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2021/07/02 14:40:07 (permalink)
Hi,
 
the RTX 3080 FTW3 needs three 8-Pin connectors.
 
What happens if only two 8 Pins are connected?
 
As my mini-itx system is transitory, waiting for Alderlake and the new ATX12VO standard, I reluctantly want to buy another PSU. 
So will this card work with SF600 at all?
I would be happy to run the card at low demands (underclocking) just to get it work temporarily until Alderlake arrives. 
 
I've found this thread:
https://forums.evga.com/P...irements-m3102667.aspx
 "I watched a youtube video of a SFF builder who was using corsairs SF600 and it was fine.  This was with a 3080 though." 
 
Found it, but there is no explanation how he connected the SF600 to a RTX3080, maybe this card is only the 2 connector version: 
 
600W SFX Power Supplies vs. RTX 3080 – Surprising Results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdohv96uGLw
 
 
So will the card work with two 8-Pin connectors?  Or  maybe something like a split adaptor?
 
Corsair SF600 looks like this:
 

 
 
Mandatory is 750 W. If there is no other way, will a Corsair SF750 be sufficient?
 

 
 https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
 
 
 
 
 
Any help will be highly appreciated.
 
 
 
post edited by Max Silencio - 2021/07/10 08:22:24

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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 04:32:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Max Silencio 2021/07/03 04:55:51
I was able to run a 9900K and 2080 Ti with an OC for a while on a 650W Gold PSU from eVGA but I was cutting it close. If you have another PSU to try (set it up outside the case but plugged in just long enough to get the numbers) with a Kill A Watt plugged in you can get the total power for the system and can underclock/undervolt until you get under 600 Watts. As far as the 2 x 8-Pins instead of 3 you can do this, just use an 8-Pin Splitter to connect the 3rd plug and make sure your PSU is up to the task. Looking around it looks like your CPU eats about 165 Watts max stock and 185 Watts with a good OC* which leaves 415 Watts for the rest of the system...I upgraded my 2080 Ti to a 3080 but I also upgraded to a eVGA SuperNova 1000 T2 at the same time since my efficiency was terrible according to my UPS but my 3080 (OC'ed) was around 400W (Similar Results can be seen online for games** and for synthetic benchmarks***) (Higher once I installed the 450 XOC BIOS) which would only leave you 15 Watts for everything else lol...this is obviously not enough BUT with the stock BIOS and clocks you'll likely see around 350-375 Watts of usage in games and if you drop your power limit to around 80% You should hover around 300W peak which should work for now until you upgrade your system. I'd just make sure your CPU is stock speeds and MCE (Multi-Core Enhancement, may be called something else on your mobo) is disabled then drop the power level on the card and run Furmark or Kombustor to test (Power use will be higher than in games) while running a CPU-Z stress test with threads set to 2 less than the total in your system so it can still run Furmark or Kombustor while stressing the CPU. This will show you the max possible real-world power usage. Let me know your full specs and maybe I can help with more info. If you do have a better PSU just to test externally a Kill A Watt can be found on Amazon pretty cheap...the link is the one I own and it works great. For what it's worth the 750W model you mentioned would 100% be just fine if you're not OC'ing if that's an option.
 
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System Specifications:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify
RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident RGB PC4000 16-16-16-36
GPU: eVGA RTX 3090 K|ngp|n Hybrid W/ 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fans  (Undervolted, No OC Yet)
Case: Corsair 4000D W/ a 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fan in the Only Spot Without a Radiator
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Boot) + Samsung 970 Evo 1TB x 2 (RAID-0) + 8TB RAID-1 NAS Drive x 2 (RAID-1) + PERC H730 W/ Toshiba PX04SMB160 1.6TB Enterprise SSD x 2 (RAID-0)
PSU: EVGA - 1000 T2 Modular PSU
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 05:24:38 (permalink)
Thank you for you very detailed answer and your kind offer.
The hint with the PCIE 8 Pin to Dual 8 (6+2) Pin-adaptor is fine. Would be great if a EVGA Tech could confirm the use of that splitter. I'm not sure. 
 
My i7-7700K is delidded and my whole system incl. 1080Ti just consumes about 180W while gaming @75FPS max.
Actually I prefer the 3080 XC3 over the FTW3 but this card is very rare to get here. Smaller, lighter, more compact, more puristic (not to mention the red design flaw) and only 2 connectors.  
 
I've seen this wattage graphs. So exactly 200 Watt plus is the price. 
 
Besides I've some 1000W+ PSUs in the basement but they don't fit into my mini-itx. 
 
I've made up my mind already and will go the easy under-clocking route for SF750. 
 
Waiting for my RTX3080 FTW3 which hopefully will not be canceled and arrives next week. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 06:08:48 (permalink)
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Thank you for you very detailed answer and your kind offer.
The hint with the PCIE 8 Pin to Dual 8 (6+2) Pin-adaptor is fine. Would be great if a EVGA Tech could confirm the use of that splitter. I'm not sure. 
 
My i7-7700K is delidded and my whole system incl. 1080Ti just consumes about 180W while gaming @75FPS max.
Actually I prefer the 3080 XC3 over the FTW3 but this card is very rare to get here. Smaller, lighter, more compact, more puristic (not to mention the red design flaw) and only 2 connectors.  
 
I've seen this wattage graphs. So exactly 200 Watt plus is the price. 
 
Besides I've some 1000W+ PSUs in the basement but they don't fit into my mini-itx. 
 
I've made up my mind already and will go the easy under-clocking route for SF750. 
 
Waiting for my RTX3080 FTW3 which hopefully will not be canceled and arrives next week. 

Gotcha, I think if you use the 750 you'll be fine even with mild OC'ing...I only hit 700W on my system in my signature now with a light OC and it's a power hog. As far as the splitter you'd need to ask the PSU manufacturer most likely, the reason they don't recommend them is because many PSU's split power between rails (so each cable has separate power allocated) so using everything on 1 cable won't allow you to use your full power potential but since you lack additional plugs then a splitter is your only option in that case. Many PSU's even come with "pigtail" setups* instead of single-end cables where each PCIE power cable comes with 2 connectors to daisy chain them and I've used these up to a 3070 Ti in systems where there were no other option and it worked fine. The worst case scenario is the system shuts down, the card doesn't get enough power and downclocks, or the system won't boot...insufficient power won't kill the card or anything. There's a discussion I saw about this recently here (Thread titled "is it safe to split a 8pin PCIe into 2 8pin PCIe?") if you're interested. Also, as far as the bigger PSU's not fitting in your case I expected that, I was just recommending you run the cables for them into the case (with the PSU outside the case as shown below**) and start the system long enough to measure your power consumption, then if it's under 600W you can swap to that PSU instead if you're worried about overloading that PSU. In any case, glad I was able to provide some help and let me know if I can help with anything else...good luck!
 
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System Specifications:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify
RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident RGB PC4000 16-16-16-36
GPU: eVGA RTX 3090 K|ngp|n Hybrid W/ 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fans  (Undervolted, No OC Yet)
Case: Corsair 4000D W/ a 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fan in the Only Spot Without a Radiator
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Boot) + Samsung 970 Evo 1TB x 2 (RAID-0) + 8TB RAID-1 NAS Drive x 2 (RAID-1) + PERC H730 W/ Toshiba PX04SMB160 1.6TB Enterprise SSD x 2 (RAID-0)
PSU: EVGA - 1000 T2 Modular PSU
Display(s): Acer - Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor +TCL 55S405 55" 4K HDR Display (Gaming Mode) + Samsung 27" Display (1080p60 Trash lol)
Cooling: Liquid Freezer II 280mm W/ 140mm Noctua iPPC 3000 RPM PWM Industrial Fans
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 06:15:36 (permalink)
I still wonder as the difference between 3080FTW and 3080XC3 among others is the power draw if it's possible to re-model a FTW to XC3 via powerlimit. 
Maybe down-modding the FTW this way two 8-Pin cables are sufficient. 
 

  


 
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 07:53:36 (permalink)
https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-FTW3-Ultra-PSU-Question-m3137389.aspx
https://forums.evga.com/R...Question-m3137389.aspx
 
"You need a new PSU.
 
Corsair says there are problems with that PSU and the RTX 3080 and 3090's.
 
That comes right from Corsair."
 
sigh...
 
That is getting more and more weird. I just wanted a new video card not a completely new life style.
 
So Corsair SF750 is really not working with EVGA 3080?
 
What SFX PSU is actually working with this diva?
 

 

  


 
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/03 16:29:25 (permalink)
Max Silencio
https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-FTW3-Ultra-PSU-Question-m3137389.aspx
https://forums.evga.com/R...Question-m3137389.aspx
 
"You need a new PSU.

Corsair says there are problems with that PSU and the RTX 3080 and 3090's.

That comes right from Corsair."
 
sigh...
 
That is getting more and more weird. I just wanted a new video card not a completely new life style.
 
So Corsair SF750 is really not working with EVGA 3080?
 
What SFX PSU is actually working with this diva?

I mean if you're getting a new PSU the eVGA SuperNova 850 Watt Gold is pretty great...should be plenty of power and it varies from $150-200.

System Specifications:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify
RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident RGB PC4000 16-16-16-36
GPU: eVGA RTX 3090 K|ngp|n Hybrid W/ 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fans  (Undervolted, No OC Yet)
Case: Corsair 4000D W/ a 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fan in the Only Spot Without a Radiator
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Boot) + Samsung 970 Evo 1TB x 2 (RAID-0) + 8TB RAID-1 NAS Drive x 2 (RAID-1) + PERC H730 W/ Toshiba PX04SMB160 1.6TB Enterprise SSD x 2 (RAID-0)
PSU: EVGA - 1000 T2 Modular PSU
Display(s): Acer - Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor +TCL 55S405 55" 4K HDR Display (Gaming Mode) + Samsung 27" Display (1080p60 Trash lol)
Cooling: Liquid Freezer II 280mm W/ 140mm Noctua iPPC 3000 RPM PWM Industrial Fans
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/10 08:18:30 (permalink)
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Sorry for the delay. Nice cat (maybe needs a little run ) and nice case with this handle. Besides the EVGA Supernova is not available at the moment. 
 
Everything's working fine so far. I've installed the SF750 and my EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra is just in the box and running.  
 
 
 
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/10 08:23:18 (permalink)
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Sorry for the delay. Nice cat (maybe needs a little run ) and nice case with this handle. Besides the EVGA Supernova is not available at the moment. 
 
Everything working fine so far. I've installed the SF750 and my EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra is just in the box and running.  
 
 
 


That's good news! Anyway, the SuperNova shows in stock for me right now and there's always Amazon and Newegg if you need an alternative. Not sure why it wouldn't show as in stock for you.

System Specifications:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify
RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident RGB PC4000 16-16-16-36
GPU: eVGA RTX 3090 K|ngp|n Hybrid W/ 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fans  (Undervolted, No OC Yet)
Case: Corsair 4000D W/ a 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 RPM Industrial Fan in the Only Spot Without a Radiator
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Boot) + Samsung 970 Evo 1TB x 2 (RAID-0) + 8TB RAID-1 NAS Drive x 2 (RAID-1) + PERC H730 W/ Toshiba PX04SMB160 1.6TB Enterprise SSD x 2 (RAID-0)
PSU: EVGA - 1000 T2 Modular PSU
Display(s): Acer - Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor +TCL 55S405 55" 4K HDR Display (Gaming Mode) + Samsung 27" Display (1080p60 Trash lol)
Cooling: Liquid Freezer II 280mm W/ 140mm Noctua iPPC 3000 RPM PWM Industrial Fans
Keyboard: Corsair K68 RGB (Cherry MX Red)
Mouse: Cooler Master MM720
Sound: Logitech G Series G935
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Re: 3080 FTW3: What SFX PSU will work? 2x 8 Pins instead of 3x 8 Pins possible? 2021/07/10 08:26:08 (permalink)
Maybe another continent ...

  


 
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