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EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue?

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Re: EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue? 2021/02/07 09:38:20 (permalink)
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in iracing, capping the FPS will get the power draw down too
I ran a 850mv 1850hz undervolt in iracing at the Cup race in Kentucky last night as was pinned at 144 fps and was only pulling 265w (7680x1440) surround on .
I would give it a try: open Afterburner and hit reset button
Go to clock frequency button and drag it down -300 
then hit Ctrl F to open frequency curve then  anywhere between 835-975 pick a voltage you want to run the gpu at , say select 875 and then click and drag the frequency back up to a normal boost clock rate 1830 hit apply then you will see the line go straight across, I then give it a +200 on the memory slider becuase its free speed on almost all of these cards, open up your favorite stress test or open up Kombustor, and see if its stable, you should be at least -100 watts less 


It sounds like you have a similar setup to me for iracing. I run 7680x1440p as well. I do cap FPS also. I will give your advice a try as well. I took Dabadgers advice on the undervolt. @ 100% power limit during a 3DMark Timespy stress it hovered around 350-360watts and 1815mhz clock speed. Didnt crash the PC. I havent tested in game as my weekends are busy for me to get on my rig. i will do some more testing once the PSU shows up on Friday. 


Yea I think this is the sweet spot for me and Iracing, its 850mv and 1840hz with +200mem
 Last night ; Full field class A Cup race open setup 100 laps 144fps steady, I still saw a couple of dips to 136 fps in a couple places for a second or two but the temps are way down and the only thing heating up was the wheel base , it was about 264-287w TPD running GPUz in the background for the entire race.
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Re: EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue? 2021/02/09 15:52:30 (permalink)
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So I somehow missed this post until just now and actually answered him in PM, but I'm going to repost it here because the reasons I think it's done is actually a pretty important one, depending on what kind of undervolt you're running:
 
It depends on the type of undervolt you're going for.  If you're going for super-low voltage with semi-stock clocks, the -60 part makes sure the entire curve is "under" what you're going to set clocks wise.
If you're aiming for something more "up there" like 2040MHz @ 1000mV on a 3090 for example, you don't need to do that part I don't think, as the entire curve for the 3090 FTW3 is under 2040MHz.

Basically the negative offset at the start is to make sure your "curve" is flat AFTER the point you set, to minimize the weird behavior.  I still get Afterburner occasionally letting the clock go 15MHz over what I set, which when I'm really pushing it, can result in a crash, since, if 15MHz higher was stable, I'd be running it 15MHz higher. lol

For my card as an example, I have to do a slight negative offset to do 2100MHz @ 1025mV (one of my two very stable settings) because the top of my curve goes to 2115MHz otherwise, and that can cause it to step over what I have set.  If I'm testing my higher setting, which is going to be somewhere between 2145 @ 1050mV & 2160MHz @ 1068mV (basically stock voltage but with a nice OC), I don't need the negative offset, because the clock I'm setting is higher than the highest line of the curve.
 
- Hope that helps anyone that has questions about that, as that's my understanding of why it's done/when it should be done and when it shouldn't.


I am a bit confused here and maybe something is not right, I am not sure. 
 
So I have been doing some testing in the 2 main titles I play. iRacing and Assetto Corsa Competizione on triple 1440p monitors running @ 7680x1440p and wanted to compare to my 3080 XC3.  
The 3080 is getting similar FPS as the 3090 with the same in game settings in iRacing and actually the 3080 is getting slightly better at some instances. Also in iRacing there is a meter to measure GPU frame times and the 3080 is actually running a bit more headroom as well running the same exact settings. 
 
In ACC with the same settings the 3090 is doing about 10FPS more vs the 3080. Is there room for me to improve on this with the 3090 once I get my new PSU? I am running your undervolt recommendation and power limit @ 100% currently on the 3090. The 3080 is running on stock settings. 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue? 2021/02/09 15:54:33 (permalink)
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Yea I think this is the sweet spot for me and Iracing, its 850mv and 1840hz with +200mem
 Last night ; Full field class A Cup race open setup 100 laps 144fps steady, I still saw a couple of dips to 136 fps in a couple places for a second or two but the temps are way down and the only thing heating up was the wheel base , it was about 264-287w TPD running GPUz in the background for the entire race.




 
Can you PM me your ingame settings for iRacing? I have been tweaking my settings and so far like above my 3080 and 3090 results are about similar. I run road (which should be less demanding vs your Oval) and getting about 90-95 FPS sitting on grid @ Daytona Road. Also what processor do you have?
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Re: EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue? 2021/02/09 16:08:23 (permalink)
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So I somehow missed this post until just now and actually answered him in PM, but I'm going to repost it here because the reasons I think it's done is actually a pretty important one, depending on what kind of undervolt you're running:
 
It depends on the type of undervolt you're going for.  If you're going for super-low voltage with semi-stock clocks, the -60 part makes sure the entire curve is "under" what you're going to set clocks wise.
If you're aiming for something more "up there" like 2040MHz @ 1000mV on a 3090 for example, you don't need to do that part I don't think, as the entire curve for the 3090 FTW3 is under 2040MHz.

Basically the negative offset at the start is to make sure your "curve" is flat AFTER the point you set, to minimize the weird behavior.  I still get Afterburner occasionally letting the clock go 15MHz over what I set, which when I'm really pushing it, can result in a crash, since, if 15MHz higher was stable, I'd be running it 15MHz higher. lol

For my card as an example, I have to do a slight negative offset to do 2100MHz @ 1025mV (one of my two very stable settings) because the top of my curve goes to 2115MHz otherwise, and that can cause it to step over what I have set.  If I'm testing my higher setting, which is going to be somewhere between 2145 @ 1050mV & 2160MHz @ 1068mV (basically stock voltage but with a nice OC), I don't need the negative offset, because the clock I'm setting is higher than the highest line of the curve.
 
- Hope that helps anyone that has questions about that, as that's my understanding of why it's done/when it should be done and when it shouldn't.


I am a bit confused here and maybe something is not right, I am not sure. 
 
So I have been doing some testing in the 2 main titles I play. iRacing and Assetto Corsa Competizione on triple 1440p monitors running @ 7680x1440p and wanted to compare to my 3080 XC3.  
The 3080 is getting similar FPS as the 3090 with the same in game settings in iRacing and actually the 3080 is getting slightly better at some instances. Also in iRacing there is a meter to measure GPU frame times and the 3080 is actually running a bit more headroom as well running the same exact settings. 
 
In ACC with the same settings the 3090 is doing about 10FPS more vs the 3080. Is there room for me to improve on this with the 3090 once I get my new PSU? I am running your undervolt recommendation and power limit @ 100% currently on the 3090. The 3080 is running on stock settings. 




The undervolt/OC is just a starting point, feel free to play with it.  You can either go for nice clocks with good temps & power draw (which the 2040MHz @ 1025mV should give you if it's a 3090 non-Kingpin), or you can try to push it to the max.  The ideal behind that would be having a constant stock or near-stock voltage (unless you're hitting power limit, then it will throttle of course) with higher, flatter/more sustained clocks.
 
I don't play racing titles at all (except NFS & I haven't played those in a while) so I can't comment too much on how performance is in those titles.  I think the new PSU will probably give the 3090 better, cleaner power, and might indeed boost your performance with it though.  Hope so!

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Re: EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3090 pulling 440watts and shutting down the PC. PSU issue? 2021/02/09 16:24:42 (permalink)
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Yea I think this is the sweet spot for me and Iracing, its 850mv and 1840hz with +200mem
 Last night ; Full field class A Cup race open setup 100 laps 144fps steady, I still saw a couple of dips to 136 fps in a couple places for a second or two but the temps are way down and the only thing heating up was the wheel base , it was about 264-287w TPD running GPUz in the background for the entire race.




 
Can you PM me your ingame settings for iRacing? I have been tweaking my settings and so far like above my 3080 and 3090 results are about similar. I run road (which should be less demanding vs your Oval) and getting about 90-95 FPS sitting on grid @ Daytona Road. Also what processor do you have?


HI,  I think I can but hosting images atm is a pita, What I was doing is undervolting a profile with MSI afterburner along with Capping my FPS at 144, I got all the settings on except low detail on crowds and grandstands and no high detail in mirrors, I will got back to my other PC as I am watching the clash and see if I can give you more detail, I have a i9 9900K on Z390 32 GB 3200..
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