.   For example, the 240 is been sold between $100 and $130 right now (The price should come down in the next few months),  BUT as of TODAY, you have the 9800 model which outperforms the 240 by a lot and can be had with just $120.  Add another $15 to $20 and you're getting closer to the 260 which can seriously outperform not 1, but probably 2 or possibly even 3  240s (if SLI was allowed, because even that functionality is out the table for the 240).


    Final thoughts,

    Ok, so by now you've realized  that the 240 is not the low-end gaming card that's worth buying, but maybe you're in the market for an HTPC  (Home Theater PC) card.  Well, then you're not concerned with gaming performance as much as power consumption and silent operation.  Well, the 240 has proven to use less power than some of it's competition but, where is the fan-less version of this card?  Although recent reviews have showed that even with a fan the 240 is very silent, but ...  there is no way it can be beat a FAN-LESS card ! 


    GOOD LUCK WITH THIS ONE NVIDIA.






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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 09:01:40 (permalink)
    My view of what a HTPC is may be different but it should game at 1900 x 1080p as a HTPC should be the total package in my book with Blu-Ray support.. so can this card handle MW 2 / COD 4-5/Far Cry 2 etc.. at 1900X 1080...


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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 10:19:19 (permalink)
    When you think of an efficient HTPC that's both quiet and somewhat powerful, the 240 does NOT come to mind as the preferable choice.   There are a few variables that you have to deal with when considering an HTPC setup.

    1)  How big is case going to be?   ( This will determine what kind of power supply will go with this case and therefore what kind of video card you'll be able to use).   If your choice like mine is a small quiet case like Shuttle XPC, then the option for a huge power hungry card is not there.   I have to choose the BEST video card that can run with a 300w PS.  That's a difficult choice to make.  The 240 is a good candidate but not the best in my opinion.  There you have the 9500, ATI's 4670, 4650, and 8430 all in the same line-up.  All of them low power video cards with somewhat equal performance as the 240 and sometimes even better cooling solution.

    So for your question... it really doesn't matter if you have a standard ATX sizes case.  You have a lot more options for your 1900 x 1080p gaming.  You can go with a fan-less 9800 that will cost you less than the 240 and performs better (if you have the juice to run it).   On top of that is QUIET ...  If you're limited in space, then you'll be limited in power ( unless you use a dedicated VGA Power Supply in one of your 5 1/4 slots ), then the choices are few.


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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 10:23:04 (permalink)
    Hello adpjock:
    It seems to me that though your logic makes sense you are forgetting one critical thing about this new card.  Yes, its expected performance is at or near the 9800 GT, but this card can be put into virtually any PC with a slot that can hold the card and it requires no additional power above what the card can draw from the PCI-e bus.  That means it fits a niche no other card fits—the ability to handle top-end graphics without adding a new power supply to seal the deal.
     
    All of the cards you were comparing this card to require at least a 400 watt PS with extra connectors for supplying the power needs of the card.
     
    This card requires no additional power.  Therefore, this is a remarkable improvement for PC user that bought a Factory built PC that now needs a better graphics card to run programs like Adobe CS4 Master Collection Suite products, not to mention the latest in games.
     
    We have been through the process of having to upgrate the Graphics card when Adobe upgraded their software to the CS4 system.  We ended up having to replace the entire system with a new custom build state of the art system because the computer we were working with could not handle the upgrades required.
     
    In other words, using your own logic; this card (marketed correctly) fills a niche that can instantly cause more current PC users with dated PC systems needing to upgrade but not wanting (or having the financial ability) to upgrade like they would like to; which market is, quite frankly, significantly larger that all of the top end gamers put together.  That means that if this card is marketed correctly it can steal that market and accordingly provide more actual revenue than the high-end GPU card market can and that can effectively provide sufficient fund to cause a less expensive high-end card cost.
     
    Of course, it is not likely that a company will charge less that the market will bear because that is the nature of business.  The truly high end graphics cards are not the GTX 275, 285 and 295 cards; rather, they are the Quadros and the Tesla cards costing thousands more that the top end gamer cards.
     
    Our Avid software requires supercomputer capability the is only available using at least 2 Quadro cards in SLI series.  But, that level of graphics ability is not even available from EVGA (so far as we know).
     
    Still, we can see that producing a GPU replacement card that can: 
    1. Swap out the factory installed graphics card; 
    2.  Needs no additional power supply or other upgrade; 
    3.  Handles the latest game and movie demands for the home user that already owns a PC
     Truly hits a market niche that has not been properly tapped since the advent of developing high end graphic cards that require additional power beyond that which is available through the card bus.
     
    We will buy this card for our older systems for just those reasons.  We have four older systems that can all use this upgrade. 
    post edited by Tnias - 2009/11/19 10:50:23
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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/19 15:50:36 (permalink)
    Tnias

      Truly hits a market niche that has not been properly tapped since the advent of developing high end graphic cards that require additional power beyond that which is available through the card bus.
     
    We will buy this card for our older systems for just those reasons.  We have four older systems that can all use this upgrade. 


    I agree with most of the points you made and i like the idea of having one of these cards but to make a series off them seems rather silly and a waste or resources.

    That niche was filled by the 9600gt low power which is what i planned to get for my HTPC but was discontinued (seemingly for these cards). Also another retailer is making 9800gt low power for $90.

    You can get this card for $130ish at newegg or a evga 9800gt  for $100 at newegg. You can stick a 9800gt in a very low end system on a low end psu and it will be fine. I remember running them in 300watt hp psu's lol.

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    Re:EVGA GT 240 Released! 2009/11/20 01:47:11 (permalink)
    I would be interested buying GT240 if there was a edition with highher clocks like 650 core, 4200 memory and 1500 shaders.
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