hawk269

awalleyeguy

Well I am not using a evga MB so updating evbot FW is impossible.
The evbot can adjust VPLL and VDDQ of the other voltages of the 580 classified, but not the vcore, or VDD.

Wait..what?  You need a eVGA MB in order to do a firmware update for the evBot?  I am glad I did not order one cause i dont have a eVGA mb.  As much as I love these cards, it seems like eVGA was not ready for prime time.  Yes, the cards are good and they run nice, but they were designed to be OC..but there is no way to do that right now.  It's like Ferrari selling you a new car with 12 cylinders, but after you "PAY" for it they tell you that only 6 of them are available until they finish working on the other 6. 

wow... lol evbot only updated on evga mobo... i dont even know what to say.

To update it, currently yes.
 
We are trying to see if there is a way to update it VIA NVAPI, otherwise if you have an EVBot and need it updated, contact me at jacobf@evga.com, or if you are planning on buying one, also contact me.

EVGA_JacobF

To update it, currently yes.

We are trying to see if there is a way to update it VIA NVAPI, otherwise if you have an EVBot and need it updated, contact me at jacobf@evga.com, or if you are planning on buying one, also contact me.

Jacob-
 
You and eVGA must understand the consumers point of view on this issue of no software being able to adjust the cards and now to here that you have to have a eVGA MB to update the evBot leaves one with no options...other than spend another $50.00 plus shipping and whatever is the fix.   Some of us have spent alot of money on these cards, especially when you buy 1 or more.
 
I really hope you guys/company have a way to take care of the consumer that spent the money with you guys.  Although I want an evBot, I should not have to spend even more money to do something that card was designed for. 
 
I have 6 registered GPU's with eVGA over the last year including the 2 Classys.  So it's not like I am a one time customer (this does not inlcude the 4 GPU's I had friends buy from you guys as well). 
 
At this point it is only fair that we are told when the software will come out, even a rough eta.  If it is going to be a while, I think I might send my cards back because I only have 30 (28 days now) to decide if I want to keep them and if I have no way to see what they can do in my configuration, what is the point of having them when "other" brands have software that works when you buy the cards.
 
Yes, I am upset, yes I am dissatisfied with the fact that we were not told any of this until "AFTER" most of us bought our cards.  A "warning" message should be posted on the product page and at the etailers letting customers know that there is no way to adjust voltage without spending an additional $50.00 + tax and shipping. 
 
I know some may take my comments negatively, but if you just spent $1300.00 in GPU's and were not made aware of the inability to adjust voltages to do what these cards were meant to do you would also be upset. 
 
Lastly, if software is not in the near, near future, registred users of the Classy's should be given a substantial discount on the evBot.  Misleading the consumer and not advising them that software that drives the cards for voltage changes is not available is very dishonest and is poor business practice.  Again, I love the brand, I have never had an issue with any evga product and the customer service is top notch.  Don't let this drive me to another brand of GPU.

 

hawk269

EVGA_JacobF

To update it, currently yes.

We are trying to see if there is a way to update it VIA NVAPI, otherwise if you have an EVBot and need it updated, contact me at jacobf@evga.com, or if you are planning on buying one, also contact me.

Jacob-

You and eVGA must understand the consumers point of view on this issue of no software being able to adjust the cards and now to here that you have to have a eVGA MB to update the evBot leaves one with no options...other than spend another $50.00 plus shipping and whatever is the fix.   Some of us have spent alot of money on these cards, especially when you buy 1 or more.

I really hope you guys/company have a way to take care of the consumer that spent the money with you guys.  Although I want an evBot, I should not have to spend even more money to do something that card was designed for. 

I have 6 registered GPU's with eVGA over the last year including the 2 Classys.  So it's not like I am a one time customer (this does not inlcude the 4 GPU's I had friends buy from you guys as well). 

At this point it is only fair that we are told when the software will come out, even a rough eta.  If it is going to be a while, I think I might send my cards back because I only have 30 (28 days now) to decide if I want to keep them and if I have no way to see what they can do in my configuration, what is the point of having them when "other" brands have software that works when you buy the cards.

Yes, I am upset, yes I am dissatisfied with the fact that we were not told any of this until "AFTER" most of us bought our cards.  A "warning" message should be posted on the product page and at the etailers letting customers know that there is no way to adjust voltage without spending an additional $50.00 + tax and shipping. 

I know some may take my comments negatively, but if you just spent $1300.00 in GPU's and were not made aware of the inability to adjust voltages to do what these cards were meant to do you would also be upset. 

Lastly, if software is not in the near, near future, registred users of the Classy's should be given a substantial discount on the evBot.  Misleading the consumer and not advising them that software that drives the cards for voltage changes is not available is very dishonest and is poor business practice.  Again, I love the brand, I have never had an issue with any evga product and the customer service is top notch.  Don't let this drive me to another brand of GPU.

We'll get you guys squared away with software voltage adjustments soon, were working on it now. For sure this wont be an issue in the future with other products. No one is trying to deceive anyone here man. We just set out to design our own 580 design for ALL EVGA users to enjoy. Software voltage control is coming very soon and we are working on it now as a priority. In the meantime, don't worry be happy :)
I love the brand too, and have been committed to it for some time now. Thanx for your kind words at the end there, stay on the team man!

Great work k|ngp|n.  I'm locked into this thread to see what you can do with these on H2O.  Will you use chilled water or just rad & fan with ambient air?.......or both?
 
Valuable info for the community, thanks for being so involved.  Thanks to TiN too for the informative posts.

Jacob-

You and eVGA must understand the consumers point of view on this issue of no software being able to adjust the cards and now to here that you have to have a eVGA MB to update the evBot leaves one with no options...other than spend another $50.00 plus shipping and whatever is the fix.   Some of us have spent alot of money on these cards, especially when you buy 1 or more.

I really hope you guys/company have a way to take care of the consumer that spent the money with you guys.  Although I want an evBot, I should not have to spend even more money to do something that card was designed for. 

I have 6 registered GPU's with eVGA over the last year including the 2 Classys.  So it's not like I am a one time customer (this does not inlcude the 4 GPU's I had friends buy from you guys as well). 

At this point it is only fair that we are told when the software will come out, even a rough eta.  If it is going to be a while, I think I might send my cards back because I only have 30 (28 days now) to decide if I want to keep them and if I have no way to see what they can do in my configuration, what is the point of having them when "other" brands have software that works when you buy the cards.

Yes, I am upset, yes I am dissatisfied with the fact that we were not told any of this until "AFTER" most of us bought our cards.  A "warning" message should be posted on the product page and at the etailers letting customers know that there is no way to adjust voltage without spending an additional $50.00 + tax and shipping. 

I know some may take my comments negatively, but if you just spent $1300.00 in GPU's and were not made aware of the inability to adjust voltages to do what these cards were meant to do you would also be upset. 

Lastly, if software is not in the near, near future, registred users of the Classy's should be given a substantial discount on the evBot.  Misleading the consumer and not advising them that software that drives the cards for voltage changes is not available is very dishonest and is poor business practice.  Again, I love the brand, I have never had an issue with any evga product and the customer service is top notch.  Don't let this drive me to another brand of GPU.

 
Trust me I completely understand your POV, regarding the software update it is #1 priority right now. I am checking with the dev and I will try to get some sort of ETA.

I have to give a warning in this thread for language. I have had to edit a couple of posts. We do not accept swearing in the forums even if you disguise it or it is filtered out.

Hawk,
 
Hmmm I didn't know you have to run these test a few times to check for stability, most i've run for 3DMark11 is three times at stock.  I don't game much and only recently built this system for Swtor/Guildwar2/Diablo3 and to run them at Max settings.  I only bought the 2 GTX 580 class because heck its only a few dollars more then the reg 580 3g, and imo looks nicer in my rig especially with the classified logo.  I guess, things will be different once we can change the voltage.

Or just let them fold for a while and a bad OC should show itself fairly quickly...

Jacob and Evga are fixing my evbot problem

What do you think? The newest card and it's limited. Nope!!!
Your three cards are more than enough for anything you throw at it!

dhruvdas2000

no step up program to upgrade to these guys from GTX 580 hydro coppers..huh?

 
The real question is why?, why would you want to upgrade to these cards, at most you'd maybe get 25-50mhz more on the core, given you get the same quality of cards you got now, and you give in 100watts more power.

jdookie

Overclocker

Been directed to this thread.. 

Asus and Gigabyte both advertised that their (I can say) specially designed cards for overclocking (580 Matrix Platinum , Gtx580 SOC) are binned with a better core to carry the ability to overclock better, produce less heat and perform better than vanilla 580s.  

So, just a point of interest, seeing that the new Evga Gtx580 Classified has just been released, are they specially binned like how Asus and Gigabyte did to improve overclocking? I mean, since its made for extreme overclockers, surely more has been done apart from slapping on a much better VRM and other features?  

The reason I am asking this, is because me myself owe 3 Gtx580 FTW HC2 (1.5GB) from Evga. I am only able to bench at around 930-940mhz @ 1.15v(thats the max Afterburner can increase right?), 950mhz will make Vantage crash.  I understand that I shouldn't be expecting a big overclock (say 1Ghz), but I highly doubt that the chips on the HC2 were binned in the first place due to that fact that they were quite voltage hungry and in fact, sometimes, I get a better score with 920mhz.  

I hope Jacob or maybe Kingpin or TiN can give me an answer so that I actually have a proper reason to make an upgrade. I am a keen overclocker and am willing to get the Classys for a higher clock in a SLI rig.  

I'll post my rig if anyone is interested 

CHEERS!! 

It was mentioned in the past (can't remember who said it) that the Classified gpu's are not binned, which is exactly why you're going to see some people get high oc's while others can't. If this is incorrect, I would hope that someone from EVGA would comment about it, but it is my understanding that what you're buying with the Classified card is all the upgraded components, other than the gpu.

In the end, you can have the greatest pcb components available but if you have bad luck, and get a bum gpu, then you'll never see the advantage of those other upgraded components.

In my opinion, if *I* were looking for a non-reference 580 "super card", I think I'd be leaning toward the Asus 580 Matrix Platinum. Asus has been VERY open about how they are binning chips specifically for that card. This is very hard for me to say because I've been a die hard EVGA fan for quite some time now. I just find the most recent "Classified" releases to be underwhelming to say the least. The one area that EVGA still beats them on is the vram. I think the Classified 580 is the only variant that offers 3GB's of vram.

 
If this is the case then I'd disappointed too, the zotac's I have are also binned, and I got 2 of them for $860, the fact that they can clock up to 950/4300 @ 1.15v (atleast for 3d mark 11 and vantage) and a $700 hc2 cant kind of sucks. If evga starts binning their cards, that would be awesome, but I wonder, why aren't they doing it already.

3Dmark 11 anyone? :D
Preview of monster LN2 SR-2 Rig using my new solid copper black nickel F1 Dark pots on cpus and quad Teks on classy 580's..

Does this mean another livestream coming soon?